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Yeah, I don't disagree. I think Darnold and Allen are the top 2 on both Cleveland, New York, and Buffalo's big boards but we'll see how it all shakes out in a month! Why not?

I'm not sure that this is proof that he's consistently accurate, but thanks for showing us some of the highlights. All the film I've watched has been the complete game film, but seeing some of his highlights all together like that is so much fun. Simply put, on his good days, he can make throws that no other QB in this draft class would even attempt to make, for better or worse.

No, he's a free agent.

Dropped passes are obviously a big deal, but it's important to consider the fact that a contested catch that gets dropped doesn't go down as a drop. This is important for two reasons in this case: 1. The offensive system that Wyoming uses naturally doesn't create as many openings as offenses at Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, UCLA, etc. do. 2. Wyoming's WRs had a lot of issues with creating separation in general. For example, one of his earlier games, maybe against Hawaii, his WRs dropped like half of his passes, but I would bet that most of them weren't counted as drops because he was threading the needle to WRs that weren't very open. This isn't to suggest that we should ignore all of the red flags with Allen and that he'll definitely be good, but simply pointing to drop percentage doesn't give you the complete picture of the quality of the WRs.

There's simply no way to convince someone that Allen won't suck because there is plenty of potential for him to. But for a fan base that has had roughly an average QB for the past few years and decided that they're sick of average, I find it kind of odd that so many want to avoid taking one of the 2 or 3 QBs that has a legitimate shot at being an elite QB.

I think Baker Mayfield is the only QB that faced more top 30 defenses than Lamar and the average defensive rank of Lamar’s opponents was higher than any of the other top QB prospects.

Not yet. I’d bet that’ll come after their pro days.

Being too good at running isn't what has prevented "running QBs" from winning a Super Bowl. Not being a good enough passer or simply not having the fortune of being on a great team is. Guys like Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Donovan McNabb, Mike Vick, John Elway, Steve Young, etc. have proven that you can win with a "running QB". Only one team gets to win the Super Bowl each year and in a league with like 5 guys that you might consider to be "running QBs", the odds simply aren't in your favor in any given year that a "running QB" will win the Super Bowl. But if Lamar becomes an average passer, your team will probably be a contender as long as the team around him isn't awful and he'll probably be an MVP candidate. I'd be okay with that.

So is a slight movement allowed or not allowed with this new rule? The article makes it sound like it is allowed but that was already the case this year.

Smokescreen. They’re taking Derwin James for sure.

Not to suggest that it isn’t an issue, but literally none of this year’s QBs work under Center much. Allen and Rosen probably did it the most of anyone and that was only like 10-20% of playcalls. A lot of these guys took roughly 0 snaps under center outside of maybe goal line situations.

My comparisons would be (most likely comparison first, peak comparison second): Darnold: Current version of Jameis Winston, Philip Rivers Rosen: Eli Manning (but injury prone rather than being an ironman), Matt Ryan Mayfield: Jeff Garcia, this past year's version of Case Keenum Josh Allen: Blake Bortles, Cam Newton (but with more emphasis on passing than running) Lamar Jackson: Mike Vick, N/A (I don't think Lamar's potential peak is really comparable to any other QB before him) Mason Rudolph: Nathan Peterman, Elvis Grbac Kyle Lauletta: Colt McCoy, Alex Smith

Besides Barkley, Ronald Jones is my favorite back in the class but I think he’s going to go in the 2nd round. i like Hines, Adams, and Martez Carter as Day 3 targets and could throw Jaylen Samuels in with that group too; I foresee him being used mainly as a receiving back in the NFL rather than a TE.

glad you are not the Bills GM

1. Lamar Jackson – His accuracy isn’t great, but pretty much everything else about him as a prospect is. He has the arm strength to make every throw, has more experience going through progressions than most of the rest of the class, does a good job taking care of the ball, and is possibly the best running QB we will ever see. 2. Sam Darnold – He doesn’t show much in terms of going through progressions and plays in a simplistic offense, but he does show you anticipatory throws which is pretty rare in the college game. His ball placement is generally very good, his arm strength is pretty good, and he has a knack for being able to buy time when he needs to to make plays. 3. Josh Allen – He comes from a pro-style offense and has been asked to make full-field reads, which is pretty rare for the college game nowadays. His arm strength is maybe the best I’ve ever seen, opening up playbooks in ways that no other prospect does. He’s amazing at getting out of sacks and is a pretty talented runner. If teams believe that his footwork is the root of his accuracy issues, that is fixable, and if fixed, he could easily become an elite QB, which I think is the case for only him and Lamar. 4. Baker Mayfield – A lot of the same things I said about Darnold apply to Mayfield as well; good ball placement, good enough arm strength, has a knack for buying time with his legs. I don’t think you see as much anticipation with him and I’m less sure about his ability to adapt to a more normal offense, but I think he’s a good prospect nonetheless. 5. Josh Rosen – His mechanics are nearly perfect already and he has natural arm strength; he doesn’t really zip balls in very often and tends to float his deep balls too much, but he throws with pretty much the perfect amount of velocity on short and intermediate balls. He’s shown an ability to go through progressions; probably the most in the class. My big issues with him are that he’s a sitting duck in the pocket with durability issues and a tendency to make poor decisions under pressure. I think he’s a pretty safe pick as long as he stays healthy, but I don’t think his ceiling is as high as the guys I have listed ahead of him and the health issues concern me a lot. I’d still take him in the 1st round, but he isn’t my preferred choice. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6. Kyle Lauletta – After the 5 1st round guys above, Lauletta is the only other guy I’d be happy to take before Day 3. In his game film, his ball-placement stands out; I think his ball-placement is the best in the class. The velocity wasn’t really there in game film, but he showed much better velocity at the Senior Bowl. He’s not going to beat you with his legs, but he has that ability to maneuver the pocket just enough to create a good throwing window for himself. A lot of one-read passes at Richmond though. I’d feel comfortable taking him in the 2nd or 3rd round. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7. Mason Rudolph – When there were rumors that he was going to be in the 2017 draft, I thought he was a good target around the 4th round. That’s where I have him in the 2018 draft as well. His arm strength is Peterman-esq, which is to say, I don’t think it’s good enough to survive in the NFL. His deep balls and out routes just float way too much for my liking. His ball placement in general isn’t very good IMO; it’s adequate for the caliber of WRs he played with at Oklahoma State, but I don’t really think there’s anything to hang your hat on with Rudolph. I think he’s just a guy. 8. Luke Falk – Basically everything I said about Rudolph also applies to Falk, except his deep ball is worse and he has durability issues. The two things that I do like a lot about Falk is that he’s willing to step into hits in order to make a good throw and he’s very aware of where his checkdowns and hot-reads are. He still tends to hold on to the ball too long, so he ends up taking unnecessary hits, but he’s very willing to check it down if need be, which is a good thing. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 9. Luis Perez – I’m searching for more film on him, but I watched the Division II title game and came away very impressed with him. He has kind of a crazy story; he didn’t even play football in high school. He was a high school bowler who went to a junior college in California and decided to try out for the football team and ended up making the roster as the 3rd string QB. He eventually won the starting job, led them to a conference championship, and transferred to a Division II school where he ended up winning the equivalent of the Heisman. His ball placement throughout the Division II title game was superb; nearly every pass hit his target in stride and I think he threw a total of 2 or 3 uncatchable balls on roughly 50 attempts. Like Falk, he’s constantly aware of where his checkdowns are, and unlike Falk, he’ll protect his own body by dumping it off before the defense has a chance to hit him. He’s able to make throws with anticipation; he’s especially good at timing curls and hitches. The offense he plays in is pretty simplistic and exclusively shotgun/pistol-based; he had a chance to show his dropback mechanics at the NFLPA Bowl and it was hilariously bad. Still though, I came away impressed with him; I think he actually has some potential, but there will no doubt be a major learning curve for him if an NFL team gives him a chance. 10. Mike White – White was spectacular in the Senior Bowl, and if I was confident that that version of him is what I would get from him all the time, he’d be way higher on my list. But every other game I’ve seen of his, his ball-placement is pretty sporadic and he basically has the athleticism of Tom Brady, but actually tries to make plays with his legs, which is not good at all. He has enough arm strength and he shows more than I expected in terms of going through progressions, but I’ve come away with the feeling that I’m watching a different QB from the one that most others describe. 11. Chase Litton – Perez, White, and Litton are guys that I’d look at in the 6th or 7th round. Litton has a cannon for an arm, but his ball-placement is extremely inconsistent. He calls some audibles at the LOS, which is pretty cool for a college QB, but his accuracy issues force me to push him way down my list. I’d still take a gamble on him late in the draft in the hopes that he figures it out, but he’s a long-shot prospect. I also believe he has an arrest record.

The beauty and curse of rumors is that if they don’t pan out, there’s no actual proof that they weren’t true at the time. We’ll never be able to disprove IB’s assertion that the Bills offered a 2nd round pick for Foles. Edit: I personally take IB with a major grain of salt, but I do trust him when it involves NYC teams like the Giants. He’s proven to have good connections there IMO.

Based on those comments, I'd guess we're skipping a QB this year since the perfect prospect doesn't exist in this year's draft. Seriously though, you could make an argument for any of them based on this with the exception of maybe Mayfield due to the height comments, but we don't know which traits he actually prioritizes. Joe Buscaglia got the impression that his top priorities are: 1. Pocket Presence 2. Arm Strength 3. Accuracy I'd guess Allen is very high on Beane's list based on the context we have to go from.

I'd be ecstatic, but I think that's too low for Roquon, Lamar, and Hurst.

Counting QBs that started at least half the season, Tyrod ranked: 2016: 3rd 2017: 11th

This shouldn't be very surprising. Watson was generally pegged around the 15-30 range on big boards last year; Allen is generally in the top 5-10 on big boards this year. Media scouts didn't like last year's QB class very much.

Combining this list with the one that he wrote dating back to 2011, we can piece his top 10 from 2011-2018 together (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647484/article/top-10-quarterback-draft-prospects-since-2011): Andrew Luck Cam Newton Robert Griffin III Jameis Winston Teddy Bridgewater Marcus Mariota Sam Darnold Carson Wentz Josh Rosen Jared Goff

Running Back (in addition to many others)

Or really any former Redskin apparently

Play-making =/= running ability. It's pretty easy to see similarities to Cam when you watch Allen play IMO.

I don't think Beane has personally gone to any of the Pro Days to this point.