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Sure..you need all the talent you can get across the roster. If you have an elite QB, who doesn't need a security blanket...then the best way to build a roster is probably not spending high on a WR who demands targets and is a locker room cancer.

Now that Diggs has been traded and it's come to light there has been ongoing problems in the Diggs/Allen relationship.....I STAND BY THIS. Allen is going to have a great year, and the Bills are going to be FINE. Allen is now free to run the offense without having in the back of his mind that he has to get one of the guys a number of targets. The ball can and will go to the optimal reciever on a given play.

....The vote was to extend the already in place 3/8 cent sales tax that runs through 2030. Funds were to go to the Chiefs for renovatoins at Arrowhead...and to the Royals who were proposing a new downtown stadium. This is a COUNTY tax. The same country in which Kansas City Missouri, the actual city, is in. So not only did KC city voters get to participate in this, so did residents of the other towns in Jackson County. First...some clarification about Kansas City itself. AS many of you point out and are aware, Kansas City, MO is where the actual downtown is at. There is also a Kansas City, Kansas, on the other side of the Missouri/Kansas Border that is it's own city. The actual residents inside of the Kansas City, city limits, like most major cities, the residents aren't rich, but are heavily taxed. Within KC city limits itself, there was a pretty strong push for NO on this. Certain, the NO vote people were well organized. Second. As some here have noted, this whole thing was the Royals and Chiefs tied together. The combined efforts of the two teams to put out any sort of plan or vision was AWFUL. Especially on the Royals side, but let me talk about the Chiefs first. The Chiefs wanted 800 million in public funds for renovations. They put out some drawings of what they wanted to do...and it was UNDERWHELMING. bigger video boards...(the ones they have are fine) complete the concorse all the way around the upperdeck. something called an "activation zone" in the area where Royals staidum currently stands...looks like a big open field where you might also put a stage and host a few things maybe. And the list gets more and more underwhelming as you go. Certainly looks like very very little bang for the bucks, based on what was presented. The Royals, couldn't decide which site they wanted, flip flopped on that a few times, couldn't come an agreement on community benefits with any of these neighborhood associations etc. And couldn't seem to get numbers or plans or a message straight....up to and including completing a benefits agreement wiht one of these groups with just 2 hours left before the poles closed. It was the most half assed, confused effort. I believe the NO vote didn't win based on their whining and complaining about the tax that has already been in effect for decades. They won because the teams weren't on point, couldn't present a cohesive plan and what they did produce, was underwhelming. The teams message has been "we don't know what we'll do going forward, including moving." ....which national media takes to mean...moving to a completely new locale...not KC metro. The Chiefs aren't going anywhere. They will get a separate deal with the county and do whatever upgrades at Arrowhead or failing that, KANSAS can and will roll out the read carpet for them. The Royals path forward isn't as clear. Both Arrowhead and Kaufman stadiums have held up extremely well over time. Alot of people wonder outload why the Royals need a new stadium downtown (where GASPPP!!!! there isn't that much parking!!!) Technically, they don't need a new stadium to actually play ball in and have parking and access. The stadium remains a perfectly fine venue in that regard. The owners want what they have in Colorado. A downtown stadium, with alot of foot traffic around a bunch of bars and other entertainment, with access to the streetcar, etc. They want something that generates more attendence in the park and more money outside the park. The Rockies are terrible and still sell a ton of tickets and generate a ton of money outside the stadium. The Royals will try again with hopefully a much better proposal and plan...but if they can't get something done in the next few years, I'd think they'd be ripe to leave for someplace that will build exactly that sort of revenu generating setup. Nashville, Charlotte, Salt Lake....they'd make it happen if the Royals shake loose. The Chiefs plans were so horribly mediocre that I can't help but wonder if they sabotaged their side of htis on purpose so they could have an excuse to negotiate and all new stadium with Kansas. I'm not a conspiracy theory person, but their handling was THAT bad....that you have to consider it. Anyhow...the Chiefs aren't going anywhere. Last point. I think there were large numbers of people who aren't in the mood to give public funding to very rich owners to do this or that. I think people are legitamately asking why billionaires can't foot more or all of the bill for enterprises that are enormousely profitable (the answer is ...BECAUSe THEY CAN) ...but the trend is people dont' have much appetite to support this stuff these days.

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1. As mentioned earlier (but not read by just about everyone posting here) If they "leave" it's for other locations in the KC metro. This is a non story. 2. You can argue that tax funds invested into sports stadiums isn't all that great a deal for the taxpayer if you are wanting to drill down and find out how much revenue is generated VS what is invested. FINE...that isn't really what this is about (even thought the owners and politicians will claim what an economic boon it is!) ...the game is ......do you want to invest public funds in partnership with billionaires who own the teams, so that the stadium/arena and stuff is satisfactory and the team stays in your community? yes or no? because if you don't want to pony up, there is a line around the block of other communities who will. Greed? Coldhearted business.. playing at the heartstrings of fans OF COURSE.... I'd argue the value of of the investment is to HAVE the team..which in our day and age when there is so little that bonds us together as poeple...one of the few things that does...is a pro sports team.

Be careful what you wish for. The last time the Chiefs got punished for tampering in 2016, the NFL made KC forfiet their 3rd round pick right before the 2016 NFL draft. This single event propelled KC into a dynasty by protecting KC from itself. KC wanted Paxton Lynch and couldn't beat Denvers offer to trade up from 31 to 26 becasue KC didn't have a 3rd round pick to trade. If they had it, KC would have been able to offer 28 and 91 for 26 and draft Lynch. Instead Seattle took Denvers offer of 31 and 94. KC was missing pick 91. KC traded back to 36 after it couldn't trade up for Lynch and instead they drafted Chris Jones. The following season, they were still looking to draft a young future QB and traded up to 10 for Pat Mahomes. If KC didn't tamper with Jeremy Maclin, none of that happens. KC takes Lynch, doesn't draft Jones, and only 1 year into Lynch, isn't about to draft another QB in round 1.

It's amazing that this topic comes up over and over again. The Bills did not trade Mahomes to the Chiefs. The Bills traded the 10th overall pick in the 2017 Draft to KC. KC had been talking to the McDermott pretty much since the day he got hired, about moving up IF the board fell in ways that both teams were compelled to move up for KC, and down for Buffalo. KC was trying to move up to pick 5 once the festivities started. When pick 10 arrived, KC wanted to come up because Mahomes was still on the board. I can't stress enough, the McDermott had only been at the job 1 month. He is a D minded coach and did not consider himself qualified to be making a choice about a QB. Watson and Mahomes both were on the board when pick 10 came up. He decided it would be best to gather AMMO for next year, when they'd have a GM in place and they could evaluate and be on the same page about a QB in what was billed as a GREAT QB draft year in 2018. (2017 was not considered a good QB year) McDermott having traded away pick 10, (NOT MAHOMES) did about as well in 2018 as you possibly could! Josh Allen. For all McD knew, KC had moved up for Watson. He didn't know who they'd take at 10 out of Watson or Mahomes. It's quite likely the biggest Win/Win trades in NFL history how it's turned out and yet so many here think it's the Bills/McD fault KC got Mahomes. Is it the 49ers fault the Bears Got Trubisky? Afterall, the Bears traded up to two and made that choice. No one in Chicago blames San Francisco for "giving" Trubisky to the Bears.

One more thought on Ariaza from a KC perspective (IMO) I've seen some posts here knocking Araiza's lack of skill at directional punting/pinning teams in deep. I would ask, If you are punting from your own 50 and you fail to pin it in, and it's a touchback...how many yards did you lose by failing to pin it deep? The touchback puts it at the 25. A returner may have fair caught it at the 10...maybe even the 15 if he doesn't see a return available..but lets say he fair catches at the 10 as most are taught to let anything inside the 10, just bounce. That's 15 yards it's costing by having the punter fail to pin it deep. Now ask if you are the same team punting from your own 25 and your punter blasts a 60 yard punt with hangtime. Let's assume that the hangtime is good enough to compell a fair catch. That's going to be around the opponents own 15-20 yard line...completey and utterly flip the field. In both cases the other team is looking at a 75-80 yard drive. I'll take the guy who can make the other team have to go 80 yards after I've had to punt from my own 25 yard line.

Townsend is UFA. He's an excellent putner and he's gong to get paid. I am very happy for him and happy for his time in KC. The Chiefs aren't opposed to paying good money for a good kicker. Butker is one of the highest paid kickers in the NFL. He's worth every last penny....dude is NAILS in the post season. There is no justification for paying a punter top of market when you are KC. Either you believe Mahomes is going to make up for some of what you'd need a punter for, or your defense will. Araiza is a great low key signing for KC. When KC needs to punt....he will punt. In some circumstances...he will punt very far....and relatively inexpensively. For this not to be an OVERALL (including financials) Araiza will have to be pretty bad. I don't think so. KC probably going to get alot of bang for the buck on this one.

Speaking for myself...I've totally thought the Bills have been good enough and are good enough to win a championship for a while now. Unfortunately, the Chiefs are also good enough...and the Bengals have been right there...and this season, Baltimore was good enough to get it done also. The AFC is a guantlet. I remain convinced the Bills, with Allen are always a threat. (next year, with the Bills cap situation, it will be harder, but sometimes you win in the years you don't have the best version of your team.)

This could be made so much simpler if in the playoffs, you just eliminate the coin toss and home gets ball/choice. Sudden death. Make the regular season matter. Super bowl would need to be a little different because of the home team thing...just make that first team to score 6 points (one TD or 2FG) wins the game after a coin toss to decide who gets ball.

....Beane has been a very good GM.... Beane drafted ALLEN. I also don't think you all appreciate enough, how bad the roster was when he took over. The entire O line from Allens rookie year was OUT OF FOOTBALL within a year of Beane arriving. Most of the rest of the offense was too with very few exceptions. He had to churn the hell out of the roster AND develop a very raw QB at the same time. no small feat. I read the posts around here. Beane makes mistakes on draft day. ALL GMs do. he's had some great picks too. He's made some good trades. You can do alot worse...and you guys should know how bad it COULD be better than anyone. That doesn't mean Beane isn't deserving of criticism nor does it mean he shouldn't be questioned for not winning a SB thus far with the QB he has..that's all valid, but damn..to read some of the posts around here you'd think the guy was Dave Gettleman! Veach has had his share of errors. Veach's 1st draft as "the man" was a disaster. Treaded up for Breeland Speaks who was a complete bust. Only Derrick Nhadi in round 3 has had any impact at all and he is JAG at best and mostly below average. Veach gave MLB Anthony Hitchins a RIDICULOUS contract...he was terrible. The contract was so bad KC couldn't cut him. Overpaid for Sammy Watkins...who at least had some decent post season games but a huge overpay. You could certainly make the case that KC signing Jawan Taylor for top OL money was a mistake/overpay. I won't try too hard to fight that one...he's not bad when he's not getting called for false starts..but that happens way too much and he has a rep so gets plenty of holding calls too! Veach has learned from his mistakes and he's hit on key players in the past few drafts and made trades essential to KC sustaining success. Perhaps the least talked about, but most important accomplishment was after KC lost the 2020 Super Bowl where they lost both starting OT to more or less career ending injuries, had the worst starting center in the leauge and JAG at OG at best....he completely rebuilt the O LINE in an offeseason by trading for Orlando Brown (who was pretty good but not a great pass blocker) drafting Creed Humphrey and Smith who both started as rookies and played well..and signed ALL PRO LG Thuney. They played Wylie at RT...and he wasn't great, but he was competent enough to make that work. That was a miracle. And while Veach hasn't hit on O side skill players well.... Clyde Edwards Hellaire...BUTS. Sky Moore. BUST... Mecole Hardman has done quite well considering where he was drafted....he gets crapped on because KC passed on DK Metcalf. And KC hit on Rice this year...and Pacheco in round 7 last year. Veach nails DB's. KC has a type they look for and Veach finds them in every round. I think though, it should be said that Veach understands what the coaches want and he finds guys they can use. Veach therefore get a TON of help by having hte same coaching staff in place year after year...he gets their type and the coaches develop the players....makes Veach success rate look even better. EVEN after all this....it's still a QB leauge. You really gotta have one. Without Mahomes...all the above isn't near good enough.

Maybe I misunderstood the post about KC winning 13 games in a row with a negative turnover ratio...but if that is what the poster said and intended...that is wrong. KC wins a nuber of games with negative ratios (so do the Bills) but being on the wrong side of TO ratio is hard and even great teams lose more than win whenever the TO ratio isn't in their favor. Bad teams can NOT overcome it all. The broncos for example..haven't won a negative TO ratio game in nearly 2 years.

The Bills are already 4th best odds to win SB next year. I think when you are close and you havn't made it yet, there is a tendency to overanalyze everything. You have Josh Allen and a talented roster. I'd compare the current Bills team VS the Chiefs similar to the 70's Steelers and Raiders. The Raiders were close...and the imaculate reception got them ...kind of similar to 13 seconds. Finally the Raiders broke through in the middle of Pittsburgs run whe the Steelers made it to the AFCCG with both their 1 and 2 RB's injured and unable to play. The Raiders won and went on to win the super bowl. The Steelers would go on to win 2 more in that decade and then Raiders would win a couple in the early 80's. I don't think every little thing about what the Raiders were doing needed to come into question and be nit picked to death. They were on the right track to building a team capable of winning a title, but so were the Steelers. Winning titles is hard and often you have to play against and overcome another really good team......even as your roster is good, your team is good, your coaching is good. I think the Bills are right there, they just simply haven't gotten over the hump...no amount of analysis etc is going to solve a problem you really don't have. When the time comes around again, the Bills will have to beat some good teams to win a title, even as the Bills ARE a good team that other teams have to overcome to win.

I stand by it! .....but I'll concede that some angles look better than others.

3 peat never been done...perhaps the Bills hoist the Lombardi next year. If they do I'll be rooting for the Bills and Josh Allen all the way. Also...I am not a poster at Chiefs planet...that place is awful. It's mostly Chiefs"fans" who are the worst of the bunch...they sort that fit the stereotype....and the type you don't find many of at the games because they can't afford the tickets. I hope your impression of Chiefs fans isn't just based on Chiefs planet. Thanks for the congrats. Hope to see you guys again next post season. Allen is going to get one someday....too good not to.

Some thoughts that you guys didn't ask for, but here they are anyway. 1. I've never heard a Taylor Swift song. I don't know much about her except that she has a bazillion fans and a bunch of them have jumped on the Chiefs bandwagon. If you think this won't be the most watched super bowl in history then you know even less than I do about what an absolute draw Taylor Swift is. 2. Once teams start to enter the dynasty discussion, they become hated. It's not new. Alot of posts here about hating on the Patriots. ME TOO. I got sick of that in short order. I understand the overkill overhype overexposure the Chiefs are getting. I don't blame people who are fatigued by it. I will say, it's really cool being on this side of it. 3. Obviously I am a biased homer, but I think KC wins this 31-17. The 49ers have been VERY SHAKY in eeking out playoff wins that that the other teams could have taken. Brock Purdy hasn't played well but he's been good in moments....but those moments have only come to even exist becasue Detroit and Green Bay let oppertunities literally bounce off helmets and/or slip through their hands. ...and those teams aren't good defensively. Purdy has been AWFUL when he's had to play stout D's. Baltimore shredded them. Cleveland gave Purdy fits. San Fran likes to run a bunch of motion. KC just counters that by switching up their look right after the oppsoing team motions. For those watching...pay attention to the niners pre snap motion, then once they've move, watch KC change their front/alignment etc. Also, the niners D has NOT been good...the 2019 version KC beat was far superior to his one. The 49ers kicker isn't good and isn't equal to this task. He'll miss a kick. 4. I am leaning FULL ON into this swifty consipiracy theory (sort of) I got a three leg parlay that has Kelce OVER 1.5 TD. Purdy OVER 1.5 INTS and Jerrick McKinnon anytime TD. 100 pays 25k. ....McKinnon HAD BEEN a long shot to play due to core surgery he had on Jan 2nd. He's been activated and I cna't imagine him not playing at this piont since they've taken the step to make him active. He took a knee at the 1 last year when he could have scored a TD in the super bowl. He's 32, and this might be his last game ever...they'll try and get him in the endzone. 5. We are having hot links and chilli dogs.

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Couple things. 1. Britt Ried is currently in prison for the accident that disabled the girl. His money, fame, and celebrity did not keep him from jail. If anyone is wondering, the Chiefs, maybe out of sincere concern for the childs well being, or maybe out of concern for their image....or probably both....are paying for all that childs care, and best I can understand, alot of pain and suffering cash to the family for the rest of the childs life. 2. Perhaps Pat is so calm on a football field and able to navigate adversity in football because it's easier and and escape from his family life. He has a somewhat fruity mom who is a religious MAGA type, a genderfluid douceh canoe brother riding his coat tails. A wife who can be annoying and controversial at times, and alcoholic dad, and now a bunch of swifties He probably can't wait to get to practice and games to get away from his chaotic family life. Probalby not many here familiar with the old adlut swim series "Moral Oral" but this reminds me of the final episode where it shows Moral as an adult and he's turned out to be a well adjusted adult despite all the flawed people who he grew up around. Seems like Mahomes has navigated all this and come out on the other side as a well adjusted, focused, person, able to handle alot of less than optimal goings on around him.

From a KC fan point of view, 13 Seconds has to be the worse loss. - The Bills had no stigma surounding any postseason failures, no monkeys on anyones back yet. They were operating at peak Josh Allen power...a passing and running force, again...not reigned in or governed down. Full throttle. - The Bengals beat the Chiefs the following week but that Bengals team wouldn't have beaten the Bills in an AFCCG in Buffalo that year. KC was up big at the half in that AFCCG and it took Mahomes worst half of football to get that game to OT. Bills would win that game 8/10 times if it were played. - The Rams were one dimensional passing team, and a two star defense (Ramsey and Donald) that could be had be elite teams. I have no doubt that would have been a Bills SB win that year. You could argue that the Niners this year, aren't a particularly great Super Bowl team and that the Bills would have a great shot if they were in it. I wouldn't try and argue otherwise, but I would argue that the Bills AT Ravens would be a difficult game for this years Bills. With the monkey on the back, with the stigma of being a road playoff game, and the Ravens probably being a really tough matchup for the Bills (as they were for everyone this year) If the Bills had gotten past KC, I think the Ravens would have had an easy time with the Bills depleted Bills LB corp. Totally different set up than hosting Cincy in 2021 would have been. The Chiefs were only ONE Mahomes Lombardi in to that point. They'd only been to 3 AFC title games, 2 SB and had only come away with 1 SB title to that point. They weren't ....for lack of a better word...."inevitable" yet. How much different would the landscape be if the Bills had won the "13 seconds" game and went on to win a SB? TOTALLY different. For the near term....all the noise is going to be....can the Bills get to one? Can they win a road playoff game? It could have been......who will have more? Allen or Mahomes? 13 Seconds is worse because that game now compounds any failures that happen since then.

I think the Bills should change coaches...but forgetting that for a minute....the Bills have put together 2 back to back really good draft classes, and even though they have some cap issues to work through this offseason, there is young talent in place. If the Bills can put together another good class, then the window remains wide open. Josh still has plenty of time, but with the cap hits now being big...the draft becomes more important. No reason to think Beane can't get another good class this year. Should be another good WR class. Bills also looking to be in good position to win the east again next year...Miami suffering from CAP issues AND their QB can't lift the play of others around him....he has to have elite WR's, brilliant playcalling etc to have a shot. Good teams are able to stop them. I think they take a step back. The Pats will suck again. And I don't think 41 year old Rodgers has enough left in the tank to make the Jets anything better than a fringe playoff team. The Bills will be right back knocking on the door again next year.

AGREE AGREE! I was hoping the Bills would miss the playoffs completely. BY FAR, they are the toughest out for the Chiefs. It's not close. As a Chiefs fan, the idea the Ravens didn't run enough is annoying. KC was stacking the box and playing a TON of man. They were all in on stopping the run and inviting the Ravens to throw. It was intentional on Spags part and a big reason why they didn't run more. KC has had a top 3 defense all year and all anyone could see was KC's offense struggling to get anything going consistantly all year. The Bills performed well against our D, as KC was trying to force everything short and wait for Josh to get impatient. He performed very well up to the last drive when he seemed to finally want to take some shots....Even in earlier points in the game untimely drops ruined some DIMES. Again....Allen shows up in these games, it's not like he's going 15/28 for 175 and 2 INTS in these things. He's doing all he can at a high level. You have to overcome mistakes sometimes. KC overcame virtually the same mistake VS the Bills. Jacksons throw into tripple coverage was AWFUL. There is some audio of Jackson lamenting how things were going in the game. Really made me think he lacks toughness and leadership skills when things are tough and not quite going his way. Allen doesn't fold like this. Lamar can be stopped with a good defense with the right game plan to bottle him up and make them throw downfield. Allen isn't one dimensional. He's the better player by far.

I thought Allen would be a bust and I wanted the Broncos to draft him badly. thankfully I didn't get my wish. @transplantbillsfan never wavered from his relentless support for Allen and his constant defending of Allen, and his endless posts of data points about Allen growing and developing.

This narrative about Sean being at fault for trading down is wrong. Some Bills fans don't remember or never did know apparently, the circumstances heading into that draft. Pegula hired Sean one Month or so before that draft. He did not fire Doug Whaley the GM, but everyone knew he would be let go after the draft and new GM would be brought in. McDermott is a defense side of the ball coach. Not a QB whisperer or evaluator. He was not going to pick a QB in that draft based off of an outgoing GMs scouting reports and without the input of whoever the new GM would be. He wasn't qualified to make that evaluation on his own and decided to trade out of the pick, wait for a new GM and they could all get on the same page about a QB in 2018....with a whole year together to scout and evaluate and then make a pick. McDermott did the prudent thing and made a trade for some extra ammo that a team needing to churn the roster etc...would need. McDermott (and later Beane) came out of that as well as you possibly could under the circumstances. They got a pro bowl Corner in Tre White and ended up with Allen the next year. You can not make that trade, where Mahomes turns out to be awesome, but still come out of it any better than the Bills did. At any rate...IF there is blame for this, it falls on Terry and Kim for handling the 2017 offseason in a wierd way, hiring a coach late, then keeping the GM onboard for the draft only. McDermott did as well as he could. The Bengals are the team that should be completely lambasted for choosing John Ross at 9...one pick before Mahomes. The Bears...rightfully get some crap about taking Trubisky instead of Mahomes......and the 49ers...since they've done well...also should get pummeld but don't....they needed a QB that year and misevaluated....they took Solomon Thomas. The Browns were all set to take Mahomes at 12 if he fell that far. They had 1/1 that year and also 12 overall. They used 1/1 on Myles Garret. Great player. He isn't a QB. Great DE's don't win titles.

to the tune of Wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald The legend lives on from the Iriquois on down of the big lake they call Erielhonan The lake it is said never gives up her dead When playoffs come with intense emotion With records better than most, the lakes teams could boast That they had strong chances in the post season WIth good rosters on hand, and good game plans They'd always come up short for some reason The Lions usually die before you'd eat your pumpkin pie While watching them play on Thanksgiving When Barry played, they thought they had it made But the regular seasons proved so unforgiving When Campbell came round, they thought they found A winner who'd bite off your kneecap But after winning the first two, everyone knew In San Francisco it was just the same crap The Browns couldn't survive when Elway had "The Drive" And later they'd suffer "the Fumble" Shoetenhiemer moved on but the curse wasn't gone As the Browns would continue to stumble The team moved away but the troubles would stay As the team would become the Ravens The Ravens would win as Cleveland got a team again They're still missing the success they've been craving The Bills got in, four straight times and couldn't win Twice Dallas, the skins, then the kicker Then Allen came, and they thought things would change Because he was bigger, and stronger, and quicker While better than most, and even if they were the host They'd be finished early each season Mahomes and Burrow they'd fight, another kick went wide right Leaving the Mafia searching for reasons