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DCOrange

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  1. Currently 34.5 at the one I’m looking at.
  2. They’re very bland and the white helmets are absolutely atrocious. Besides the white helmet, mostly inoffensive but just pretty boring.
  3. We have a source off between Russini saying she hears Penix will go earlier than expected and Allbright saying the exact opposite
  4. Adding on to this, his advanced metrics just aren’t very good and I think his tape at UNC was frankly very bad. He’s basically just a flier based on his physical tools but he’s nearly 23 years old which isn’t ideal for taking that sort of gamble. I think he’s a fine Day 3 pick but I’d be disappointed if we take him anywhere in the first 4 rounds or so.
  5. McConkey’s YPRR this season against man was pedestrian (granted small sample size since he missed time), especially compared to his YPRR vs. zone where he was dominant. Matt Harmon has McConkey as #4 in the class vs. man coverage out of the 16 he’s charted now. I agree with the concerns about too many similar skillsets and particularly with none of them being a good fit at the X. For comparison’s sake, Harmon has Legette charted as the 16th out of 16 against man coverage (though I know his numbers on Tez Walker will be dead last once he publishes him on the website; he has Tez as I believe the worst he’s ever charted lol) and has Legette at the the bottom against press coverage too (McConkey is also at the bottom).
  6. I agree there will be a big run. I think the pickings after a trade down will still be very good though and my guess is the guys I prefer will still be there.
  7. I don’t think suddenness is a strength for him at all personally, nor is dealing with press coverage. Of the 13 WRs Matt Harmon has charted so far, the only two worse at dealing with press coverage are McConkey and Roman Wilson.
  8. Assuming we're talking purely about their ability to win down the field, probably something like: Brian Thomas Jermaine Burton Javon Baker Troy Franklin Adonai Mitchell Worthy, Legette, Tez, and Coleman are in the discussion there too.
  9. Hope you're right
  10. Yeah, that's Penix. He definitely has some moments where he looks like an amazing passer, but for the most part, I think he's pretty mediocre. I know Ben Solak for example had him charted as the least precise of the perceived top 6 QBs in the draft. I think there's too many red flags there for my liking but he's a fine flier in the 3rd round if he makes it there. I think he's going to end up being my QB5 or QB6 depending on where I end up with Spencer Rattler.
  11. There was nothing about character concerns in McMillan's bio in Dane Brugler's draft guide either and I feel like it would definitely be in there if that was out in the world. At any rate, I'm not a fan of his game anyways but that's interesting to hear.
  12. I keep going back and forth on whether I think the optimal move is to trade up, trade WAY up, or stand pat. This feels like a really good outcome though. Two of my favorite WR prospects in the draft and a good safety prospect. I'll differ to others on how the other Day 3 picks are but if we came out of the draft with Brian Thomas and Javon Baker, I would be very pleased. Think there's been some rumors that he struggles to learn the playbook, but beyond that, not really sure. It seems like everyone in the draft community says he's underrated but if everyone says it, is he really underrated?
  13. I can't explain all of it, but one thing I should mention is that %'s in general are higher against zone coverage. Harmon is basically tracking how often they get open against different coverage types and it's easier to get open against zone defense vs. when someone is actively trying to follow you everywhere. So with Burton for example, his success rate against man coverage was 75.0% vs. 78.6% against zone coverage. But the 75.0% against man is 3rd best while the 78.6% against zone is 3rd worst. That doesn't really explain why Nabers YPRR would be better than everyone against zone while his success rate vs. zone is behind most of them, but just providing some context. I'd guess the real explanation is that if Nabers scores an 80 yard TD against zone, that greatly impacts his YPRR but it only counts as one success against the zone coverage and doesn't count any more than beating zone coverage for a 2 yard gain would. Considering how explosive Nabers was, that would tend to help his YPRR a lot while not necessarily helping his success rates as much.
  14. I think that may be at least in part what Samuel is for.
  15. Jermaine Burton is next up for Matt Harmon...looks like his profile will be posted today or tomorrow. The data is pretty good though. 3rd best success rate against man in the draft class, though he is tied with Nabers for 3rd worst against zone. 3rd best against press coverage as well and I know his hands are considered to be very good. Says based purely on film and his data, Burton would be a 1st round pick. Maybe bumped down to early 2nd round based on his off-field issues.
  16. In all likelihood, he'll be off the board by the time we pick anyways. Would be a nice addition to the secondary though; feels like a very McDermott pick.
  17. Probably depends what those catches look like but I would lean towards yes.
  18. FWIW, Benjamin Allbright is saying Seattle is basically a lock to take Troy Fautanu at #16.
  19. Profiles for Franklin and Xavier Legette were posted today. Updated rankings: MHJ - #1 out of 63 he's scouted since 2021, Top 10 pick Rome Odunze - #3, Top 10 pick Malik Nabers - #8, Top 10 pick Brian Thomas Jr. - #12, Clear 1st rounder Ricky Pearsall - #17, Late 1st/Very early 2nd Ladd McConkey - #18, Late 1st/Very early 2nd Adonai Mitchell - #20, Late 1st/Very early 2nd Xavier Worthy - #25, Priority Round 2 Troy Franklin - #28, Priority Round 2 Keon Coleman - #33, Good Day 2 Option Xavier Legette - #34, Good Day 2 Option Roman Wilson - #50, Late 3rd/Early 4th Franklin 58th percentile vs. man 72nd percentile vs. zone 26th percentile vs. press Does a great job stacking DBs when working downfield and also does a great job breaking off his routes to come back to the ball on curls His poor results against press coverage point towards potentially being more of a flanker WR rather than an X at the next level Doesn't look comfortable working over the middle of the field "Difficult evaluation because he has some nuance to his route running and the type of foundation you want to build on, but the lack of play strength and his frame really haunt him". "I don't know how you watch Franklin play and not come away concerned that he doesn't trust his hands" His relatively good base of fundamentals and route running should make him much more valuable than more limited vertical types (such as Valdes-Scantling). If he can bulk up some without sacrificing his speed and flexibility, he could be really good. Legette 19th percentile vs. man 62nd percentile vs. zone 19th percentile vs. press Fits into the same bucket as Keon Coleman where Harmon believes he best projects as a big slot in the NFL Good timing working over the middle, finds windows in zone coverage and displayed the ability to keep those windows open as long as possible Transitions to run after the catch very well Raw route runner, struggles with isolated routes and "is not at a place in his development where he can win one-on-one His plan against press coverage is "wildly underdeveloped" "Hard not to be cautious when projecting an older prospect with this lack of seasoning" Stellar in contested catch situations and has good hands in general "If a coach wants to use Legette outside because of his physical gifts, the ceiling for this kind of guy is an Alshon Jeffery-type; a productive contested catch maven who has big seasons but is likely best as a complementary threat. Possibilities open up if he lands with a more creative coaching staff who has a vision for him beyond the X-receiver downfield combatant"
  20. I don't always agree with Thor, but he is at least willing to go against the grain with some of his takes. Also now the second person in two days to compare Troy Franklin to Marvin Mims.
  21. Certainly a smaller league, but he's basically the same size as Maliq Brown and probably a little stronger. I don't think we'll really want to play him at C but if McCleod and Patterson end up being hurt/non-factors, Davis will probably be asked to fill in.
  22. Davis is mostly PF. Can probably fill in a little at C or SF if needed. He was the starting C for Delaware last year.
  23. I believe Harmon will be publishing Troy Franklin's profile tomorrow. He just posted his metrics in his Discord chat. Basic gist of it: Average against man coverage (slightly ahead of Brian Thomas) Very good against zone coverage (slightly ahead of Ricky Pearsall) Bad against press coverage (a little better than Keon Coleman but a little worse than Xavier Worthy) His success rates on different route types suggest he's essentially only successful running vertical routes and curls One of the people in the Discord chat compared him to Marvin Mims coming out of Oklahoma, to which Harmon said it's not a bad comparison, but Franklin is a better route runner than Mims was. Going purely off of the data, my guess would be he lands around Xavier Worthy in the "Priority Round 2" tier (somewhere in the WR7-9 range).
  24. Jyare Davis to Syracuse is official. Gotta think Dakota Leffew will follow soon. In outgoing transfer news, Justin Taylor committed to James Madison and Maliq Brown is visiting (gulp) Duke.
  25. He showed at the Senior Bowl that he has the movement skills to run good routes IMO but in actual games it felt like by far his biggest strength was more just utilizing his speed on crossers, posts, etc.
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