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Yikes. No thought was put into that mock.

Optimist. In the past, your average Bills fan off the couch could draft players better than our GMs ever could, but now we finally have a real owner, a real GM and a real HC that are among the finest in the league. No offense to Ralph Wilson, but he had more of a business mentality, while Terry has more of a do whatever it takes to win mindset. I'm confident in Terry Pegula, he's loyal to Buffalo and he wants to win, I'm eternally optimistic in our future.

I think Elway is scared of Allen. Brock Osweiler and Paxton Lynch are very similar to Josh Allen. Big, towering, strong arm QBs. Although I think Josh Allen will be better than both. I got to give Bucky Brooks props for this mock though, if we landed Allen and Evans I think that'd be a great draft for us.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000922017/article/bucky-brooks-mock-draft-30-new-york-jets-land-josh-rosen #12. Josh Allen #22. Rashaan Evans

You can never have enough corners, we need at least 2-3.

I think Josh Allen has a great chance at dropping, same goes for Baker Mayfield. I don't think 4 QBs go top 10, I just don't. I could see 3, but I highly doubt all 4 go.

Awesome, we can be friends now!

Which QB are you thinking at 2? I want Allen if we trade up but my opinion is very unpopular.

I'm more in tune with what Andy Reid did with Mahomes, that's how it should be done. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Jimmy G, Dak Prescott, Carson Palmer, Philip Rivers, Kirk Cousins and so many more benefitted from sitting on the bench. You say start him, we're just going to have to disagree on that one. Wait until the game is agonizingly slow for whoever it is we draft. Some of these guys have never taken snaps under center or audibled a play before in their life, handle them with kiddy gloves.

The backup is always the most popular guy on the team. If we start a rookie week 1 and he goes through growing pains, fans will be banging the table for McCarron to come in. Give the rookie all the time in the world. Sit him down, if McCarron is sucking 5-6 games into the season bench him for [insert draft choice].

I'm pulling for McCarron, I don't care if we trade up to #1, he should be the starter until he does something to lose the job. Redshirt the rookie, pray that a year from now we have 2 good QBs, trade McCarron for multiple draft picks.

I'm not wowed away by Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield. The guy I want is Josh Allen and trading up for him would be risky. I think #7 is where I'd pick up the phone and start trying to move up. #12 + #53 to the Bucs and see if they want to pick up an extra 2nd, but that's as high as I'd go personally.

I renege my statement and I agree with your line of thinking, if the Bills FO thinks he can be a franchise guy, take him 10-15 spots from where he is projected to go.

I don't think there is any chance we don't take a QB in the 1st. In a QB heavy draft with Beane on record saying his #1 priority is to find a franchise QB, I don't think he will take no for answer. All it takes is Allen, Darnold or Rosen to come tumbling down to 7 (probably Allen) and we can easily jump up 5 spots and no other team can match our firepower.

See, I'm in the overdraft category, target which one you like, if he is a 2nd round prospect, take him at 22. We got to walk away with our guy.

The thought of Vita Vea and Rashaan Evans is very appealing, but QB trumps all. I could see Jackson going to Arizona, I think that's a very strong possibility, but I think there is a chance Jackson and Rudolph slip to the very top of the 2nd round like 33-34 overall range. In an ideal world Allen falls to #6 and we move up for him and we never even have to have this conversation. I'm okay with Allen, Rosen, Rudolph, Mayfield, Darnold, Jackson in the 1st round. Take a chance on somebody!

He can't be much worse than the 2019 class, in fact he would probably be 2nd behind Lock. Lamar would be my last option at QB in the 1st, but if everyone was gone, I'd absolutely take him at 22, without a doubt. Maybe with a bit of spit and polish we can shine him up and he can be groomed into a franchise QB. We got to pull the trigger on somebody, there is no other option!

I do respect you very much as a poster, I'm a little higher on Josh Allen and Mason Rudolph than most. I don't really see eye to eye with many folks on those two actually, but I see Mason Rudolph has a bigger, faster and stronger version of Andy Dalton. You could be right, in an ideal world we take Rudolph in the 2nd, but that's not the way it works, QBs always get overdrafted. Better off taking him at 22 versus risking him being taken before us in the 2nd round. Rudolph is a 33-34 overall prospect at the latest. Who cares if we take him 10-15 spots earlier than he was projected to go?

Well, do you think McD will be here in 2 years if we don't draft a QB? He has to hitch his wagon to somebody, what are his other options? Rudolph is a 2nd round talent, without hesitation. He may never be elite, but he is a good prospect and he can develop into an above average starter. Would it be high to take him at 22? Yes. But who is to say he makes it 53? What do you do if he is gone and McCarron and Peterman are our only QBs and there are no decent options going into 2019? McDermott and Beane could be out of a job.

If we don't draft a solid prospect, even an Andy Dalton type prospect like Rudolph, we are going to be in QB purgatory for 2 years minimum. McDermott and Beane's jobs are on the line.

I want Allen more than any QB in the draft, if he doesn't fall, I want Rudolph as my plan b.

There is no QB next year, we have to do something right now. Drew Lock is a helluva player, but outside of him, there is nada. If you have to overdraft Rudolph, fine. We have no choice.

Funny thing is, if Rudolph came out in 2019, only Drew Lock would go ahead of him. There is literally no talent next year, the 5th and 6th best prospects in 2018 would go 2 and 3 in 2019. There is nobody next year unless we pick #1 overall and take Lock.

Where would you guys rank Mason Rudolph if he was in the 2019 draft? Unless somebody rises up my list, I think if Rudolph came out in 2019, only Drew Lock would go ahead of him.

I thought about Rudolph at 22, but I think we can get him in the 2nd, not to mention taking a QB in the 1st is a big commitment, a commitment I would only make for an elite QB prospect. A failed 2nd round QB, you can move on from in a year. A failed 1st round QB can get yourself fired. I don't think McDermott and Beane should rest their fate on an Andy Dalton kind of prospect.