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Perhaps I am trying to straddle a fine line here...I am not trying to defend his charachter. He should have just let this go. It's just a trolling twitter giants fan...but this particluar incident by itself,....isn't much of anything. Giants fan - you suck, your music sucks. Toney. You are ugly and a coward behind a twitter account. Say it to my face next time. .... Doesn't really rank up there with worst things ever. Again..I don't condone this stuff and would rather he not be engaging in it or using the language he does. I also know alot of football players come from backgrounds and cultures where this is the norm. I'll take a 65 yard punt return in the SB and his talent at making folks miss...in exchange for putting up with immature twitter exchanges. This event in and of itself....is not a big deal.

no, not at all. I don't have a high opinion of Toney's charachter. But when a guy just disputes another fan and trash talks..this is what constitutes a scumbag? more or less he's just telling the person they are wrong, and to go F off. Not great, but what is there to it other than Toney should know better than to let some random fan get under his skin?

please pointout the what about this makes him a scumbag.

....this isn't a big deal.... Toney shouldn't be engaging with these people, but this is a big nothing. The 3rd and 6th KC gave up for a guy on a rookie deal and who KC hasn't invested any new money into, already paid for itself with his performance in the SB. IF anything, maybe this, and few more of these out of sorts outbursts and KC can save a few bucks at the negotiating table when the time comes.

I like this..... I'll add - Drew Lock is traded to the Packers. Jordan Love will be bad and the Packers liked Lock in that draft before Denver traded up in front of them to take him. Lock establishes himself as the Packer starter by seasons end.

Also.... <homer mode engaged> Chiefs go 15-2, host another AFCCG and go on to win SB again vs 49ers. The Chiefs and Niners as a SB isn't bold...but 15-2 ....that's not eactly the 11.5 Vegas has for the O/U. (KC loses to Miami in Germany, and then having secured the 1 seed, rests players for week 18 VS the Raiders and lose that)

fortunately, through the power of the world wide interwebs, I dont' have to be in bar in Rochester...(but that would be cool) First...let's remember these are supposed to be BOLD..... 1. Washington makes the playoffs. IMO, the NFC is very weak, and even with two of the best NFC teams in their division (Dallas and Philly) the Commanders still have a pretty favorable schedule, from finsihing las in the division last season, even though they were basically .500. They have what I consider a strong D...and I know Sam Howell was a 5th round draft pick and is unproven, but he was on a 1st round trajectory for a lot of his college career and I like Eric Bienemy having a shot to instill some zeal in the commander offense. I think the Giants overachieved by A LOT last season...and are due for a step back this year. Given the very weak field and schedule...I can see a path to the playoffs here that will surprise folks. Keep in mind...there are always a couple teams from year to year no one has playoff expectations for, that rise up. The Giants last season....is the Commanders this year. 2. Bengals miss the playoffs. This one...BOLD....is the opposite of the above prediction. The AFC is a guantlet and the AFC NORTH....is the hardest division in football IMO. Baltimore nearly beat, and should have beaten cincy in the playoffs....and they get a healthy, happy Lamar back, with improved targets and an offense that should be more opened up. At any rate, Bmore is a tough out on any given sunday. Pittsburgh managed to have a winning record while suffering injuries and breaking in a new QB....who showed himprovement as the year went on. I think they'll be even more competitive this year with Watt back and Pickett a year seasoned. I think their draft was a home run as well. Cleveland is a pretty good roster...and if Watson can regain any sort of form.....they also will be tough...plus they just always play the Bengals well no matter what lately. That is a true hell for the Bengals to have to emerge out of. Plus playing a 1st place schedule....and continued O line problems....and you'll all see how awful Orlando Brown is to boot. I think the line is WORSE than last year. Not much margin for error. The Bengals surprisingly miss the post season. 3. Saints go 12-5 Not as bold as the first 2...but Saints in a bad NFC...in a bad division overall....with the best QB...and relatively good roster....seems like a chance to make hay. 4. Cardinals go 0-17 Maybe not that bold..they are odds on favorites to land the no.1 overall pick....but I think the roster is rancid enough to enteratain losing all 17 games. I think IF they capture the 1/1 in the draft...they will race to the podium in January and draft a new QB, and move on from Murray. 5. Steelers go 12-5 So...you might say the Steeler have more or less the same hell to endure that the Bengals do...and that's correct, but I think Tomlin is a better coach, and can naviagate the division and a somewhat easier schedule. Tomlin can win tough division games. I think with an ascending QB and roster, they surprise.

Washington Commanders make the playoffs. The Bengals miss the playoffs. Saints go 12-5 Cardinals go 0-17 Steelers go 12-5

Oh please football Gods let it happen....I'd love to see another 2018 type season on offense.

I know the Bills saw some of this too...but teams just played a ton of cover 2 shell VS the Chiefs this past year...dropped 7 or 8 into coverage. ....Andy Ried really preferes that the ball go to a player who is open and alot of the play calls are designed to get a guy open. KC doens't throw "contested catch" type stuff if they can help it. Never run that corner fad in the red zone for example... part of that is because KC lacks a jump ball type WR....and part of it is KC likes to use speed and if teams give you short...KC takes short.

1. My intent isn't to make this thread a Mahomes thread. 2. I would bet money that if Diggs isn't on this roster in 2023, the Bills offense keeps on truckin'. 3. If you want to argue about the O line.....I will listen to that argument. 4. I am sticking to my point. Allen is an elite NFL QB and does not need an elite WR 1. I would argue he and the Bills would be better off with a deep group of good WR. 5. Joe Burrow has a bad line and elite WR's 3 deep. They were 12th in yards per play. KC was 1 and Bills were 2. 6. The Bills were 6th in NY/A KC was 1. Cincy was 8. The Bills had nearly the same amount of passing yards on 36 fewer attempts. The guy who needs the elite WR's is Burrow, not Allen.

My point isn't an argument for Mahomes.....it's an argument that Allen has reached a point at which you don't need to suffer a high priced diva WR to have a high powered, productive offense. I post this about Mahomes, not to boast, but to illustrate that KC has reached a point in Mahomes development where he also doesn't need elite divas and is free to deliver a ball where it should go, and not worry about making sure WR X gets his stats. Some argue here that Mahomes has Kelce and so the arguement doens't apply....I just threw this up to point out that while Kelce is awesome, Mahomes picks and chooses where to put that ball without considering that Kelce or anyone else gets numbers. The entire point of this post from start to finish is that Allen and the Bills would be better off at this point, without the drama of a Diggs...and that Allen is able to lead a high powered offense with lower priced, "good" WR.....I use the term low self esteem jokingly, but guys who are good players not elite, not expensive and not thin skinned complainers. There was a time when it was a plus to add Diggs. I believe he really did help the team and Allen develop...and if the drama and price tag weren't so high...Diggs would still be a great piece. At this point...when you have a QB the caliber of Allen. Diggs isn't worth the cost in money and he isn't worth having in your locker room.

I wanted to throw this in the mix. The first tweet is Mahomes conversion rate on 3rd and 5 or more. ......but the kicker is the following tweet and stat where he would have still been 2nd in the NFL if you only count throws to any but Kelce.

Wow...those are really good. I like everything about those except the "sleeve" stripes. Big pet peeve of mine on any modern uniform is putting stripes on the side of the armhole...but other than that...those are awesome!

I sorta am one. The Bills are the team I root for when they aren't playing KC. This place and Josh Allen made me a fan.

I get bored at work and sometimes I kill time messing around with MS paint. Today, during a very dull 12 hour shift...I came up with these. 1. I am not a professional artist. 2. I only know how to use MS paint, not photoshop etc. 3. You all know I'm a Chiefs fan. I am not trying to bag on your current uniforms. The Bills have good uniforms as is. 4. I tried not to stray too far from elements that make the Bills brand what it is, but they are different. I am sure MOST of you will pan these, but whatever. I'm here for the comments and criticisms etc. What I have here - Blue helmet with a red buffalo and blue streak. I always liked the red standing buffalo logo. I tried this on a white helmet and thought it looked better in blue. Added a secondary buffalo head logo, which I placed on the shoulder sides, and eliminated the sleeve striping. Went with a slightly different font for the nubmers...and while this isn't traditional block font, it's not a whole lot different, but just a bit more modern and less generic than block. went with a non contiguous two-tone pants stripe. The white pants have red and blue striping, and the blue pants have red and white striping. Added an AFL original member patch to the upper left side of the jersey with "RW" initials on the football in honor of Ralph WIlson.

If you look at those seasons, Rodgers threw to Adams 169 times in 2020 and 149 times in 2021. the next most targeted guys. In those same 2 seasons, Tyreek Hill was targeted 135 and 159 times. When Mahomes lost Hill, he efficiently was able to distribute those lost targets to other players. He actually had a career high comp% last season, without Hill. as well as higher Y/A and YPG. His QBR was up from 62 to 77, his QB Rating was up from 98.5 to 105. NONE of Mahomes metrics got worse....they all got better after losing Tyreek Hill, who he threw to more than anyone on the team. He threw for over 500 MORE yards, 4 MORE TD's One fewer INT.... When Rodgers lost his leading WR (Adams) ....all his metric got worse.... And so you might say that doesn't account for Kelce being gone....Rodger didn't have a Kelce. We won't know for sure what Mahomes will do once Kelce declines/retires....but based on losing a top 5 WR and all those targets....Mahomes didn't have any trouble adjusting and distributing. I'm confident that Mahomes will continue to play at a very high level. I believe Allen is that same kind of player at this point. If Diggs got hurt, holds out etc....Allen is going to deliver big plays, and get the ball into the right place at the right time most of the time.

56 years worth. But I think what you are asking is how many times has there actually been a HC and starting QB together 5 years or more and didn't win it. Andy Ried and Donovan McNabb Dan Reeves and John Elway Sam Wyche and Boomer Esiason Marv Levy and Jim Kelly Mike Smith and Matt Ryan Ron Rivera and Cam Newton Andy Ried and Alex Smith Jeff Fisher and McNair Don Shula and Dan Marino Marvin Lewis and Andy Dalton Chuck Pagano and Andrew Luck Bruce Arians and Carson Palmer Of the 31 head coaches to win at least one Super Bowl, 27 of them won their first championship within the first five seasons with that team. Only Chuck Noll (six years in Pittsburgh), John Madden (eight years in Oakland), Tom Landry (12 years in Dallas), Bill Cowher (14 years in Pittsburgh) and Andy Ried (7 years in KC) needed more than five years to capture that elusive first ring. Only 4 coaches and QB tandems got their fist SB win exactly 5 years in John Harbaugh and Joe Flacco Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning Mike Holmgren and Brett Favre Chuck Noll and Terry Bradshaw

No team in NFL history has ever started the same QB under the same head coach for more than 5 seasons and win their first Super Bowl after that 5th season. 2023 will be Sean McDermott and Josh Allen’s 6th season together.

Since you ask...I think the Bills are RIGHT THERE to be a contender again for the SB. I consider the Bills the biggest obstacle for KC to get back...and there is no reason why the Bills shouldn't be considered a favorite again this year. I do think the Bills season, that got off to such a great start, got derailed by having to deal with so much emotionally. Von getting hurt also seemed to take some of the wind out of the sails. But....the main point was, and still is....to emphasize Josh Allen has become the elite QB that does not need to depend on star WR/TE/RB at this point. Trading for Diggs at the time, was a great move. It clearly helped....and Diggs reamains an elite WR that will still be a great player.....but Allen doesn't need that now. You can put "good" WR's around Allen, and Allen is going to make plays, get the ball to the optimal target, etc. I see some have mentioned Kelce as the reason Mahomes was able to shine with no Hill and a hodge podge of WR's. It's a fair point. I would say that at this point, Mahomes is at a level where when Kelce declines/retires....Mahomes is going to make plays and find the optimal throw. When you have a QB who facilitates the offense efficiently, makes plays, and one who you have confidence in to deliver the ball to the best spot play after play...the need for a highly paid, WR1, is diminished. And....might even be better off for the whole team if you don't have a WR who demands X throws his way....even if those aren't always the most efficient or best options play to play. At this point, I'd trust Allen to be every bit as good or better than he's been if you changed out Diggs for someone like .....Allen Robinson.....or Darnell Mooney.......JuJu....and so on. All this of course is just my opinion....but IMO...Bills would be better off (at this point or soon) spending less at WR...and more on Oline and D. Allen is that QB that will operate well and elevate the WR's out there. Get him the best line money can by and spend the rest on D, where Allen can't directly impact performance.

I stand by this now as much as I did back in April. (and no, this was not an April Fool's joke)

Regarding Jones: He wants an extension. He is going into the final year of his current deal. he's 29, but he keeps himself in EXCELLENT shap..and his body type is one that lasts more than some other DT's. Jones is 6'5 295. He's lean and ripped. Alot like Reggie White type of body. It should last for a while longer. ...he's also commented many times that he wants to be a Chief for life. Last time Jones was due for an extension, this is exactly what happend then as well. He'll hold out...but really he's waiting on Quennin Williams to get done so when he signs his deal,,,it won't be surpassed for a while. Williams is the other DT due an extension of many this offseason that hasn't signed yet. The salary cap isn't the problem in this case for the Chiefs....actually getting an extension done on Jones will give them some cap relief as they'll suddenly have years of room to kick money into. KC will do it, but they are always reluctant to put out the CASH. Anyhow. Jones loves KC, wants to retire a Chief....he's just using the only leverage he has to push. No one in KC is wondering what's up.

I always admired Marv Levy...thought he was a really good FB coach....I remember one of the Bills/Cowboys superbowl years....somehow the topic got onto the Cowboys being "Americas Team" and Levy took exception to that for some reason...and retorted that the Bills were actually Americas team because they were "red white and blue". .....it was kind of cringe.... it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things and also, being Red White and Blue doens't automatically make you anything except red white and blue.

I watch the Grossi videos....they are kind of silly for lack of a better word...but they aren't bad. He is a serious Packers fan. One I like to watch quite a bit is Brandon Perna. Broncos fan that puts out a lot of Broncos and NFL content that is pretty good.

I do believe it. I think they WERE...as in past tense...after him until OBJ signed for 15 mil. That killed any shot KC had.