jkeerie

We as fans had a hard time getting over that Monday night. Many of us decided that the rest of the season was irrelevent. Think what it has been like for the players. The team was not the same after that night. Yes, Damar, recovered...but the man, their teammate...who plays the same game they do...still almost died while playing that game. So...I actually saw it as the end of this season. The way the season came to an end...against the very team when the incident occurred...was what I expected. So...the players will go through their off-seasons sorting out feelings still. Some...will be able to think about football, being better next year, etc but for some it stopped being about football that Monday night. McD, the coaches and Beane have to get back to X's and O's, who stays, who goes, etc. We will see how the off season plays out.

I'm listening to the presser now. His point about Spencer Brown at the end was "We're not going to give him a roster spot. We're going to bring in competition." This year, none of the O linemen they had on the roster could unseat him...not because he was good, but because they were worse. At the time we had the top 10 pick, we were still building both sides of the ball. He went with Oliver on the defensive side. Then he got Diggs the following year. As I recall, most folks were happy with both those moves. He clearly believes he needs to see much more from Oliver. The Bengals got Chase because he played with Burrows at LSU. They had a chemistry. Who did Josh play with at Wyoming that would be as immediately compatible? I think that's why Beane went with veteran receivers to help Josh so they wouldn't both be learning at the same time. As to the rest of the presser, I don't expect Beane to trash anyone in the media...just like McD. So these folks that are hearing "run it back"...I"m not hearing that. I'm hearing some things he's happy with, but that they have a lot of work to do.

Totally agree with this. In fact, I'm sort of glad we lost big to the Bengals. In the close loss last year, we thought we were one player away, so we get that player in Von and Beane drafts for depth. It worked in that we beat KC again and that one player was the difference maker. But with all the injuries, the depth was severely tested and didn't hold up. We thought we were set offensively because of how well the offense played in last year's division round. This year's loss showed a boatload of problems on that side of the ball. I'm anxious to hear what Beane says today in his presser. There is very little else to say in terms of threads critiquing the team and the usual "off with their heads" posts. I will be hopeful to read of some coaching changes that I believe are warranted. I am most anxious to read threads from knowledgable folks regarding the draft...particularly oline and WR prospects...and who the Bills might target picking at 27 (according to NFL.com). Also, who would you re-sign, who would you bring in to replace players that should be let go. etc?

Thank you for coming. Have a nice day...elsewhere.

1. Unless he's willing to come cheap. He looked shot, but he was injured. 2. No argument. 3. Could he move inside? 4. Agree or sign him long term. 5. No argument. Dorsey will continue to put too much on Josh's shoulders. 6. No argument. 7. If Singletary is willing to sign a team friendly deal, he still has value. 8. Disagree. I think Tre will be fine. He was coming around but may have been impacted by the snow today. More tentative. 9. Yes. 10. Yes 11. Yes. 12. Diggs will be fine. See number 5. 13. Not sure. Let's see what Shakir can do? 14. Can't argue with this. Need a better WR corps in general.

Against weaker opponents. Stop trying to compare apples and oranges. The Bills lost to a better team today. That means they need to build a better team.

He hasn't gotten one interview this year and he's not likely to. I do agree the Bills need to make a change. Let's hope they do.

No. This one doesn't hurt. This team stopped thinking about football when Damar happened. At that point, football became an afterthought. There was a happy ending but it had nothing to do with winning football games. And that's okay. The better team actually won today. The Bills have lots of work to do...yet again. But it will be done in the off-season. I will watch the rest of the season andl enjoy it with no regrets. This was not a season of "what could have been." This was a season of what was...difficult, harrowing...but when it comes to football...it was what it was.

In my opinion, we played with a backup oline as well. Maybe one or two could be starters on a real oline. We need ro set a higher standard.

I think the days of "defense wins championships" are long over.

I think Carolina should definitely look at an offensive minded head coach. Take Ken Dorsey....please!

I echo this. We lost badly...but I'm not upset. When I saw Daquon Jones was inactive coupled with the snow, I knew the Bengals would run the ball successfully and that the Bills wouldn't because of Dorsey. I'm not down on McD because his calm demeanor and leadership got the Bills through a very rough season. I do hope he takes a hard look at his coaching staff and makes the appropriate changes. I hope Beane does the same with the players. The injuries exposed the lack of depth. This team hadn't been championship caliber since the beginning of the season and things were only getting worse. So...this team needs to reassess, refresh and regroup for next year. We're onto the off-season and the draft.

I have to agree with this. Even the rhetoric from the Bills the last few weeks has sounded like they were relieved they came through the storm, but you didn't hear a lot about actually playing the game. They looked flat even in pregame.

I think I finally have to agree. We need a more aggressive defense and that's not what Frazier coaches. I also was not impressed with Dorsey. It seems our offense worked in spite of him, not because of him.

We haven't been the class of the AFC since week 2.

Nope. I'm pulling for the NFC.

I'm wondering why he isn't.

Go Away!

Agree. 1. We miss Hyde badly. Down to our 4th safety. Poyer playing poorly. 2. Losing Von was huge. Plus really missing Daquon Jones. He is easily our best DT. 3. O line has been awful all year. Plus Dorsey abandons the run to easily. 4. Gabe definitely a disappointment this year. Having said that...the posters on this board that want to blow everything up are ridiculous! Beane built this team based on our weaknesses last year. Too many key injuries wiped that plan out. Need a new plan for next year. Has to start with drafting oline, safety and WR.

Our defense looked confused.

Dorsey blew that. We have 3 time outs. Run the ball.

Frazier, I believe, is regarded as too old. Everyone is looking for the younger successful coordinators. I think older coaches need the prerequisite of having won a Superbowl.

Watching the replay...Romo consistently jinxed the Bills in this game. I was begging him to stuff a sock in it and shut the @$!# up!

Excellent explanation. Thank you.

I beg to differ regarding the NFL rules. The Bills and Ravens were the only teams in control of their own destiny going into that week 17 game. Buffalo wins out, they win the conference. Ravens win out, they win their division. Bengals could get the conference only by winning out coupled with a KC loss. So with the Bills v Bengals game cancelled, they put KC at number 1 by virtue of winning % and they awarded the Bengals the Division for the same reason. However...as accommodations for the Bills and Ravens losing the control over their own destinies and losing the conference and division, they put the AFCCG at a neutral field should KC and Buffalo meet, and they decided on a coin flip for a Ravens/Bengals playoff rematch. Winning % was used for seeding and no rules were changed with the exception of those two accommodations.