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More or less the angel like defense that normally existed for McD has transitioned to at least some critical moments which is big. I cannot remember since he took over that happening.

The messaging coming from OBD has 100% shifted and it is noticeable.

Yep. I am really against moving from GMs who do a good job which Beane has done. The biggest mistakes and blunders are coaching not player talent or depth. He has had his misses as Knox contract and Von are looking bad, but overall you want your GM to find starters and have the cap in a workable position which he has been doing. This offseason for Beane is big though as I have mentioned on here he will have 9 picks, the ability to open 40-50 mil in cap space, and you should expect some long time vets like Poyer and Morse to leave. He has a lot of resources how he chooses to use them will 100% drive where this team goes over the next 5-6 years.

They really did not have much around him though. Switch him and Emmitts teams and he has rings and Emmitt has stats. You could concentrate your defense on stopping him when Scott Mitchell was the QB.

I believe that is actually what got them in the playoff in 2017 was the three way tiebreaker I saw that and did a double take lol Yep he torched it for 75 yards and I jumped through a ceiling. Most intense non playoff game which mattered zilch in the standings.

At this point Josh is what he is and likes the contact. His only injuries though have been from the pocket so idk I don’t worry anymore

There is this fun scenario I stopped giving thought too when the offense fell into straits that basically Von post bye is Von, we get Jones back for the last 2-3 weeks, and basically the team is clicking minus Tre/Milano heading to Miami for the division crown. I still haven't looked at it mentally, but the tab is at least back around haha.

I have ran through NFL playoff simulator enough that Texans and Browns probably are 10-11 wins. WC7 though PIT probably only gets to 9 wins and LAC that is about their max. Unless you really believe that the Colts can get to 10, because of the Bengals losing Burrow the margin line I think is back to 10 wins. But yea the tiebreakers are no bueno for Buffalo if you are stuck at 9 or tied at 10.

I think it depends on if Tre will restructure his contract. Morse I def think is gone and a draft target, they can open something like 40-50 mil by a few restructures and cuts. I think they want to get younger across the board and it has to be encouraging that guys like Benford, Bernard, Torrence, Kincaid, & Cook have all stepped up this year. They are part of the next core that comes as twilight hits for guys like Poyer, Morse, and Tre. Milano as long as he heals ok should have a few more years, but I expect some favorite faces to be gone entering 24' which is sad but exciting in terms of new opportunity. I thought from NE on he was fine. Knee injuries suck all around and the AP recovery is not normal nor should it be expected. Part of my point truthfully is this guy was paid to be an impact performer and crappy circumstances took a great player and we currently have basic. Not his fault and the recovery is what it is like you said. It laemens terms I am frustrated and life isn't fair haha.

Agreed to an extent. The Jets defense is superb and their ability to keep their team in games week in week out cannot be discounted. Buffalo gets props for putting 30+ on them when no one else has and putting the game out of reach quickly. Unlike week 1 where Josh singlehandidly kept them in it, yesterday he made it a non issue. That counts to me. BUT yea lets see the offense string 3-4 games of solid consistent play together. Do that and you have my faith for real.

I would say for the Bills it is even worse as the Jets at least lost a very good QB for the year. In Buffalo's case we have a QB again putting up MVP caliber numbers and we still have misfired then.

I would have rather he just was kept on PUP until bye then. They could've used his spot for a player fully able to play that can do more. It legitimately impacted their games like CIN when he is not his full self and misses plays. I don't disagree on player recovery and they need live bullets, but I thought how Tre came back honestly was a better approach.

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My general rule of thumb is to not comment to much until 24 hrs pass after a game because the feeling can be too raw good or bad. Enough time has past and were 23 hrs later so close enough, this is some things I feel after this game: 1. The offense looked cleaner and played with more of a purpose in terms of play design. My general feeling with Dorsey grew that it became too vanilla and too much hinged on one or two things per play putting a lot of pressure on Josh to be perfect which is why I felt he looked off as time progressed. After the Packer/Jets mid season games it seemed like defenses had figured out that Buffalo played a very basic package that was predictable. Doesn't mean the offense did not have success as the numbers show, but from poor play designs, to times you really felt like at home you knew what was coming, or just play calls coming in late things felt off more often then not and it was Josh being a hero. It is only one game, but everything people said about Brady as an OC seemed evident as they played far looser and crisper then we have seen in a long time. The mesh design on the Cook TD was beautiful and something you didn't get with Dorsey. I am forgetting the name of the reporter but Buffalo used motion on 19 plays the highest they have since 2019. The middle of the field was actually worked as Shakir and Kincaid just ate the Jets middle which they needed to do as the Jets did cover Diggs and Davis well. Again one game, but the change in approach was noticeable. 2. With all of that said a few bounces finally just went Buffalo's way. From the opening fumble on it was a day which things finally went Buffalo's direction and they were due for some breaks as the last few weeks regardless of opinion on the offense their luck was crap across the board. Even the beautiful play by Allen to beat Gardner and connect with Shakir had a feeling of finally as the amount of tipped passes by defenders had gotten annoying. Only Josh can make that throw and what a throw it was, but finally a defender also didn't have there play of the damn year against us. 3. Someday a book will explained why Josh in a year and half of Dorsey as coordinator went from a happy golden retriever to a low positive guy looking for his volleyball at sea. Maybe finally the Bills had the hammer from the start and it is always easier or Dorsey being fired got Josh rezoned. Not sure what it is, but maybe just maybe letting your Demi God of a QB do a QB draw and have some fun which he enjoys a few times allowed the guy to free up. 4. The Jets wasted a division title caliber defense by never finding another QB. It is trying mind numbing that they were so stuck in playing Wilson they never explored an alternative. Watching Josh Dobbs play competent QB last night had to be beyond aggravating for Jet fans as truthfully I think was just league average QB play they probably win the division this season. Breece Hall had some very nice players yesterday and Garrett Wilson is being wasted over there. Happy them not us but dang. Deep Thought! : Yesterday's 81 yard Shakir TD was the 2nd longest TD of Josh's career. Can you name the 1st and 3rd longest? (NO CHEATING) 5. Douglas is a really really nice player that was acquired basically for the compensation pick the Bills will get for Edmunds. I am 100% fine with cutting Tre White (love him to death but $ is high and two knee injuries no bueno) as next year you can easily roll this as your starting 3 CBs: CB1 Benford CB2 Douglas NCB Johnson I think Poyer may be gone after this year so you will need a new safety soon and Hyde probably has a year left, but the secondary should remain quite talented and stable which is nice. Dane Jackson is fine as the 4th guy out there. 6. Von Miller has to be recovering still he just does not look right. I understand they are aiming for him to hit his stride around KC based off all comments, but it really does feel like he rushed back and isn't there. He has just two tackle since returning and while he is on a pitch count you would like to seem some production. Hopefully he makes me eat my words against PHI and finds his stride, but it really is frustratingly unfortunate as literally until injury he was great last year and now its like we have a lemon at DE were paying big money for. 7. This is the best the defensive line has been since 2014. It really is unfortunate Jones isn't hear to join the fun and Von is at 50%, but regardless they have been a lot of fun to watch over the season and helped to bail out the defense in some games where the rest of the team is hurt or just off. Leonard Floyd has been truly superb with 9.5 sacks already while Epenesa & Oliver both have 6. Groot started hot and again it looks like injury has slowed him, but as a unit they are at 39 sacks and pacing for 60 on the year which would be their highest in team history if they hit it. Granted extra game played now, but even with one less game they would tie the 2014 unit with 57 sacks which is the team record. 8. On a more serious note they got the W which had to happen to keep their playoffs hope going. The tough part is now full center though as 10 wins at this point probably gets you in given the attrition starting in the AFC and lack of playable QBs. But if they truly want to feel better the Bills have to find a way to beat PHI or KC in their house. Neither stadium is an easy place and both teams are superb. But this is the hole they dug for themselves with the bad losses to NYJ/NE that never should have happened. Regardless I feel OK that they can probably take DAL/at LAC/NE for a nice 3 pack of wins, the key to getting some spacing is the next two.

Are there shallow thoughts coming later this week?

Bills 23 Jets 10 Football is stupid and I want a new coach.

They do this every year when there is a the true cover athlete and then for subsequent update/season releases they change it to legends. All marketing to increase sales nothing wild. The game itself will still feature Josh primarily.

This to the max ^ People need to realize WGR is the flagship station and your never going to get strong sweeping takes from most of the people in Sal or Brown or Taskers shoes. It is state radio and the message is controlled in a certain way. If I am not mistaken Brown was even suspended for a week or two for making a relatively light slight about the team last year Overall the entire way sports and media are received is entirely different from the old non/early internet days. Newspaper, radio, even TV use to compete with each other in a triad balance and that was the main way of receiving information. As the internet and social media grew all of this changed to a point it is not as controllable or the main focal point. Some of the best analysis I get is from non brand NFL groups like Cover 1 / Yards Per Pass etc... where they truly break down what is happening and have at least informational backed takes not just bias. Twitter or X whatever it is can give you more analysis then anything the the Bills Show can, so in a sense for the Bills or any team they have to be even more controlled in messaging at this time. I am a big hockey fan and I listen to a lot of podcasts because frankly the content is superb and some of the people are ahead of what most teams are doing in evaluating their own lineup.

Lol my last two losses in person have been DEN and MIN My last two night games had the OC fired the next day. Yet my overall record is way above .500 and I don't have seasons. Nothing makes sense

Honestly props to you if you are still believing and able to positive after all of this.

That is why we didn't keep our seasons after 2016. Cost was no issue as section 143 row 32 was $650 a ticket so for two it was a piece of cake at $1300. But having to come from Rochester broke me when you had 3-4 hr rides home because the traffic and accidents were brutal. We really did love having seasons and you kinda have a different feeling when you go all year and it becomes your section. I have wanted to split seasons since but haven't pressed hard.

His time has come and passed. He still drives the ship and the offense certainly felt his influence this year and in general the team seems to no longer be responding to him. 24' offseason will realistically define what happens to Allen long term in terms of talent around him. He is in the prime of his career and probably has 5-6 good-great years left before hitting 33-34 when QBs really start to slow. They have 9 picks and can open upwards of 40-50 mil in capspace while realistically letting some long term vets leave also. At this point I don't think McD should get another kick at the can with that type of resources to reshape the roster and coach. You can finally get an offensive head coach to see if they can max what Josh does and the offense rather then risking every few years a new OC whether fired or hired elsewhere. All of that mixed with it looks like the program is past its prime and Marvin Lewis esq in terms of ceiling makes me want to do the change when it still is prime.

Yep that is where I am at. For the first time since 2019 I got the feeling maybe Allen won't get the team to a SB and a lot of that is just because we are pissing away another year of his prime.

Honestly I completely agree it was a bad energy, but the moment they fumbled on the first play the air went out of the stadium and energy. Instead it was just here we go AGAIN which is exhausting. Most exciting part of the game for me was my buddy and I breaking up a fight/getting a guy to security who sucker punched someone. Mind you this happened in the 1st quarter so it wasn't like the true bad vibes were out yet.

Eh I think a lot of us after the Pats loss realized who this team was and it just is what it is right now.