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It isn't about the destination, it is about the memories we made together!

why would Benjamin be viewed as a failed trade? An org that had a 17 year playoff drought was able to kill partly because of his contributions that year which in turn lifted the pressure on the team on must win in following years which allowed Josh to properly develop. Yea it would've been nice for KB to be a larger part of the future, but for such a seminal season and moment it was a solid pick that did help move the needle.

They preach culture over names/attitude. That works to an extent, but I feel like the Rams are similar but far more willing to take swings if they believe it pushes them over the edge.

I am convinced he is already dead and we are in a my weekend at bernies type situation with JJ, but they figured out how to make him talk and blink lol

Nice of you to wait so long in helping us get a lombardi lol

Rumor has it they are using lanterns and if you see two in the sky tonight a trade happened, but if only one no trade.

Cook maybe yay or no, could be his last year. Offensive lineman though age far better then other spots. Dawkins also is a franchise staple and I doubt they cut him unless his play implodes.

This wasn't a slight. The post is actually more with just where we are looking good, average, and where we probably need work. Additionally it is nice to see where we have strength and youth. I haven't looked at the cap numbers but they generally try to keep guys who are cost controlled. Williams absolutely is going to be here as he knows the system and at worst is depth at best a starter. Strong who knows unfortunately due to injury. Carter wasn't bad last year and again small cap so he probably stays because of that.

They we redo it again. Anyteam with a top QB will redo it until retirement to keep the window going. You take the pain later. Probably right I missed those comments yesterday. Sucks I loved his play this year.

I like to do this exercise during season once and during the offseason post draft looking at the Bills core/players who should be starters over the foreseeable future which in turn shows the holes they will have. My criteria for this is players who either are starting currently that I would expect will start for the next 4-5 years (reasonably of course) or they are young but showed enough potential/solid play that you should be able to consider them starting in that time frame and contributing regularly. On the flipside a player who is older and realistically probably ages or contract wise will be a cut I will not list like Taron Johnson given the odds he regresses overtime. Offense: QB: Josh Allen (duh) RB: James Cook WR: Khalil Shakir TE: Dalton Kincaid // Jackson Hawes O-Line: Dawkins - Edwards- McGovern-Torrence- Brown Defense: DE: Greg Rousseau DT: Ed Oliver // Deone Walker // TJ Sanders // DeWayne Carter LB: Terrel Bernard // Dorian Williams CB: Christian Benford // Max Hariston // Dorian Strong SAF: Cole Bishop The good news for the offense is that offensive line is young enough where it is realistic to see the same group for years. Will they all actually stay? Probably not, but offensive lineman hold value and skill far longer then other positions and the oldest of the group is actually Dawkins. The TE & RB spot is in a good spot, the problem point is of course WR in a very bad way. Even if Coleman were to miraculously become a top WR they just really lack any youth at that position after him. Beane can say what he wants about the position, but realistically it will need some real investment in the next year or so (if not today). The defense is far more interesting where spots like DT/CB you can feel potentially really good long term about the depth an quality. LB they really need a guy to come in and become a starter long term. SAF if Bishop develops as he has you need one more guy. DE forever feels like the biggest spot that they just cannot get it fully right despite picks. AJ has played quite well for the Bills but I will be stunned if in 2-3 years he is still here, Javon Solomon is too green to make a call on, and Landon Jackson can't get into the lineup at this point. Hopefully with Solomon & Jackson they can become quality starters that help that position out, but if there becomes a time they can ever get a in prime pass rusher it would be a big boost. No team is perfect, Buffalo has Josh which is the biggest thing but the rest of the roster has a lot of good quality starters with some truly good ones. Overall you can see where the strengths are and the defense if the kids keep developing their is the potential for some real dynamite players there. At the same time godbless Milano, Watt, Poyer but you will need to reinforce those areas to keep progressing on D. The offense it feels like the same old song but WR you just need more. Beane with his more recent WR FA signings has missed more then you'd want as Samuels can't stay on the field, Palmer isn't bad but hurt like his record says, Moore is JAG, and Hollis was a fine role player. Assuming no move happens today for an Olave or Waddle or Shaheed, your are looking at needing a more quality WR FA and at least drafting one preferably two WRs in round 1-5 next year.

Like your thoughts and here our mine with some responses to you: 1. The defense- I have said I think when fully healthy the defense especially the defensive line can and should be a force that can alter games. Unfortunately we won't ever see the max potential as with Oliver out and a lot of other guys in and out I just do not see it coming together in the best form. BUT yesterday was proof that with most of their pieces in and the secondary having some confidence/Max finally there they can be decent & the hopes the d-line is a force can be real. I do not need perfection from the defense, next year could be reallllyyy interesting on that side with health and growth from the young guys. BUT if the defense can stay in this form then it makes me far more optimistic come January that the team can win anywhere at anytime. 2. The Kids- Hariston, Walker, & Bishop all have had their moments and their growth is saving the team given the constant injuries we keep getting. Bishop is still just year 2 and his consistency is growing as his talent is certainly present. Having Poyer next to him has helped immensely where you can see his calmness and his best play come out. Walker is probably the biggest gem of them, but Max's speed altered that game and can help the secondary remold into being something decent. 3. Defensive Line- Such a bummer about Hoecht and Oliver as you saw how good this group can be. Even with them out Larry has been nice to have rotating in, Walker has been amazing as a rookie, & Bosa is doing what you hoped Von could've kept doing. They are going to need to bring in some vet to help keep things going and the rotation solid. But maybe just maybe you get Oliver back for this crew come playoff time and if that happens along with the line playing at a high level that will be game altering. 4. Listen they have to prove it come January that they can cross the river finally, I know it, they know it, you know it.... WITH that said it was a really good win by the team as a whole and the coaches deserve credit. Buffalo needed this win to maintain pace with the Pats until we face them again. Beating KC now puts them in a dicey spot divisionally where they have a 1-1 division record 2-3 conference record and they are now two games back of Denver & one game back of LA. I absolutely believe KC can still win the division as they are not to be doubted, but they now have enough scrapes & cuts record wise that the 1 seed is most likely done given the tiebreaking circumstances & winning the division will be a true challenge which should force them at least on the road for 1-2 games if not the whole postseason. Again until the playoffs come and the score show KC lost at 0:00 they are a cockroach that exist the way NE did. But the more attrition and obstacles, the better chance Buffalo has for a better path come January. Conversely the Bills now are 4-1 in conference and 2-1 in division which helps with tiebreakers. Take care of your business as we go, beat NE when the time comes, and see where the chips fall come January. This has been a messy messy year without one truly great team so the 1 seed is absolutely there, but you gotta hold serve and this game helped big time with that. 5. Josh - He's back. He was never really gone either, but the poised decisive assassin we love was in the house yesterday. He was Buffalo's best player and it was a needed reminder that come the biggest and brightest stage you have the guy that can close. 6. Offense- That was the offense in its best form and Brady finally felt ahead of KC for the majority of the game play call wise. I still hated not running for it on fourth and 2 when we had been having success all day, but overall a very strong day. My biggest gripe is keep going to your TEs and don't stop. Run 13 personnel and 12 personnel as much as you can. They TEs are the strongest part of the passing catching group at this point and the best way to break defenses in the air. Once Palmer is back it should help the outside more although everyone still knows how much the offenses ceiling rises with just one more guy. But even if they add Waddle tomorrow, I am utilizing those TEs all the time and bludgeoning teams with them. 7. Next week is a win and advance week. Get on Miami quick and break their spirit so they do not think they have a shot. They are losing guys as they start rebuilding so that will weaken them, but do not give them an ounce of hope. The following three games after will all be good to sizable tests as the Bills go TB, at HOU TNF, & then at PIT. You need to be 2-1 through that stretch as all of those teams present different issues. TB due to injuries is not the monster they could have been a month ago, but they are still a reallly really good team. HOU has perhaps the best defense in football even if their offense is very hit or miss and PIT is PIT which means they can be good great awful or average, but more likely then not come the 4th quarter they will be around. You got the largest hurdle cleared this week, make sure you are ready for the upcoming ones and hopefully we get a trade or two to give some reinforcements to the guys.

Josh from 2019-2023 had Diggs, Beasley, Brown, & Sanders who all were very quality to very good WRs in that time. The team has decided since then to not fully invest at WR to improve the rest of the offense and the defense to carry a larger burden (for better or worse). I do not disagree that I wish wish wish they had drafted 2-3 WRs high in the 23/24 drafts (1st 2nd 3rd round!) and made a more conscious effort to address the position then just Coleman which has now caught them to an extent. KC after trading Hill didn't shy away from going after WRs in the draft and Rice looks really good and Worthy has a good roll there. But Josh has had his time with quality receivers and once you pay a QB the expectation is he raises the floor for them also.

Bills 23 Chiefs 19 ******** IF PALMER PLAYS... IF HE DOES NOT PLAY CHIEFS 24 BILLS 20 ******* I see a lot of high scores being predicted but this feels decidedly like the 2023 year where both teams will only show certain things on film and at this point KC/BUF is a divisional level game with how frequently they play. Both teams are enormously prideful and I can tell you that matters big time as neither wants to give an inch. Buffalo's defense despite its issues will want to put its best out and while Oliver is gone the rest of the defense is healing plus McD seems to be calling the plays which he has had success with. Anyhoo long story short I honestly think this game hinges on if Palmer is playing or not because Buffalo will want to run the ball to control the game, but KC can adjust their D a lot of Palmer is not there as an outside threat. If he is there and to a lesser degree Gabe Davis plays I think the Bills do enough to make the game how they want it. If he doesn't play I think the Chiefs are able to stall the Bills offense enough that they make more plays and the Bills are playing catch up to the point KC has the ball last and can run the clock out as the Bills offense ends up having to settle for FG's over TD's which decides the game.

Good news the Sabres are back! 4-4-1 baby! (honestly they might be decent if they just never play UPL in net... like a possible playoff team) ... I will now run and hide

I reallyyy hated his response yesterday that they can pass it if they want and he referenced the BAL game. That is great and all but the BAL went prevent D when you went off on them and when you played Atlanta you couldn't pass worth a lick. I do believe McD has wanted this team to run the ball more as they excel at it and it plays into his hand where they control the game which typically leads to turnovers and both sides rolling. My issue is what happens in a game like ATL and you have to pass? I am honestly curious the next game they need to play catch up and if the offense can really do so. I could see them adding Bradin Cooks cheap and then Gabe Davis as a stop gap and hoping for the best. Like you said not sure they can actually use it right and not sure either have the mileage left to be useful. Cooper at least still had a reputation that forced Ds to adjust all year in 24', Davis and/or Cooks not sure you get that impact.

I have always viewed the trade deadline as a time to accent your lineup, not make wholesale changes. The Rams are the popular one people bring up because of the Von trade in 21' and Super Bowl win.. but at the time of the trade they were 7-1. He was very solid addition, but that roster was already in a really good place when it happened. The Bills with the injuries on defense and major hole at WR would need some wholesale changes to really change everything to the desired outcome. Instead what probably happens is possibly trade for a useful solid outside WR, either a FA DT signing or maybe a late round pick for someone who fits what they do, and Gabe Davis is also added to the roster to help shore up the outside WR. I keep seeing a lot of big names like Olave or Waddle which would be a pipe dream, but with the way the sellers are and how I don't see Beane moving capital I think they go with a more holistic grounded approach.

I want to say it was the offseason of 2023 when you started hearing the Bills and Josh talk about him protecting his body earlier in the year and not running as much the first half so he was in better shape in the back half of the season. I would have to search to find those clips of when it was said, but 23' & 24' he seem to take off the last 7-8 weeks in terms of play and some of his bigger moments. Could be just coincidence but I do believe to some extent that this is true.

I generally think Beane approached the WR corp and adding guys that Josh will just make them better because he is awesome. I am waiting for him to say he added Beasley & Brown in 2019 to improve the room as vets and he needs his recent additions to do the same. The difference is Beasley was in his prime and at the time maybe the best slot WR (heck we beat NE for him) and Brown was a proven speed burner by then also a solid WR at the time. Palmer I like, but the rest look like cheap flameouts and lotto tickets they keep hoping for a $100 with when they spent $1. Coleman they have forced out of position (not that I think he is good either) rather then drafting actual outside boundary WRs.

Should be an interesting game and I think it will be a weird one that ends like 23-18 or 25-21. The Bills will be dogs and eager to prove on D especially they can be up for it. Allen typically is in his zone for KC so he will do some things. The Chiefs have been hot for a bit and I expect they win tonight to be on 3 game winning streak and five of the last six. Where it gets interesting is their offensive line is messy right now and like the Bills they have had a lot of night games including tonight so they will come in with one less day. For the Bills I would feel better about their chances knowing Palmer is a go, Kincaid is fully healthy, and the D has Milano/Bernard. I see this as another game (fans will hate this) which the Bills want the ball to dictate pace and eat clock which is why I think we get some weird score by the end of it. If ever there was a game for the offense to let the passing game loose it is now and maybe they finally do a bit but will see. For the Chiefs I think you want to get the ball first and get points early so the Bills can't sit in their gameplan. If KC can get up even 10-7 or something where they force Buffalo to chase I can see them pressing this quicky to a 28-20 finish. A lot in this game will hinge on how that offensive line is in terms of health but more importantly if the Bills can actually get some true pressure to Mahomes or not. Hariston is a nice wrinkle for BUF, but the Chiefs still should be able to use the speed of Worthy and Rice to push the Buffalo secondary.

Matt Bove says this team can absolutely win a SB, but they go as far as 17 takes them. I tend to agree with that despite my frustration currently. If 17 is on a heater they can go places regardless of talent.

Unfortunately this is the dark truth especially with the offense that has forever bothered a lot of people and no WR addition over true quality. Expecting the offense to be at that peak which meant record low turnovers, sacks, & penalties is statistically impossible. I had hoped that the defense with all the investment would be able to carry its weight more and that would swing the difference. With injuries this year you will probably not see the full vision and the defense was not good the first 6 weeks. I will say yesterday they looked really good with a lot of those additions playing granted it was against Dalton. At this point I am hoping they can add a good WR so the offenses potential is higher and the defense molds into a unit that can create pressure at the line without giving up a ton of big plays. IF that happens it could be a different year. But your premise is spot on and why so many including myself were frustrated with how the offense was constructued.

Not sure how old you are but the offense this year has reminded me of what Brady went through 2005 and especially 2006 where his best receiving option was his TE Ben Watson while the WR corp has Reche Caldwell & Jabar Gaffney! Non surprisingly the Pats while competitive with a good running game didn't have the pieces on offense and flamed out. Of course the 07 Pats happened after that and Brady never had a WR room again that shallow in talent (lesson learned). I am nervous the same is happening here where they hope they can win with the QB being the game manager with a great running attack. Problem is that limits your gameplan in a league that favors passing far more then 2005-06.

Seasons to me are all defined by expectations and the eye test. Last year virtually everyone thought it was a reset year of sorts and instead it was a wonderful season that unfortunately ended in "what if". This season the hope was to build on last year and take the final step after years of spinning our tires to get the 1 seed and finally make the SB. The defense was always going to be a work in progress and the injuries have derailed whatever max potential exists, but the offense while good in many ways fails the eye test when it comes to passing right now. The one flaw which people have said going back to Diggs final year was the WR corp where you have wanted to add talent and they haven't done that. I enjoyed yesterday, winning is always nice and to knock a team down like that was a good return to form. But I can feel your sentiment at the same time because: -Josh is not getting younger -McD is year 8 with a defense that is shaky right now even if the potential in areas like the dline is more -KC is hot and their offense looks dynamic especially passing the ball something we use to be dynamic in -NE's fast rise with Maye means it is not a cake walk to the division crown as it has been in every year minus 2023 where you could have bad weeks and losses. Additionally it is always more fun to be on the rise as a team then be established (unless you win every year) because optimism is boundless and the sky feels like it is the limit So yea I get your feeling they missed the window or it is narrower because truthfully it is and that invisible clock is far closer to closing time then feeling endless. The window opened in 2019 and like you said we have come oh so close and now you can see we probably have Josh at his max for 4-5 years tops before you need him to be more Brady/Peyton esq in his later years passing the ball more which also means the org consciously building a team that can do that. The KC loss in the AFC title this past year forever altered my view of the org/coach and our window and it seems to have for many others. Time is not limitless and a golden chance went through our fingers with no guarantee it comes back. With that said sports are really weird and winning is hard for even the best. Most elite QBs have a ring/at least have made the dance, but Brady/Mahomes really skew the bar on what is normal. If you told me in 2010 Aaron Rodgers would have only one ring today and not even appeared in another SB I would've been stunned. Drew Brees got royally screwed back to back years in the playoffs from seeing another SB. The frustration that seems to be seeping out for real is we want this window to be as large as possible with what time we have left and the org's moves make you question if that is really being done from how drafts have gone to how the WR corp has been treated to the coach himself. If tomorrow they landed Olave or Ridley and Harrison Phillips at DT (examples not my actual wishes) to help plug with Oliver out there would be a lot of relief by fans on the said window and how it is being handled. The eye test right now says more can be done to help a team with high expectations and previous results have everyone feeling the same ending (or worse) if nothing changes. I sincerely hope that changes so I can just go back to dreaming and not thinking "if only".

I agree with you here on all of this. I do want to add Albert Breer today mentioned that a lot of teams seem to be more careful right now with QBs in a load mgmt type of way with their usage and what is being shown in the first half. I absolutely believe that the Bills have been doing that with Josh and he has been told to keep it in check until later in the year. That still does not excuse the issues in the passing game that are so prevalent at this time, but it has made me wonder if the game plan has been so intentional at times with runs partly for later in the year. Breer acknowledging as much and other analysts saying the Bills are make Josh be a game manager really makes me think there is credence to some of lack of passing being shown. I don't agree with it, but with the injuries this year and longer season I can see more teams doing that.

Coleman is EJ Manuel 2.0 at WR. Was brought in with expectations he won't ever hit but they want him to, the GM refuses to admit his error which is hurting the team now and the longer they go without admitting the mistake the worse it is going to be. Samuel is what he is at this point. He has been here long enough that he just isn't a fit I guess.