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I didn't read through every single post here, but I read alot of them.....I have 2 points. 1. first let me address the crowd that points out "Mahomes wouldn't be as good here as he is in KC because of weapons" Truly, Mahomes did end up in the optimal spot....KC was a great match for what he does and had skill players in place. I am sure that only in KC does the kid have 50/5000 season, but you are not giving enough credit to Mahomes for the things he does as a QB that lifts the entire roster around him. IF he had landed in Bufalo or anywhere else, he'd have been special and would have made the skill players on any roster look better than they are. Also....as a KC fan...It's irritating to keep seeing that the national perception is that we have "a good line". WE DO NOT have a good line. We have 2 good tackles and a very bad G-C-G combo. If Joe Flacco was KC's QB, he'd get killed. also, as great as you might think our RB are (there are good) .....KC SUCKS at getting any kind of push when you need a yard....they get pushed back. it's awful. I digress....Mahomes would even make the Jets a respectable team. 2. This whole thing has been talked out enough....For a team that gets called out for missing on Mahomes, the Bills landed squarely on their feet with Allen. He's a top end NFL QB talent at this point and he's fun as hell to watch. I know I enjoy it whenever I get a chance to watch Bills games. He is a guy you can build around and win a super bowl with. You'll be competing with Mahomes to do it....but Allen is one of the few young horses in this leauge who potentially can do that. This whole thing would another awful chapter in the long history of Bills missteps if you didn't land Allen....your franchise is in good shape! The Pegulas, from the outside looking in....seem like good owners that have made sound choices....they just kind of oddly handled that 2017 offseason wich made for a situation where taking a QB at 10 wasn't really something McD was going to be comfortable doing at his sole discretion. It's fine. Things turned out pretty good considering.

Wow....you guys are really taking this loss bad. The Bills aren't a juggernaut of a team...but you guys are good! you lost to a KC team, that brought damn near the entire roster back from a super bowl winner. You might have not have noticed, but you lost to a good football team, and you were in it to the end. The weather certainly played a part in this game as well. there are at least 25 NFL teams that would trade their QB for Josh Allen right now.....you have your QB....he isn't perfect (who is?...did you see Aaron Rodgers this week?) This game helps tell you that you aren't quite there just yet...that's ok..you've been heading in the right direction for 3 years now.

Frankly, I've been looking forward to giving some of the backups a chance....our interior 3 LG/C/RG starters have been bad for YEARS.....this Kilore at C for us is a major upgrade.

That's more like what I'm used to seeing.

Horrible call.

Allen maybe feeling the presure to live up to matching up with the champ

lets gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! ..............................................................Chiefs!

Ugh...the kiss of death....all the broadcast crew picks your team......

Hey Bills fans....I didn't ever really think this day would come. Until just recently, I never thought Josh Allen would ever become "the franchise". I'm glad that he has though....this is the best KC/Bufallo matchup since the 93 AFC title game. Just a few short years ago, who would have thought a KC VS Bufallo game would feature a matchup of elite QBs? I of course will be rooting for my Chiefs, but if you guys do win, I sure hope it isn't like that route KC put on you guys on MNF back in like 92 or whatever it was.....Im hoping for a good game....(and for the Chiefs to cover...I have them -4 1/2) PS.....no excuses for KC whatever happens....as long as we have Mahomes....we are defending champions.....if we lose, it's because we deserve to.

FWIW....mahomes has never lost a game by more than one score.....they are IN every game to the last with him.

I knew it the moment his name parsed the lips of Commissioner Goodell at the draft! (Ok, I am joking...you all saw my mea culpa thread I put up a couple weeks ago)

First.....instead of debating this......I'd like to point out how very rare this WIN-WIN trade has turned out. KC got a superstar QB....usually when one team makes a trade and is on the side that ends up with the superstart QB...that means the other team must have lost the trade.....but that is NOT the case here. Buffalo ultimately ended up with star CB, a franchise QB, and has accomplished EVERYTHING they could have hoped for when they made that deal. Both teams got exactly what they wanted out of it and both teams are better for it. It's amazing how it all turned out. saw this nugget in the discussion....and have seen this and heard this A LOT. .....KC has the core locked up for for the next few years as it is....and KC has drafted well...there is talent in the pipeline that is cheap and viable. ...Buffalo will have the same challenge very soon too....and it's a WAY WAY WAY better problem/challenge than not having a franchise QB take up alot of cap space.

I assume you are bashing Lamar for throwing a "high" number of short TD passes....most TD passes are short....becaus they are easier...if you look at all QB's they all have many more short TD throws than long ones.

LOL.... Patrick Mahomes has NEVER socred fewer than 31 points VS Bill Belichick.

I found this paragraph to be a bit homer-ish....."He can't throw like Josh"? Allen has a "better" arm? What throw does Josh make that Mahomes can't or doesn't make? ....Better Arm...both can launch it. if we are talking arm strength....they both have elite arm strength. ....then last sentence...LOL...Mahomes "can't learn to throw like Josh" ....uh....OH NO! my MVP, and Super Bowl MVP apparently can't throw like Josh Allen....man...what a bummer! Most offensive coordinators are able to dial up some plays where guys end up open. Daboll has his share of these. Mahomes often finds and hits these targets when they are "wide open" He also hits guys when they aren't wide open and throws them open etc....it's good when the QB does both. Uh...... Josh Allen 16 of 39 TD passes, inside 10 yards...that's 41% Lamar, 21/46 45% not exactly the stat you want to be trying to use here. The blueprint is out there. You must get pressure on Mahomes with your front 4 consistantly, and you give a bunch of different looks with man/zone combos that make mahomes have to process long enough for your pass rush to move him. The Chargers are a team that has given us (KC) fits with this for years. The 49ers were able to do it in the SB...KC still won....but that's how you slow Mahomes. I haven't seen enough of you guys to know yet, but if your front 4 can't get it done....that's not good for you. Happy Days makes an astute observation here. Mahomes was 16/19 with 3 TDS and something like 250 yards VS the Blitz against hte Ravens. Blitzing mahomes is a BAD idea. he kills blitzs. You need the front 4 to win on their own. KC more than doubled them in yardage etc. While the ravens did come withing 7 points in the 3rd Q when the score became 27-20, KC had some miscues that should have opened up a bigger score....missed XP, missed FG, that's 4 points, fumbled inside 20 on first drive of Q3. Didn't convert on a 3rd and 1, then 4th and 1, TO on downs. Score was closer than actual play indicated. KC D only gave up 13 points. Same thing last year. KC won 33-25. KC was up 33-10 going into Q 4. Game was never in doubt....Balt got garbage time TD including last TD with like 30 seconds left in the game....and there were 2 4th downs in the 4th Q where Lamar litteraly was being sacked and just lobbed up prayers...and they caught both.....score was much closer than the game actually was. It wasn't that close.

Same as last year week 3 in KC when they played.....KC has completely obliterated these guys the last 2 times they've met.

I do think the level of QB play overall, in the NFL has never been higher....and I think there are alot of contributing factors. 1. I do think, the NFL has come to understand that colleges are supplying guys that can run and pass, who aren't orthodox like the old days. 2. The rules favor passing, making it easier for some guys who might have been on the fringe, to now be successful 3. There are simply more people than ever being born and playing sports overall, wich was bound to lead to a few more genitically gifted, trained dudes that can QB 4. NFL scouting of QB has improved in the last decade...especially the last 5 years....they are getting better and knowing what to look for...so fewer busts. 5. The rookie NFL scale for draft picks has made it so that it isn't a franchise death nell when you miss on a 1st round QB like it used to be. Teams are willing to take the risk....Arizona was able to move on from Rosen after 1 season to draft Murray..that would NEVER have happend pre rookie scale. Alot of teams....like the Bills for example, could afford a guy like Allen who was high risk, high reward because the money wasn't prohibative if it didn't work. Still......all 32 can't be awesome....there will always be a degree of separation from best to worst. Also....as the passing games keep ramping up, we'll see teams like th 49ers and Titans shift to power run games or teams use big 3 TE sets against these small nickel and dime looks designed to prevent the pass......but yeah...QB play has never been better than it is now.

I haven't had much else to comment on, besides Allen since I've been here...other than predicting preseason records for the entire NFL (a fools errand).....but I did want to post about this because I am not a chicken***t that talks and talks and then just runs away when it doesn't work out. My hot vietnamese wife makes killer fish sauce wings!

.....that doesn't have anything to do with it..... It's easy to admit this because Allen has completely exceeded what I thought he'd be....if you go back and look at what I thought would happen.....it's easy to admit because I was clearly wrong about it.

I thought there was some potential to be a Trubisky like reverse in the upward progress Allen made last year. (wrong of course)

I joined this board, after the trade that allowed KC to select Patrick Mahomes and have stuck around the last few years to see how things played out. I hung out here, speculating about all the 2018 QB's, the draft manuvering, and watched you guys all debate and discuss who you wanted the Bills to take. .....when the Bills took Allen.....I came here and put in my 2 cents. I did NOT think Allen would make it as an NFL QB. I was on the side of the debate that said, his completion pct is who he is, and who he's going to be. I didn't think he could improve enough to be much more than an enticiing novelty. I posted that opinion here numerous times. I am here today to tell you.....to admit....the I was WRONG. While I've always enjoyed watching Allen play, I'd always thought he'd ultimately be a flash in the pan in the big picture as time wore on. He's not. He's legit. He's taken a big leap each season he's been in the NFL. It's a credit to him, and especially to your coaching staff for identifying the talent, and the potential, and then actually getting Allen to progress. I want to thank you all for allowing me to be a part of your community and give my opinion. I have enjoyed it, and will continue to pop in from time to time. I'm sure I'll be around when KC plays the Bills...that should be fun. Anyhow....one more time.... I WAS WRONG ABOUT JOSH ALLEN. I'll be having that crow now.

we had a horrible game VS Detroit week 3 last year where we played soft, looked bad, and then won at the end.....because Mahomes.

Josh Fumbles two times fish are better than you think hard to win down south

The forumla that was a winner for decades is still a winner if they'd just go back to it.....make it about the game....and put some announcers in that are about the game. NFL football sells itself if you just let it. Even to casual fans or peole who don't understand the rules...you dont need to pander to them....they'll watch becasue everyone else is....

I went Bucs...I think simply having Brady not turn the ball over will be enough to win alot of games. The Bucs D is legit.