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The red helmet is a cool idea but it probably won’t match the red jersey since the helmet seems to be chrome. The H helmet is gross and pointless. The rest is maybe a slight upgrade on what they previously had.

He’s not really a converted QB. He filled in at QB for one year and was mostly just running wildcat. McConkey also played QB his senior year and threw for 20 TDs as well as 10 rushing. Luke McCaffrey and Isaiah Williams are legitimately converted QBs and Adonai Mitchell dabbled with it a little in high school as well.

I think the vision would be for him would be to play as both the Z and the slot depending on the situation. The trickier part is that’s probably the plan for Samuel. If we plan on rotating WRs a lot they can all play but we don’t have anyone that projects as an X right now besides Shorter who I am not willing to assume will ever make an impact for us.

I don’t really know what to make of that either to be honest. You put on the tape and Thomas plays hard and has no issue shedding press coverage, making downfield blocks, all the high effort stuff. Worthy doesn’t do any of that but he’s more talkative so he’s the one with an edge to him? That sounds like a bad thing to me. Again, I always enjoy reading these confidentials; just confused by some of it every year where I see basically the opposite of what they see.

I feel like the Thomas notes were just a mixed bag. A lot of complimentary stuff and a lot of concerns too. Feels like that’s kind of the case with everyone beyond the top 3. The mentality stuff with Worthy is interesting. Mel Kiper echoed that too, saying he’s one of those guys that will play through injury and do whatever it takes to help the team win. That just doesn’t show up on the field IMO. His effort blocking is a joke and he has the same effort issues on his routes that Mitchell has. Feels like more bark than bite to me. Always a good read even if I sometimes feel like I’m watching different players from the guys they’re describing. Like the Nabers > Harrison stuff…at least these guys are going fairly in depth about why they feel that way. Same with the Daniels > Maye stuff even if I don’t see what they see.

I’d guess we trade up. I think somewhere in the 17-23 range is most likely so I voted for the earlier option of the two.

I probably wouldn’t take either at 28, but McConkey is an early 2nd type to me so he’s close. Legette is not IMO. The concern with McConkey (beyond the injury history) is I think he mostly gives us more of what we already have rather than giving us something new.

I don’t expect either to go in the first, but I’m guessing one or two of those teams that rely pretty heavily on analytics will have Franklin high up on their WR big board. I don’t think we are that team.

Currently 34.5 at the one I’m looking at.

They’re very bland and the white helmets are absolutely atrocious. Besides the white helmet, mostly inoffensive but just pretty boring.

We have a source off between Russini saying she hears Penix will go earlier than expected and Allbright saying the exact opposite

Adding on to this, his advanced metrics just aren’t very good and I think his tape at UNC was frankly very bad. He’s basically just a flier based on his physical tools but he’s nearly 23 years old which isn’t ideal for taking that sort of gamble. I think he’s a fine Day 3 pick but I’d be disappointed if we take him anywhere in the first 4 rounds or so.

McConkey’s YPRR this season against man was pedestrian (granted small sample size since he missed time), especially compared to his YPRR vs. zone where he was dominant. Matt Harmon has McConkey as #4 in the class vs. man coverage out of the 16 he’s charted now. I agree with the concerns about too many similar skillsets and particularly with none of them being a good fit at the X. For comparison’s sake, Harmon has Legette charted as the 16th out of 16 against man coverage (though I know his numbers on Tez Walker will be dead last once he publishes him on the website; he has Tez as I believe the worst he’s ever charted lol) and has Legette at the the bottom against press coverage too (McConkey is also at the bottom).

I agree there will be a big run. I think the pickings after a trade down will still be very good though and my guess is the guys I prefer will still be there.

I don’t think suddenness is a strength for him at all personally, nor is dealing with press coverage. Of the 13 WRs Matt Harmon has charted so far, the only two worse at dealing with press coverage are McConkey and Roman Wilson.

Assuming we're talking purely about their ability to win down the field, probably something like: Brian Thomas Jermaine Burton Javon Baker Troy Franklin Adonai Mitchell Worthy, Legette, Tez, and Coleman are in the discussion there too.

Hope you're right

Yeah, that's Penix. He definitely has some moments where he looks like an amazing passer, but for the most part, I think he's pretty mediocre. I know Ben Solak for example had him charted as the least precise of the perceived top 6 QBs in the draft. I think there's too many red flags there for my liking but he's a fine flier in the 3rd round if he makes it there. I think he's going to end up being my QB5 or QB6 depending on where I end up with Spencer Rattler.

There was nothing about character concerns in McMillan's bio in Dane Brugler's draft guide either and I feel like it would definitely be in there if that was out in the world. At any rate, I'm not a fan of his game anyways but that's interesting to hear.

I keep going back and forth on whether I think the optimal move is to trade up, trade WAY up, or stand pat. This feels like a really good outcome though. Two of my favorite WR prospects in the draft and a good safety prospect. I'll differ to others on how the other Day 3 picks are but if we came out of the draft with Brian Thomas and Javon Baker, I would be very pleased. Think there's been some rumors that he struggles to learn the playbook, but beyond that, not really sure. It seems like everyone in the draft community says he's underrated but if everyone says it, is he really underrated?

I can't explain all of it, but one thing I should mention is that %'s in general are higher against zone coverage. Harmon is basically tracking how often they get open against different coverage types and it's easier to get open against zone defense vs. when someone is actively trying to follow you everywhere. So with Burton for example, his success rate against man coverage was 75.0% vs. 78.6% against zone coverage. But the 75.0% against man is 3rd best while the 78.6% against zone is 3rd worst. That doesn't really explain why Nabers YPRR would be better than everyone against zone while his success rate vs. zone is behind most of them, but just providing some context. I'd guess the real explanation is that if Nabers scores an 80 yard TD against zone, that greatly impacts his YPRR but it only counts as one success against the zone coverage and doesn't count any more than beating zone coverage for a 2 yard gain would. Considering how explosive Nabers was, that would tend to help his YPRR a lot while not necessarily helping his success rates as much.

I think that may be at least in part what Samuel is for.

Jermaine Burton is next up for Matt Harmon...looks like his profile will be posted today or tomorrow. The data is pretty good though. 3rd best success rate against man in the draft class, though he is tied with Nabers for 3rd worst against zone. 3rd best against press coverage as well and I know his hands are considered to be very good. Says based purely on film and his data, Burton would be a 1st round pick. Maybe bumped down to early 2nd round based on his off-field issues.

In all likelihood, he'll be off the board by the time we pick anyways. Would be a nice addition to the secondary though; feels like a very McDermott pick.

Probably depends what those catches look like but I would lean towards yes.