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Same here. Makes too much sense.

Good God do I love the NFL draft!

Been thinking this for a few weeks. They may move up to #1 for Murray. But the one that makes the most sense to me is moving up to #2 to take Bosa, 49ers move down to #4 and take Devin White.

They better alter their expectations or pay the guy. Chandler Jones netted the Pats a late 2nd round pick, at the same age Clark is now with roughly the same output. The Bears killed the market for a trade like this last year. If Beane can get Clark for a 2nd or 3rd, I'd say go for it. Leave the 1st out of the discussions.

Love his work ethic. From what I remember that was never a question. My issue with him remains his pass blocking. He screams guard to me but I've been plenty wrong before.

I honestly think the Jets are full of garbage when it comes to Ed Oliver. They are transitioning to a 4-3 defense with no edge rushers on their roster. I find the story that they are trying to trade down a hell of a lot more likely. That said, I truly hope Beane sticks to his MO and doesnt overplay his hand. I think there are 3 guys along the DLine who I'd consider pretty safe prospects, Oliver, Williams, and Bosa. At this point you probably need to move up to 4 to get any of them, but I'd be extremely torn on giving up a 2nd to do that. Especially given the history of the Bills moving up to number 4 overall.

Maybe they plan to trade up for Murray and don't want anyone to know.

In comparison with Spectrum, DirectTV customer service is incredible. I've never had an issue. The prices are pretty tough sometimes, but they have worked with me quite a bit. I had Sunday Ticket two years ago and liked it, but not enough to keep paying for it. However, if the NFL Network goes I really have no reason to keep it.

That was the one. 56-10.

2007.

I just got done with reading about pattern matching in The Art of Smart Football. Very smart way to stop west coast offenses. It's incredible how little credit we give people involved with football in terms of their intelligence. My brain literally started to hurt trying to follow some of what Dick LeBeau did with Bill Arnsparger's zone blitz concepts.

Because it's not loaded with defensive ends past the 1st round. And even then the 1st round guys all have major questions. I would always take the known over the unknown. And, guys like Josh Allen, Montez Sweat, and Clelin Ferrell may have a hard time getting anywhere near Clowney in the league.

Fast and dangerous with the ball. I would say he needs to get better in the hands department though.

Agree. His hands are insane. I just don't like how it ends up for him when lineman get their hands on him. Everyone has bad games but Georgia got after him pretty good.

Absolutely loved him with the Jets. Thats what I see when I watch Williams. I don't think he gives you as much flexibility as Oliver, but I also don't think he is Dareus.

You're correct. My bad there, I meant to say 5 tech. Which I believe is what Wilkerson played in the Jets defense.

I dont think the scheme held him back because the scheme basically showed he can play any position in the front four. It also showed he can drop as an OLB if you really need him to. I also dont buy he somehow underachieved in college. There is this weird perception his numbers werent as good as they could have been. He has some of the best per game run stuffing numbers of any Defensive Tackle to come out in the last 5-7 years, that includes Donald. The issue I think Oliver runs into is everyone see's his frame and thinks Aaron Donald and wonders why he didnt have the pass rushing numbers Donald did at Pitt, which is an insane expectation to put on any player. Oliver may not be Donald, but who is? Whoever gets Oliver will get a very good 3 technique who can be used as an edge rusher on passing downs.

Using draftek's rankings with a slight position twist: 1- Ed Oliver, DT 2- Irv Smith Jr. TE 3- Devin Singletary- RB 4- Austin Bryant- DE 4- Deebo Samuel- WR 5- Te'von Coney- LB 5- Myles Gaskin- RB 6- Wyatt Ray- DE 7- Malik Gant- S 7- Dawson Knox- TE

I feel like we are comparing a wide variety of vastly different players. Dareus is a more compact player which gave him the ability to play in two gap schemes, but he was also athletic enough to play one gap. However, he probably isn't ever going to give you the ability to use him in a 3-4 as a 3 tech. From the tape I watched on Williams he was asked to get up the field a lot, he did take on double teams but he wasnt a traditional 2 gap space eater by any means. He has scheme versatility in the fact he can probably play 3 tech in a 3-4 defense, or play inside in a one gap 4-3 scheme. I think Dareus is a bad comparison, feel like Muhammed Wilkerson is probably more accurate. He has amazing hands, just incredible to watch how effortless it is for him to shed blocks without allowing the guards and centers to get into his body. But he can be inconsistent, watch the Georgia game where their big dogs ate his lunch. That game made me a big fan of Georgia's center Lamont Gaillard. Oliver is a different sort of player altogether. The numbers may not be there, but he played everywhere on that defense. Despite his size Houston used him as 1 tech to eat up blockers which he did effectively. They used him inside as a 3 tech. They even used him as a edge rusher. That is why he is so unique. He can effectively play any position in your front seven given the need, and yes he also dropped as an outside linebacker on some plays. He can get overwhelmed physically when he doesn't use proper leverage, but when you talk about scheme versatility he is about as good as it gets in this draft. I wonder what his production would look like in a scheme where he is allowed to play 3 tech on 1st/2nd down, and then moved to edge on obvious passing downs. His get off is about as good as it gets.

Sounds like a job well Tim. Enjoy the afterlife! Just dont forget the Beer and Ice.

Bennie Anderson may have something to say about this.

This looks like the unlicensed garbage you'd find at the fair or a flea market. Truly one of the worst Bills hats I've ever seen.

I am not sure that isn't exactly how it went. He and his agent had a pretty good routine going for two or three days until the Jets said sign or we are out of it. He was trying hard to get the money he lost last year. Still think he was getting terrible advice.

Agent ploy. Pretty sure the Jets were the only team in on Bell and at that point they were competing against themselves.

I don't think Gary is going to be a defensive tackle in the league. He may have position flexibility, but he lacks one of the things McDermott looks for and thats production. He is a freak athlete, but I am not sure he is what they are looking for. I dont feel like Lindstrom makes it to #40. Much rather stay at #9 and take Ed Oliver and then draft Irv Smith in the second.