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DCOrange

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  1. My personal order of those guys pre-draft was: Franklin McConkey Pearsall Mitchell Legette Worthy With a significant gap from Pearsall to Mitchell and an even more significant gap from Mitchell to Legette/Worthy.
  2. I'd be surprised if it doesn't cost at least #33 for Aiyuk but we'll see. He'd be the most exciting of those three vets for sure.
  3. Yeah, something like that would be fine to me. Really curious what SF ultimately gets for Deebo if he's the guy though. Feel like it'll less than people think.
  4. He's 6'2". But yes, he was the consensus #5 WR in the class. If we take him at #33, many in the media will immediately look at Beane as a genius for maneuvering to acquire better picks while still getting a guy that many of the media members believes can be a special player. Personally, I'm not as high on him and there's a handful of WRs available now that I'd take ahead of him, but I do have a 2nd round grade on him.
  5. Still remaining from my big board at the beginning of the night for options I'd like: Insert OLine Here (probably just JPJ at this point) Cooper DeJean Jer'Zhan Newton Kool Aid McKinstry Troy Franklin Keon Coleman For those focused on WRs, my personal board: MHJ Nabers Odunze Thomas Keon Coleman Troy Franklin Jacob Cowing Ladd McConkey Javon Baker Ricky Pearsall Ja'Lynn Polk Adonai Mitchell Brenden Rice Roman Wilson Jermaine Burton Malachi Corley Xavier Legette Xavier Worthy Isaiah Williams Jamari Thrash Anthony Gould Devontez Walker Jalen McMillan The top 15 all had 2nd round or better grades, so long story short, plenty of options still available tomorrow. Among those top 15, I don't think Cowing and Wilson make much sense for us, though Wilson in particular has the type of DNA I think Beane would love.
  6. Just be forewarned, don't look at AD Mitchell's if he ends up being our pick tomorrow lol.
  7. As much as I adore Deebo, he doesn't make much sense for us. If we go the veteran route and Aiyuk is off the table, Higgins or Sutton make more sense than Deebo IMO. Probably wouldn't trade what Cinci wants for Higgins though. I think the cost for Sutton is probably a good match for what we have now and then I'd like to add a rookie WR tomorrow.
  8. Options at #33 for those that are purely focused on WR: Adonai Mitchell (majority believes he's the #4 or #5 WR in the draft even if I personally do not) My personal #5 through #9 WRs (granted one of them is Cowing who is simply not a fit for the role we need to fill) Brandon Aiyuk? #33 is roughly what the projected cost would be to acquire him and SF did just draft a WR at 31. We made some significant moves up the board while still having a guy available that most people preferred over Worthy/Legette anyways and several options that I personally prefer and that's just at WR.
  9. https://x.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1783699035196629044
  10. DB or trade down would be my choice but we'll see what Beane thinks.
  11. If his WRs could catch he would have had 35-40 TDs last year while his shoulder was *****
  12. What about on the pass plays where they're part of the progression?
  13. We already have Samuel, Shakir, and even Kincaid for the screens IMO. Worthy would give us a deep threat that we're currently lacking for sure. Not a fan of him as a prospect personally but in a perfect world, he'll be very dangerous down the field.
  14. 1-5 and 17 on my Bills board are now off the board, but 6-16 are still there: Quinyon Mitchell Terrion Arnold Brian Thomas Jr. Insert OL Here Verse DeJean Chop Newton McKinstry Franklin Coleman
  15. When Beane trades up for one of these corners, the message board is going to be ELECTRIC
  16. My rough big board for the Bills would be: MHJ Nabers Odunze Bowers Turner Quinyon Mitchell Arnold Brian Thomas Jr. Insert O-Line Here Verse DeJean Chop McKinstry Newton Franklin Coleman Latu
  17. Heard the same about Nabers as well
  18. Don’t agree with the placement of everyone here but pretty much all of it makes sense with your philosophy. Fun read!
  19. I think the Diggs comp someone else made is too strong for my blood. Could definitely see him being a Tyler Lockett type, who had a few seasons where he was a borderline top 10-12 guy.
  20. Okay, following up with some notes on this year's crop but if people want to check out the actual website: https://draftqbs.wordpress.com/2024-draft/overall-grades/. This link will take you to the overall page for the 2024 class but there's a drop down in the top right to open each of their profiles. Drake Maye - 91 (Top 5 pick) Caleb Williams - 86 (Top 10 pick) J.J. McCarthy - 79 (Early 2nd round pick) Bo Nix - 77 (Late 2nd/Early 3rd) Jayden Daniels - 76 (3rd round) Michael Penix Jr. - 75 (Late 3rd) Spencer Rattler - 73 (4th round) Michael Pratt - 70 (Late 5th) Joe Milton III - 66 (7th round) Drake Maye The prototype everyone thinks of when creating a QB. Size, arm strength, and athleticism is all there in spades. Oozes arm talent, with the velocity and willingness to make tight window throws, the touch to take something off when needed, and the flexibility to accurately deliver passes even when he doesn't have a clean base to throw from. Uses pump fakes and his eyes to manipulate coverage, diagnoses pressure pre-snap, and throws with anticipation on intermediate and deep passes to really put a lot of pressure on the defense. Costs himself time with various technical issues: some slow dropbacks, patting the ball before throwing, having a slightly elongated release, and general hesitancies in the short game. Footwork has room for improvement and currently costs him some of his consistency as a passer. Too willing to test tight windows sometimes. Caleb Williams Doesn't have the same size as Maye, but his physical tools are out of this world. Flexible arm to throw from various angles and comfort throwing from awkward platforms, off the wrong foot, etc. Not the fastest QB around but he's as elusive as they come both in and out of the pocket. Has that playmaker gene that is so in-vogue right now. Arm talent is ridiculous but ball placement can be a bit spotty. Pre-snap reads leave a lot to be desired. Inconsistent reads in the read option game. Simply improvises far too much right now. J.J. McCarthy Just turned 21, youngest passer in the class. Good athlete. Good vision and contact balance as a runner despite relatively small size; think he could have been utilized in the run game more than he was at Michigan. Pretty good timing as a passer, especially on deep passes. Keeps his eyes up when he rolls out. Every pass is thrown on a rope; almost zero flashes of throwing with touch. When he misses, he tends to sail it over the receiver's head. Bo Nix Good athlete and knows how to protect his body. Accurate 20 yards and shorter. Takes good care of the ball. Doesn't use his legs enough to generate power behind his throws. Oregon system makes it difficult to evaluate him due to the ridiculous number of quick hitters. Infamously terrible dealing with pressure at Auburn but got the ball out so quickly at Oregon we didn't really get to see if he's improved when under duress. 24 years old already. Jayden Daniels As close to Lamar as it gets in terms of running in the open field. Nowhere near as good in traffic as Lamar. Works side to side in his progressions more than most in this class and gets the ball out on time. Throws with good timing and placement on curl routes, slot fades, and squatters against zone coverage. Historically bad in terms of pressure to sack ratio and responds to pressure terribly. Does not keep his eyes up when on the move. Does not protect his body on the move. Often misses behind the target on horizontal routes. Tends to leave deep ball short and force his WRs to box out/contort their bodies to catch the ball. Will turn 24 as a rookie. His center did a terrible job snapping the ball. Michael Penix Jr. Maybe best in the class in terms of getting through progressions. Manipulates coverage with his eyes, huge hands to really sell his pump fakes, etc. Best in class in terms of pressure to sack ratio; mostly from knowing where his check downs are (though there are issues here still). Good placement on deep throws, out routes, and curls. Lots of passes batted at the line due to low release angle. A sitting duck inside the pocket. Shies away from contact/would rather throw it up for grabs than take a sack. Accuracy under pressure falls off a cliff. More area accuracy rather than pinpoint. Turns 24 in a couple weeks. Spencer Rattler In terms of size and physical tools, he's fairly similar to Caleb Williams. Can throw the heater as well as the changeup when needed. Playmaker's mentality, both the good and the bad. Not as athletic as he thinks he is; scrambles very often but isn't able to get away from pass rushers. Not as strong as he thinks he is; often thinks he has the arm to throw off his backfoot/while backpedaling and leaves the ball hanging in the air. Constantly late on reads and gives DBs a chance to recover. Struggles to recognize blitzers. Tends to get stuck on his primary read. Will turn 24 early in his rookie season. Michael Pratt Experienced, calls protections at the line, throws with touch. Mediocre arm and mobility, spotty ball placement, limited ceiling. Needs everything around him to be perfect to succeed. Joe Milton III Cannon for an arm. Might have been a worthy developmental project if he were younger. Horrendous accuracy; strong candidate for a position change in the NFL.
  21. Yes after playing WR every other year. It’s not like Luke McCaffrey where he was actually a QB and transitioned to WR in college.
  22. Yeah it’s entirely possible they just felt good enough with how day 2 went and didn’t want him to mess anything up from there but we’ll never know for sure.
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