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Dane Brugler is saying he's likely going top 15
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Feel like this second group ran the gauntlet much cleaner than the first group did.
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That's because some of the routes resulted in sacks or scrambles.
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Xavier Worthy with a 4.25 and I don't think anyone is super surprised lol
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Pearsall testing as one of the most athletic guys in the class is not something I expected either. He checked pretty much every box on film aside from the athleticism.
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Brian Thomas absolutely flying. Fastest 40 time of any WR so far.
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The only WRs in this year's class to run more routes this season were Rome Odunze and Ja'Lynn Polk. It's certainly not a lack of playing time. He just wasn't very productive. This doesn't just apply to him by the way; the same goes for Coleman, but Coleman isn't as nuanced a route runner or apparently as explosive an athlete as Mitchell is.
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He was 75% out wide two seasons ago and 79% this past season. He lined up out wide more often than Keon Coleman, Xavier Legette, Malik Nabers, and several other guys that nobody is questioning as a wideout. I do think taking his physical traits into account, it's not as clear that he can play outside as some of these other guys, but to pretend 75+% out wide isn't a high number is simply not true.
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7th best vert among the corners
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Some very high verts from the second group so far. Malik Washington - 42.5" Ricky Pearsall - 42" Xavier Worthy - 41" Tez Walker - 40.5" Rome Odunze - 39" Brian Thomas - 38.5" Isaiah Williams - 38" Johnny Wilson - 37" Broad jumps: Tez Walker - 11'2" Xavier Worthy - 10'11" Ja'Lynn Polk - 10'9" Ricky Pearsall - 10'9" Johnny Wilson - 10'8"
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I feel like this tracking is new this year (or at least new to the public) so I'm not sure what exactly to make of it, but it's certainly interesting.
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I really can't get over Mitchell's combine. I don't know what to make of it. A guy that explosive with his size and route running ability should have been dominating college competition and instead he's near the bottom of the entire draft class in a lot of the production metrics. I just revisited his film for a third time a couple days ago and now I'm wondering if I have to do it again lol. I just don't get it.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12pCgsJPa9X-jjNMOZ_exJTAEfxmZOeETzEm8SNkuXec/edit#gid=1244172747
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All of the WRs that didn't get an opportunity to catch it in bounds on their first attempt were given a second one.
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I'm lukewarm on his film and his metrics were pretty dreadful. I wouldn't describe him as a Combine-only stud by any means, but the speed he showed today did not show up on film at all IMO. He's a downfield threat for sure, but it was more in the same vein as Coleman rather than a Brian Thomas or Xavier Worthy type.
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4.35 for Adonai Mitchell, holy hell
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McConkey faster than Legette is going to surprise some people lol
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Yeah...if that's the best Coleman is able to do he's getting bumped out of the first round.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pbgXALH2Ld6TqvXCiBZC7dWnoN2s8J5-2OrpZUOl1HA/edit?pli=1#gid=1531643954 Hand sizes are included in this spreadsheet. JJ McCarthy had the smallest at 9". Drake Maye was 9.125". Penix had the largest hands at 10.5".
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He was supposed to be. I know he skipped the measurements but not sure if he's skipping athletic testing/drills too. He did measure at 5'10.5" and 215 at the Senior Bowl.
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They're currently doing the vert and broad jumps but it isn't being shown on TV. I'll list some of the measurements for the notable guys below, but here's a link for the vert and broad: https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/vertical-jump/wr/all-colleges/ https://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker/live-results/broad-jump/wr/all-colleges/ Verts: Xavier Legette - 40" Adonai Mitchell - 39.5" Troy Franklin - 39" Jermaine Burton - 38.5" Keon Coleman - 38" Jalen McMillan - 37" Javon Baker - 37" Jacob Cowing - 36" Ladd McConkey - 36" Broad: Adonai Mitchell - 11'4" Jermaine Burton - 11'1" Keon Coleman - 10'7" Jalen McMillan - 10'7" Xavier Legette - 10'6" Troy Franklin - 10'4" Ladd McConkey - 10'4" Javon Baker - 10'1" Jacob Cowing - 9'11"
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I think Jerry was at the Senior Bowl but not sure if that was to watch him or networking or whatever (I actually have no idea if Jerry works for the media or anything lol)
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I do think he's presently in a similar mold as Gabe (in terms of not being a burner but still giving you most of his value on vertical routes) but simply better; like I think he'll thrive on backshoulder type throws that Gabe wasn't particularly good at in addition to being a weapon down the field. Question is if you can take his youth and develop him/take the elusiveness that he's shown after the catch/on punt returns and unlock some stuff that Gabe unfortunately never did. I think he's one of very few options beyond the top 3 WRs where there's a fairly reasonable track to him turning into a #1 WR. A lot of risk if his contested catches don't translate though.
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6'2.88"
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6'3.25" and 213 lbs for Keon Coleman; tied with Harrison for the tallest WR so far and the heaviest WR by 1 lb so far over Odunze. Was listed at 6'4" and 215 so relatively spot on. A couple other sleeper candidates that some of the people here like: Javon Baker: 6'1.25" and 202 Jermaine Burton: 6'0.25" and 196