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DCOrange

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  1. Legette, Junior Colson, and Kingsley Suamataia
  2. Think it was an ankle injury if I remember right and he pulled out after the second practice. This is a myth. He played WR basically his entire high school career.
  3. Tom Pelissero did mention him as one of the 4 guys to watch out for as a surprise 1st rounder.
  4. I’ve seen multiple people compare him to Antonio Brown. I can see it in terms of how they move but Brown was a rare undersized guy that had great ball skills in contested situations. I don’t see that with Ladd unfortunately.
  5. It would make me sad for multiple reasons: (1) because I want to see him given a decent landing spot to blossom and New England doesn’t seem to be that and (2) If they are able to build around him I think he’ll be a thorn in our side.
  6. I’m absolutely dreading watching them draft Maye
  7. I think Diggs was good enough to be great in the playoffs. He just didn’t play up to his normal level for one reason or another. I don’t expect McConkey to get to that level and certainly don’t expect him to be someone that beats press coverage consistently. But if we could get a Diggs level player at 28 I would take that in a heartbeat. I’d trade up into the top 10 if I had to. I don’t really see that potential for Legette either but he is at least strong enough that he could be an X WR with time.
  8. Love reading this post each year and seeing where you and I align and differ. I’ll probably try to come back and throw my abbreviated scouting reports in here when I get back home so we don’t clutter up the board with multiple QB breakdown posts. I think I have two more games of Rattler to get through before I’m done with the main scouting reports for the year and my guess at the moment is Rattler will end up ahead of a couple of these guys on my list but it could go either way still. I also have an even more abbreviated scouting report for Joe Milton and potentially will do Devin Leary and Jordan Travis if I have time. I think my current order for the guys I’ve scouted is: Maye Caleb JJ Nix Penix Daniels Pratt with 4-6 all being close to one another.
  9. If a Diggs ceiling isn’t good enough for you, nothing will be. If Diggs as his ceiling is actually accurate, with where his floor probably is right now, he’d easily be WR4 in this class and maybe higher than that.
  10. The red helmet is a cool idea but it probably won’t match the red jersey since the helmet seems to be chrome. The H helmet is gross and pointless. The rest is maybe a slight upgrade on what they previously had.
  11. He’s not really a converted QB. He filled in at QB for one year and was mostly just running wildcat. McConkey also played QB his senior year and threw for 20 TDs as well as 10 rushing. Luke McCaffrey and Isaiah Williams are legitimately converted QBs and Adonai Mitchell dabbled with it a little in high school as well.
  12. I think the vision would be for him would be to play as both the Z and the slot depending on the situation. The trickier part is that’s probably the plan for Samuel. If we plan on rotating WRs a lot they can all play but we don’t have anyone that projects as an X right now besides Shorter who I am not willing to assume will ever make an impact for us.
  13. I don’t really know what to make of that either to be honest. You put on the tape and Thomas plays hard and has no issue shedding press coverage, making downfield blocks, all the high effort stuff. Worthy doesn’t do any of that but he’s more talkative so he’s the one with an edge to him? That sounds like a bad thing to me. Again, I always enjoy reading these confidentials; just confused by some of it every year where I see basically the opposite of what they see.
  14. I feel like the Thomas notes were just a mixed bag. A lot of complimentary stuff and a lot of concerns too. Feels like that’s kind of the case with everyone beyond the top 3. The mentality stuff with Worthy is interesting. Mel Kiper echoed that too, saying he’s one of those guys that will play through injury and do whatever it takes to help the team win. That just doesn’t show up on the field IMO. His effort blocking is a joke and he has the same effort issues on his routes that Mitchell has. Feels like more bark than bite to me. Always a good read even if I sometimes feel like I’m watching different players from the guys they’re describing. Like the Nabers > Harrison stuff…at least these guys are going fairly in depth about why they feel that way. Same with the Daniels > Maye stuff even if I don’t see what they see.
  15. I’d guess we trade up. I think somewhere in the 17-23 range is most likely so I voted for the earlier option of the two.
  16. I probably wouldn’t take either at 28, but McConkey is an early 2nd type to me so he’s close. Legette is not IMO. The concern with McConkey (beyond the injury history) is I think he mostly gives us more of what we already have rather than giving us something new.
  17. I don’t expect either to go in the first, but I’m guessing one or two of those teams that rely pretty heavily on analytics will have Franklin high up on their WR big board. I don’t think we are that team.
  18. Currently 34.5 at the one I’m looking at.
  19. They’re very bland and the white helmets are absolutely atrocious. Besides the white helmet, mostly inoffensive but just pretty boring.
  20. We have a source off between Russini saying she hears Penix will go earlier than expected and Allbright saying the exact opposite
  21. Adding on to this, his advanced metrics just aren’t very good and I think his tape at UNC was frankly very bad. He’s basically just a flier based on his physical tools but he’s nearly 23 years old which isn’t ideal for taking that sort of gamble. I think he’s a fine Day 3 pick but I’d be disappointed if we take him anywhere in the first 4 rounds or so.
  22. McConkey’s YPRR this season against man was pedestrian (granted small sample size since he missed time), especially compared to his YPRR vs. zone where he was dominant. Matt Harmon has McConkey as #4 in the class vs. man coverage out of the 16 he’s charted now. I agree with the concerns about too many similar skillsets and particularly with none of them being a good fit at the X. For comparison’s sake, Harmon has Legette charted as the 16th out of 16 against man coverage (though I know his numbers on Tez Walker will be dead last once he publishes him on the website; he has Tez as I believe the worst he’s ever charted lol) and has Legette at the the bottom against press coverage too (McConkey is also at the bottom).
  23. I agree there will be a big run. I think the pickings after a trade down will still be very good though and my guess is the guys I prefer will still be there.
  24. I don’t think suddenness is a strength for him at all personally, nor is dealing with press coverage. Of the 13 WRs Matt Harmon has charted so far, the only two worse at dealing with press coverage are McConkey and Roman Wilson.
  25. Assuming we're talking purely about their ability to win down the field, probably something like: Brian Thomas Jermaine Burton Javon Baker Troy Franklin Adonai Mitchell Worthy, Legette, Tez, and Coleman are in the discussion there too.
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