Mat68

Probably can move Denver into the 3 way trade sphere if you wanted 1. cleveland 2. buffalo 3 NYJ 4 Cleveland 5 NYG Seems cheeper than just going for 2 from 12.

Allen has the most ability. I would move up to 2 for him.

As a prospect he has the most ability. As a passer his numbers are just as prolific as Rosen. Rosen is considered the best natural passer in the draft. He had a better career running the football than Saquan Barkley, more yards, TDs, higher ypc. Barkley is the consensus #1 player. The agent part is a concern. Though with the rookie wage scale I understand the thinking. Day 1 he will be electric. Will he put the time and personal investment into becoming great? Idk him and keeping 22 makes alot of sense to me.

If he had 2 hands there would be talk of him being a late first. I would draft him in the second and he would be my will. He was the best player on the field in the peach bowl vs Auburn.

A much as I am wanting them to move up to 2 or 4, the closer we get to the draft more I think they move to 6 or 7. They keep 22 and get a qb. Which ever one falls they go for. If Rosen gets past Denver I think that he is the target and i think its likely it happens. I dont know if there has been any contact but Jackson around 9 wouldn't be terrible as well. Played in a similar design of offense so the reads and plays structure wouldn't be a big adjust for him. Exciting to see what they do. All the top guys have some issues. If they get 1 of the top 5 qbs I would be happy. I think it could make sense to get the Qb that makes it out of the top 5. The cost would much less and Buffalo could still get a good player at 22.

Manziel plays Qb the same way Michael Vick did. The difference is every time Vick stepped onto the field he was the best or one of the best athletes on the field. Manziel is not special in any shape or form. Manziel doesnt miss football, he misses what football brought to him. He misses fame.

Every game they play the camera will zoom on him kneeling. There will be national media fueling the story the beat writers will ask Football questions the CNN ESPN and other national media outlets will ask the non football questions and will as long as half the country doesnt like it.

First and last sentence I said back up Qb. If Colin wants to play football ever again, he will need to sign onto a team and be a non story. He isnt good enough to carry the kneeling controversy everywhere he goes the rest of his career.

Yes Kaepernic would not play a single snap. After every game Pete Carrol's first question will be, how do you feel about Colins kneeling? The media circus is not worth it for a player that is noting more than an insurance policy to Russell Wilson.

Why would Seattle want to answer questions after every game about the back up QB who didnt play? Does he want to be a justice warrior or play football? Personally, his kneeling has no affect on me. It does not bother me in the slightest. However, when you start something like that and has now cut down party lines there is some accountability and consequence for your media whirlwind that follows. Its a multi billion dollar industry that makes there living and money off advertisements and public viewership. If those actions results in 1 fan not watching or one advertiser to drop out that has now cost the organization money. No team wants to have a media circus following them to every city and every game because of there backup QB.

So if Allen becomes a franchise Qb and Mayfield does not, does analytics in football die?

Most be on one of 8 teams not asked ?

Revisionist history. No one was higher on Ryan than they currently are on Rosen.

No he is not. 3 of the Qbs in this class would be rated higher then anyone in last years class.

I dont believe that. Could be wrong but they would have the ability to manuever all around this draft for the guy they like. A highly rated player will be there at 12. i could see nelson sliding. I could see them trading ODB to move into the top 10. Alot of ifs but that is what i believe.

Sam Cowart, Pat Williams, Marcel Dareus, Takeo spikes, London Fletcher were all first or second team all pros where has that gotten Buffalo? Buffalo has never drafted a Qb inside of the top 10. I believe that is a strong correlation why Buffalo has had 1 franchise Qb in its history. There are 5 guys who are 90 plus rated Qb prospects. By most accounts this is the strongest Qb class in terms of Talent and production in some time. Buffalo has 6 picks in the first 3 rounds. At 12 they are in striking distance of getting their top rated Qb. Why would anyone be against doing so? The strength of this draft is in rds 2 and 3 an 4. By trading half or 2/3 of the picks they can get a franchise Qb for the first time since Kelly. Even if they dont turn out to be as good they are at that same level of potential. Plus add a starter in rd 2 and rd 3, while retain the remaining mid to late rd picks? It makes complete sense.

Could he bust? Sure as could Rosen, Darnold, Mayfield, or Jackson. Its pretty obvious to me why he is in consideration for 1. His strengths are higher than any other prospects. His weakness are there. Are those coach able areas where they could be limited. I do. Can Mayfield succeed in a dirty pocket and tight window throws? Can Rosen absorb NFL punishment with his injury history? Can Darnold improve his ball security? Can Jackson improve his lower body mechanics and pocket awareness. They all have some work to do. Who have the most room to grow? Who could become Great? Rare year.

Lead the league in catches 4th in Tds. He is 5th in money seems about right when Julio and Becham will reup soon.

Best slot reciever of all time averaged 10. Landry is doing that with spotty qbs. Landry is not top 5 right now but he is better than Watkins, and you cant name 10 wrs more productive than him.

That was playing with Matt Moore and Jay Cutler. Career he is over 10 YPC and very similar to Welker in his prime in that department.

I would really not like having Bill and Mcdaniels developing Jackson behind Brady for 2 years. Then Brady retires and they go all in on Jackson with the RPO offense.

Does it matter where he is lined up if he catches 100 passes a year no matter who his Qb is?

Very simple, the last time Wyoming was bowl eligible in back to back seasons prior to the 2 seasons Josh Allen quarterbacked was 88 89 season. They are a bottom feeder program in the Mountain West Conference and ranked in 120's in NCAA rank prior to the 2016 season. His Sophomore season the majority of the offense were Seniors and he put up good numbers. Wyoming does not recruit well so they rely on players getting on the field and improving before they would at other schools. This past year he played with mainly Sophomores and it has showed. However, the offense he played in did not help him as a passer in regards to his passing efficiency. He played in an offense out of the mid 90s to early 2000's big ten. Not much creativity and alot of the big plays were on Allen to make with his arm and ability. He has the most impressive tape by having the most NFL caliber throws. There is no doubt if he can translate to an NFL offense because he has made the prerequisite passes already. Imo a lot of his accuracy issues is when he tries too much. With his arm strength he would attempt throws from horrible platforms. He could be Kyle Boller but the game has changed so much since then. If he continues to utilize a personal Qb coach and improves his mechanics to a point where its automatic sky is the limit. High end his ceiling is Brett Farve. I see him very similar in terms of football IQ and natural ability. He will throw interceptions because of his arm will get him into trouble at times. Low end jeff george. If he does not master the mechanics of throwing his accuracy concern will pop up through his career. Imo if he doesn't develop a substance abuse problem he will have a long career do to his immense ability and athleticism, but a what if story. With the level of Qbs in the NFL at worst he will be on a roster for as long as he wants to play similar to Jeff George.

I think Landry is very underrated. Extremely productive and has fantastic hands. Good for Cleveland.

22 is still better than 53,56. You have a higher probability of selecting the player you like at 22 than at 33. With the amount of Qbs that are getting drafted in rd 1 there will be talented guys at 22. Or Buffalo keeps the crappy 22 pick and trades both 2s and 3s picks up an extra 4th.