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I stopped reading at Portnoy.

I am the exact same way. Do that for setting temperatures too 😆 My old roommate knew I did this and would always f*** with me by turning the volume to some particularly annoying number.

The way I worded my reply was snarky...didn't mean for it to be. What I mean is that just looking at the number of sacks Jerry got (and has gotten recently) doesn't mean that he hasn't been a good pass rusher. You mentioned Tampa in the Super Bowl. They killed Mahomes because the pressure came from everywhere, not just one guy. They're investing in the line to try to get consistent pressure from more than just one side because that (hopefully) results in sacks/turnovers instead of just pressures & QB hits. Jerry does what he can more often than not but if a QB can just sidestep a bit or move up in the pocket because the rest of the line is getting dominated, then we're wasting his efforts. It's no surprise that his best sack numbers were when we had Mario, Kyle and a good version of Dareus. Again sorry for the tone...I'm just a big Jerry supporter 😎

Just looking at number of sacks is a lazy and inaccurate way to judge a player's value. It's why half of this board was so bent out of shape about not re-signing Jordan Phillips. I was a fan of his but man was he overrated.

This is not a good take...

Jerry doesn't need any fires lit...dude already plays like his hair is on fire. He just needs someone else to get pressure!

And he re-signed 3 starters...two of them being very good starters and at outstanding price tags. As far as Sanders...I would tend to think that most here think he's an improvement over Brown and even if we kept Brown he'd be gone after this year anyway so what's the difference? What other free agents would you have wanted us to sign that wouldn't have been categorized as Beane spending money poorly...that's paraphrasing your 1st post here. If you don't like Edmunds, that's fine and is a pretty easy argument to defend quite often last year but to say Beane is objectively bad at contracts is just wrong. Sure there have been some misses but if 100% perfection in a league that very rarely gets it perfect is your standard, then you must be a load of fun to watch a game with.

Probably not but that shouldn't take away from his time as a Bill. Jerry has been one of my favorites for quite a while no matter what his stat line looks like. He still plays at an outstanding level and plays his rear end off all the time. Hoping some of the new blood can get pressure on the QB this year so we can talk about Jerry's sack numbers instead of QB pressure rate.

This is pretty much exactly what I was going to say. We've been pretty spoiled at the RB position over the years so maybe we have gotten a bit spoiled. I would love to see a Venn diagram of posters that think Motor is total garbage and ones that think Williams is the answer...I think it would be a single circle. Williams might very well have some potential but the TBD trend of seeing a guy that did something in garbage time or a meaningless game and then anointing him as a savior is really weird to me.

I just checked and he's only 29. Get it done Beane!!!

Tough to disagree with the post & very well thought out. I think Cleveland (at least on paper) improved more than we improved but I still think our offseason has been a success considering I didn't think we would re-sign Milano and Williams. I still think Buffalo is the better team but definitely think that Cleveland closed the gap. Not taking possible injuries into consideration I would say that if they don't win that division then it was a disappointing season. Same for Buffalo but that's obvious 😎

Couldn't agree more. There were a bunch of players in the draft that I really liked and wanted to see us pick but at the end of the day...what the heck do I know! We shouldn't be content with the recent success that we've had but at the same time I do think they deserve the benefit of the doubt. I liked the picks and I'm happy that we weren't in dire need of any one position in particular considering this draft was one of the worst from a talent pool and talent evaluation standpoint. And in spite of that, our 1st two picks are objectively talented! If Rousseau had 2020 tape, I don't think he would have been even close to available at 30 and Basham's 2019 tape was nearly as good. Position of need (both short term and long term) has been addressed without reaching or having to use draft capital. They might not be 100% ready right away but who is? They may not end up being great but who the heck knows. That's how the draft is and how it has always been. I'm sure a lot of the criticism is rooted in a love for this team so that's understandable but everyone...including the optimists...just needs to take a breath & TRUST THE PROCESS.

I was definitely a "wrong Josh" guy at first. Oops.

The number of people in this thread suggesting that Jerry could be the odd man out is absolutely stunning to me.

How is he a bad human? Not disagreeing, I just might not know something about him. Late round picks aren't slam dunks, they are often upside players and he has quite a bit of upside in my opinion.

Tamorrion Terry in any of the rounds would be good with me.

My favorite comment of the draft so far.

Something that was said in ESPN is that scouts didn’t love him but coaches do. I think that’s a pretty good thing.

LOL told you guys.

Up next is the draft’s first real clunker...the RAIIIIIIIDERS

You don't like Mina Kimes?

Great post! This is why I love the draft...there will be a guy I've never heard of before and then instantly become enamored 😄 My other new late round receiver that I want in a Bills jersey next year is Tamorrion Terry. I've seen lots of analysis that says his floor would be that of Marquez Valdes-Scantling and that would definitely be okay by me.

Okay everyone, we can all be quiet now. Someone liked Josh in 2018 so clearly any disagreement with him should be met with ridicule and derision. Regarding your argument that some posters don't think we should have a great dual threat back...I think they would love that, but are saying that using a first round pick and especially trading up to get one is not ideal. For every McCaffrey and Saquan, there's a Kamara, Aaron Jones..heck...Thurman was a second rounder in an era that placed massive value on RBs.

Miami stuns everyone and takes a QB at 6. Unlikely but this isn't the thread for likely 😃

Man, I really Hope we trade Edmunds today. Okay not really, but it comes up in just about every post so I figured what the heck. I love draft day & have for a long time regardless of where the Bills pick because I absolutely love football. It's pretty cool to see the reactions of the draftees, the fans and the talking heads and consequently I find some of the most annoying sports people to be those that go out of their way to say "DERRRR I don't care about the stupid draft!!!!". On a different note...what network are all of you going to be watching for draft coverage? I'm a little town because I actually sort of like Mel Kiper but really can't handle Chris Berman (not even sure if he's going to be part of it) so I think I will opt for the NFL network. Can't go wrong with Rich Eisen, even though he's a Jets fan 😉