Mat68

This is the worst part of "Scout speak". Round grades mean nothing. There is not value at picking a QB 3 or 56. If they become a franchise caliber starter in the NFL they are worth the 1st pick. Value means nothing if you like the player and they produce and are effective in the NFL they are worth the pick or possibly higher. Matt Malano would have been perceived as a reach if he was drafted in the 3rd though his play this past year would have justified it.

Size and arm. Cam was not a slam dunk prospect. Hindsight 20/20 now. Many questiined his ability to win in the pocket in the NFL.

No duh the Patriots are drafting a QB. That was the instructions from Kraft to Bill after trading Garapolo. This was leaked in November.

Draft picks overrated. The best players on the team Geoff, Gurley, Donald all top 10 picks of the franchise. Sure FA can help and trade as well but the foundation of the LA Rams has been drafted by them.

You are right. I think the thing with Allen that makes teams optimistic is that he is not some well oiled Qb. He is not an elite 11 Qb prospect that has gone to every QB camp since he was 12. Allen appears to be a natural talent. Working with Palmer he is learning and being taught how to make different throws, and why your feet is tied to accuracy. This in the end is all about ego and potential. The ego is that of the coaches. The potential is simply, watch Allen's best 50 throws. Those are by far the best in the class. A coach will have his staff get Allen to do that all the time. None of the Qbs are slam dunks most evaluators are going to give the coaches the guy with the most ability, it the coaches job to get that out of him.

Buffalo has the draft picks to pull off a trade for Allen who has the best arm in this draft, and maybe in 20 years. Pretty much the way people have talked for the last 30 years.

Draft night. If Cleveland announces their pick before hand I could see something happen before the giants are on the clock. The cost of moving up Buffalo will have it that this is their guy.

Why? Mcdermott imo didnt feel confident in his scout department and staff. He obviously was aware that Whaley was a lame duck GM. The complete overhaul of the whole scouting department would not have happened or would have looked foolish if Buffalo takes a QB in the first.

The double trade could happen. I expect it would happen at the same time. Imo how highly do they think of Jackson. They could stay close to 12 flop a third move up slightly and keep most of the picks.. maybe Rosen slides. If that happens imo Buffalo would be a player. Too many ways it can play out still. Cleveland than NYG sets the scene for how it goes. Buffalo could move up anywhere. Will be the most exciting draft in awhile.

Mora is the last person anyone wants to hear about selfentitledment. Mr if my last name wasnt Mora I wouldnt have gotten a job.

There is not way of knowing if Gettleman would take a QB at 2. I believe Gettleman is just drumming up the price for 2. They will want a ransom or they will take Darnold. They hold all the cards here. Until the Giants are on the clock the price wont reach its largest figure. The next guess is who does the Giants value positional wise? Chubb, Nelson? Maybe Buffalo trades up for either of those guys and trade the players once they know you have their guy. There is many outcomes but i do not expect them to playout until they are on the clock and there is no doubt who is available. PR wise Beane is going to wait for the draft to trade so they can say we moved up for x player and x player only.

The browns missed out on Wentz and they are going to draft Allen because of his potential. Not a big surprise here. Curious to see what Buffalo does and who they value most.

So does NYG and Buffalo both want Darnold? Is Gettleman just playing the game to get Beane to pay a lot for him. If Darnold is on the board at 2 I could see Buffalo making an offer Gettleman could not refuse. Darnold would come in and most likely beat out Mcarron and I think he will do great things for the franchise.

Who is the last qb that was good who wore a head band?

The ones where Buffalo ends up with one of the top 5 qb makes me happy. If Buffalo doesnt trade or pick a qb at 12 i would question everybody in charge.

Each is entitled to their own opinion. If Buffalo stays at 12 and they miss out on the top 5 Qbs I will lose a lot of the early favor Beane has brought with him. Buffalo has not had a Franchise qb at minimum since Bledsoe. He was already on the down side of his career. The last Qb drafted and was a franchise Qb was taken over 30 years ago. in modern day football Buffalo has never draft a QB within the first 10 picks. That correlates to why Buffalo has had 1 franchise Qb. I dont really care it its 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 go get the guy you have faith in and get the franchsie going towards a contender not a middling team looking to back into a wildcard spot.

Any Qb you draft is a scratch of ticket. There are no guarantees. If you are making the gamble wouldnt you go with the one with the largest payout?

When I watch Allen's games I do not see an erratic thrower of the football. He makes a handful of NFL level throws every game and puts them on the money. Throws the other prospect have not and some can not make. He is a once a generation talent. He is not a finish product. He also seems to have improved the areas in his footwork that at times made him throw inaccurate when he was not in balance. Same can be said about footwork with every prospect not named Rosen. Imo Beane will see a Newton caliber of athlete and potential. If Allen does not go 1 that is the guy they will move up for. There is a chance Rosen or Mayfeild will be there at 4 and would come at a fraction of the price of 2. When you are forgoing multiple prospects for a QB if they have all the tools and are the type of prospect that come around once every 7 years years interns of ability and potential I think that is the type of prospect to take that chance with.

A standardized doesn't measure If Jackson can recognize a coverage. Imo of all the score Jacksons is the only real one. He didnt go to a combine pre draft work out facility to improve his draft stock. He is who he is. Only question I wonder is if he is too near sighted to grasp the larger picture.

The more I think about the more likley I believe Allen would be the guy Beane and co would go all in for. Rare size and ability. A type of Qb who wont be in a draft for 10 years. Hes the guy they go for imo.

Not a chance

He cant really throw outside the numbers with any accuracy. Im concerned about his arm strength more so than any other qb. The reason Allen is so highly thought of is his money throw is an out. Every game he throws lazers to the sticks from the far hash on the money. Thats the hardest/ riskiest throw in football. Thats takes pro level anticipation and accuracy for it not to be a pick 6. That is a throw Rudolph stuggles with, even near side.

Not the biggest, not strongest, not the best athlete, not the strongest arm, not the most upside. He is just the most technical and hes has some injury history. I think he is the surest thing if he avoids injury.

Having his mother as his agent will cost him more money then the actual cost of hiring an agent.