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Definetely..but the issue i will always have is not having better structure..if youre gonna take the raw prospect with upside over the more polished passers then structure is the most prudent. Allen should never have to throw the ball 40 times this year like he nearly did last game..he needs to be ina situation where he has good protection and a running game to rely on while growing..and when hes not seeing something who does he go to..darnold has mcown ...baker has tyrod and stanton...rosen has bradford..Allen isnt gonna learn anything from peterman.

I agree with alot of what he's saying ..Allen is still learning how to play the position baker and darnold and Rosen are ready . Which makes it more insane that we went into the year with Peterman ..Allen shud be learning from a vet right now we could have got Teddy Bridgewater before the Jets for example . Allen has the highest ceiling but also the higher learning curve

But kelvin big mouth can't get seperation Benjamin is ?

LOOL i just spit out my drink

Culture is definitely important ...if you have a winning culture things fall in to place as far of performance on the field. But there has to be a balance you can have the best culture but if you don't have talented players your team won't win. And at times I'm confused about how they judge players ...Kelvin Benjamin is deemed a process guy since they traded for him yet he's arrogant abd other things that seemingly don't fit the culture they want to build yet they jettisoned more talented players because they didn't fit their vision .

The point is..people bashing Rosen for being arrogant is Ptless when so many greats are like Rodgers for example

you know who else is an arrogant prick ...aaron rodgers..i hope the bills arent drafting based on personality alone.

I wasnt surprised at all tbh...belichick traded him because he knew bledsoe had limitations..he wasnt gonna trade garapolo to buffalo unless we gave him a ditka or vikings to cowboys type haul

Just go to the college system problem solved

so far beanes decisions arent looking too good hopefully for everyones sake josh allens turns out to be a franchise qb if not were back here in 3 years firing the whole scouting dept again as the pegulas hire some new regime

well yeahh but we keep trying to take shots and each time he either overthrows foster or foster drops it..bottom line the wr corps is abysmal so as much as i agree that going deep softens the pressure on the run do we have the personnel or the line to do it..other than the vikings game the oline has been under siege

Establish the run so the play-action is actually effective..shady only had 5 carries last game..give him some easy reads like the vikings games..scheme some completions..wr screens etc..move to a quicker passing game so he doesnt have the opportunity to hold the ball and make bad decisions..call more of the plays hes comfortable with.Stick with the run even if its not working and stop getting pass happy hes not equipped for that at this point in his career..if we wanted someone who was ready to be a volume passer day 1 we sghould have drafted rosen .

I hear ya but Allen is our Qb either way gotta just let him grow and get behind him . I had the qbs ranked Mayfield Rosen Darnold in that order pre draft. Allen was always going to be the one who looked the least ready off the bat..because he simply isn't at the same point in his development as the other 3..Mayfield and Rosen already have pocket presence and understand how to throw the football as in when to put zip and when to put touch etc..Allen is still learning these things..mcbeane is banking on him having the highest long term potential due to his physical skill..lets hope hes right or this will be crippling.

The Entire offence was so bad its hard to get a judgement on Allens performance today..it wasnt like the chargers game where allen left some plays on the field and had okish protection..daboll came in with a really bad gameplan..the o line was awful in both run and pass blocking..Im not sure how you expect a Raw rookie to perform in a circumstance where hes facing constant blitzing and the play calling doesnt adapt to that pressure...and absolutely no running game..mccoy ran the ball 5 times.

i dont have a problem with the call...its just a lack of execution.

I honestly don't even understand what his philosophy is..like what are his plays that he relies on...where was the quick plays from the minny game last week there just seems like a lack of cohesion in his play calling u dont see from otehr coordinators

great points the biggest cause for concern for me is daboll..theres absolutely 0 rhythm to this offence...why would mcdermott fire rick dennison then hire another coordinator with even less nfl success calling plays..they knew they were drafting a rookie qb if any this was the time to get a veteran play caller with history of working with qbs who are successful ...todd haley was out there whos record speaks for itself ..chud was available..and darell bevell even they have achieved alot more than daboll in the nfl..so far daboll has lived up to his horrible stints before as oc in the nfl

Exactly . Even when we had cap space we were never in the discussion for free agents for years because of the culture here . The only one who took the money was Mario Williams .

Lmao if it was a beauty contest Peyton Manning and Terry Bradshaw wouldn't be in the hof?

Some of those throws were spectacular...

The officiating across the NFL as a whole is criminal..the bills got boned on a few calls today . The browns just got completely robbed by the refs

Theres no quick fix but it starts with talent acquisition ..the defence could still use more playmakers..but the offence is in dire need of a complete overhaul..mc/beane decided to get rid of the players from Whaley's regime fine but then why trot out your rookie QB with the worst group of wrs as a group that I've possibly ever seen and a oline devoid of talent minus Dawkins . The strength of the team should be running the ball but McCoy has nowhere to go because the oline gets no push.

In New England when they're getting blitzed they throw screens and wr screens it's the staple I would think daboll would have incorporated those things

Dabolls play calling has been abysmal to say the least . Other than the Vikings game he's not helping Allen with his playcalling..why so many passes called given our personnel ..giving McCoy only 5 touches is unnaceptable. The Packers were sending a variety of blitzes all game and Allen isnt there yet when it comes to blitz recognition and knowing his hots so he has to call plays to reduce the pressure well timed screens for example

No because the line does a really poor job creating holes theyve actually been somewhat ok at times during pass blocking but they get very little push..McCoy isn't a back who's gonna get up in the hole and power forward for 3 yards like ivory . He wants to bounce runs and create space but that takes cohesive blocking