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Maye played a really solid game as needed AND had some really great razzle dazzle plays which if he keeps doing will put him in that top echelon of QBs which separates good to great. Our defense also just cannot tackle and cannot cover which is getting to a point that is going to sink the long term goals of the team. As for the offense it was the first game this season where I do not think they dictated the game on their terms and once they were in catch up mode the mistakes only magnified this. Allen was C+ last night, some good, some great as always, but too much meh or forcing things rather then letting it come to him. Between the penalties and turnovers + the Pats D playing very well you could see they just never found the rhythm they had in the prior four games. That is not common for them and I am sure majority of the upcoming games they will get going but it did expose that they do not have help from the D if they have issues or their off script and the WRs cannot do enough to help either.

Also in a much much larger level he and Brees both had to help rebuild a franchise/city that was literally destroyed by Katrina. This wasn't just a come in, draft well, and go type of thing. The entire operation itself had to be literally reset from the bottom up. That takes a special coach to be able to do that AND also have the success that followed.

Guarantee McD will repeat non stop no penalties no turnovers. But after the Saints you would've thought that message got through. Rings change everything. Payton's offenses also were pretty legendary to the point other coaches asked him routinely including BB what he was doing so well scheme wise. McD has none of that and what is supposed to be his calling card with defense has now eroded to a point you have zero faith in it.

That ignores the bountygate suspension and penalties that really hurt the team for a few years. Ask Saint fans and they still hate Goodell with the passion of a 1000 suns for the way they got hit for that in terms of draft picks etc.. Additionally they lost three consecutive playoff games either by insanely bad luck (Diggs catch) or no penalty call (Roby non call) or OT that last year in 2019 against Kirk Cousins of all people. Payton with a solid roster and decent QB is a very good head coach near the top 5 in football. I cannot say that about McD

Bingo. When the result feels like the AFC title again in terms of errors mistakes and most importantly if the offense is not averaging 30+ a game you can't win idk what to say anymore with the coach. His baby is being a defensive yet the results have gotten worse regular season wise over time and post season its pathetic. Why are just burning years of Josh's career when no result has changed from not making the SB to not even getting the 1 seed. Beane I tend to agree but I have also wondered how much is McD's input on guys he wants and then Beane shops for them. Again his hit rate in rounds 2-3 is just atrocious and part of why the defense is so shaky when most of those resources have been towards D.

This is my point. The Bills will finish will 11-6/12-5 probably the division crown although NE can take it if we don't keep our stuff together and then they fall the same fashion in the postseason. They are consistent enough to be pretty good, but to be great they make the same mistakes yearly with the same issues on D which results in too many what if losses come seasons end. That goes back to your head coach and talent wise to your GM as the defense just lacks any bluechip talent at this point while recycling older broken pieces like Tre back in hoping for a one year blip of decent play.

I have felt this way since the KC loss. What has changed? Defense still sucks despite very resource we have being pumped into it, the coach routinely gets out coached by anyone half decent, and if Josh is not playing at a high level or mistakes happen whether it be his or the teams they lose. Again were wasting the prime of the best QB we have had and our best chance to get a ring since the 90s. It is fascinating to me the amount of people that still defend McD when it has been nearly a decade of him as coach and his defense has only gotten worse despite having the luxury of an all world QB. Beane doesn't escape criticism either but you can't fire a GM mid season.

Thank you for supporting the same crap that has resulted in no rings, no 1 seed, and helping to waste Josh entire career. McD lifetime coach forever!

Josh has maybe 3-4 average to bad games a year. He also is the reason they win 4-5 games that otherwise they wouldn't. I am not giving him a pass as much as if he had some actual freaking help he they would have already got the 1 seed by now in a prior season. It is the first game this year I think Brady and the offense in general was behind the opponents defense in terms of gameplan and how the game went and never really dictated things. Part of that was because the moment the Bills took the lead which finally gave the offense the ability to maybe dictate something when they got the ball back the defense then allowed NE a TD and the Bills were back to chasing.

That is a different discussion I am open to, but that is after the season. McD now would be a start.

And my point is after 7 seasons plus there is no reason to expect anything different when the result again is the same. They have poured god knows how much into a defense which at best is opportunistic vs bad to average teams and sucks regularly vs good teams or QBs that can move.

Exactly. Margins are razor thin. A loss to Atlanta is not nearly as impactful as one to the Pats who is conference and in division. I actually figured we would lose later in NE as that is tough, to blow it at home is inexcusable and just a repeat of the same old sh*t.

The penalties finished relatively even with a ton for each side, blaming refs is cheap even if they sucked. In the end don't turn the ball over 3 times, have a defense not allowed back to back TD drives right after your offense does and you probably win.

Josh has never been better at QB since he became OC and that is with a WR corp that has been meh majority of the time. I would rather he run the ship and he have stability for the offense like KC then what we have now. It is a conference loss and division loss. The team in KC wins these games especially at home none the less. Again since 2019 it has been the same story so why expect anything different because they will lose other games also. This was a needed win to buffer for the future which they pissed away again.

This team and coach has nothing to say otherwise that they won't fail like every other year. At some point when the same result is the same result you throw your hands up and say enough. They are wasting the most talented QB they will ever have in my lifetime so it would be nice for someone to show a damn pulse in the org.

They will have their up's and down's because they are young and the depth isn't great... BUT Maye playing the he is with Vrabel coaching solid means they are absolutely a playoff team and if the Bills are not careful they will be on the road all postseason. Some Bills fans wanted to put em down in the preseason but if you saw Maye last year you knew the kid is solid and with a little bit more help and better coaching can absolutely be a guy in this league.

It is groundhog day all over. Lose to an AFC team where you turn the ball over like crazy, take a billion penalties, the offense has an off day and the defense can carry the water. I have seen this movie over and over and mark my words come January when the Bills are the 2 or 3 or heck a wildcard team as Maye looks like he can carry the water for them it'll be the same damn discussion again. For a guy who is a defensive mind McD's defenses have only gotten worse over the years yet the investment is pour more resources there with nothing to show for it. At this point fire McD, burn the ships and go with Brady as the head coach because that is the only change that might actually change the course from another defeat on the road in January where the offense has a B+ day and the defense allows 30+ points and everyone criticizes everything when the true issue is unless 17 is A+ 24/7 he will never have the help to make the Super Bowl.

Move Brady up. Done

Appreciate the post. People are freaking because the defense is a work in progress and has been bad against the run and very bad with 3rd down defense even though statistically since the Ravens they have been fine. People are freaking because the offense while scoring 30+ is not throwing the ball around like the 07 Pats every week. People are freaking because Maye has looked pretty good and to the Pats credit they look improved and division games are a whole different ball game which is a far more fair point. In general basically because the Bills are not winning 40-3 every week with the offense throwing 400 yds, the defense allowing 10 yards total, etc.. the Bills are the worst team in the AFC even though their 4-0. lol I expect the Bills to win as they simply have more talent right now, a more well rounded roster right now, and Allen is the best player in the NFL. The Pats are going to make a game of it and at points make us nervous. Maye looks good with the potential to be really good and if they build this right over the next two years it will be a major problem for us even with Josh. But for right now the Bills at home should take care of business, come December in New England I think I have had that as a loss all year.

Bills 33 Flying Elvis's 20 This is a classic new kid on the block wanting to make a point but the old guard isn't moving at this time type of game. New England's offense has been decent at points with Maye playing pretty well while their defense is more shaky as they grow. Their talent is not phenomenal and with Milton likely out or limited and Barmore also off injury that hurts them badly on defense. With that said while I think the Bills hold serve throughout and get out to a 14-0 lead early courtesy of a Cook TD run and Coleman TD, the Pats respond in the 2nd with a Diggs TD as Maye breaks contain on 3rd and goal and finds him scrambling. Bills get a FG after but the Pats respond with a FG at half to make it 17-10. Out of half the Pats get a FG as the defense again bends but doesn't break and the WNY faithful get nervous, but Josh and the offense go on a 7 min + drive and cap it with a Knox TD to make it 24-13. Maye gets picked off deep on the next drive by Benford and the offense converts it to a FG entering the 4th up 27-13. The Pats get a TD of their own and it is 27-20 with 10 to go in the 4th quarter, but the Bills offense again responds as Moore finally scores on one of those reverses with 5 mins to go to seal the win (Bills miss the XP). Allen 285 yds 2 TDs 23-29 Cook 123 yds 1 TD 18 rushes Coleman 98 yds 5 rec

If they hit their bye 3-3 they can still win the division to the point I have confidence they do. If they are 2-4 I still think they make the playoffs as long as Lamar is back healthy although the division might be a bit of a reach with PIT already 3-1 but you never know. Biggest thing is they can't be 1-5 come bye week. They have a ton of injuries, but if they can just get a W coming up and then heal up through the bye they can get back in it pretty quick with that schedule. WITH all of that said, this is why it is stupid when the NFL media crowns a team as the one to beat with zero blemishes etc. The Ravens had near perfect health last year to the point Barnwell's recent piece covers it was historically good. Variance is real with health and turnovers and no team is flawless. The Ravens to me always were an 11-6/12-5 team because it is extremely difficult even if your great to win 13-14 games year in year out without issue and teams that do typically have a lot of luck mixed in. The bigger question is Harbaugh and if they don't make it or they fail again come post season what happens. They have the look of a team that is fading on confidence with the coach and he has been there an awful long time without breaking through again. I do not get the sense the locker room backs here nearly the way the Bills does with McD who similarly has not broken through with good teams.

We’re at the 4-week mark of the season, which means we’re already a quarter of the way in (noooo). I did this last year—ranking the AFC every 4-5 weeks or so—but I always find early-season rankings tricky. The first four weeks can be totally misleading. So, this is a blend of where teams are now and where I think they’re headed long-term. As always—agree, disagree, tell me I have no brain. 😂 Have fun with it: See You at the AFC Title Game Buffalo – The defense is a work in progress, but with some key injured and suspended players returning, there’s real potential for growth. Overall, they’re a more dangerous team than last year. Kansas City – Immovable object. Rumors of their demise were greatly exaggerated. That said, they’re more flawed than in previous years, and the division looks tougher. Regardless, until someone knocks them out before the AFC Title Game, pencil them in. Contenders LA Chargers – Well-coached and always tough. The offense looks more dangerous with Hampton, and Herbert is playing really well. The question isn’t whether they’ll make the playoffs, but whether they can finally win the division—or at least a playoff game. Are the Ravens Still Contenders...? The preseason darlings of NFL media are now 1-3. They're banged up, lost two close games they couldn’t close, got blown out by another AFC alpha, and now Lamar is hurt. That said, their schedule lightens up. If Lamar plays, they can stack some wins, and the defense will get some guys back. Realistically, though, this version of the Ravens looks like a shell of the teams from the last two years. Even if they win the division, they’ll likely be on the road for two playoff games—probably in Buffalo and/or KC—where they’ve historically struggled. If the offense gets going, they’re still dangerous. I can’t take them fully out of the contender tier, but things aren’t looking great either. Frisky Newcomers Denver – Nix is showing some sophomore-slump signs and may be more of a serviceable starter than a star. Still, there’s talent all over the roster, and they’re one missed FG penalty from being 3-1. If Nix can step up against better competition, they’ll be a tough out. Jacksonville – Coen has the offense clicking, but more importantly, the defense has been stout. Their next three games are against KC, SEA, and LAR (in London), so they’ll have their chances to prove they’re legit. Shades of 2017 all over this team. The Steelers Probably Win This Division, But What's Their Ceiling? Pittsburgh – With the rest of the division dealing with injuries and inconsistency, the Steelers are sitting at 3-1 and in control. The offense is lukewarm with occasional spice, and the defense isn’t the elite unit it used to be. How do they beat KC/BUF/LAC unless those teams self-destruct? Wildcarding New England – Maye has been very solid, which keeps the Patriots in the Wild Card conversation. The defense is inconsistent—stout at times, sieve-like at others. After Sunday Night Football in Buffalo, the schedule softens. They feel like a team that’ll be a sneaky playoff threat by season’s end. Indianapolis – They have the second-best point differential in the AFC and a good win over Denver. 10 wins probably gets a Wild Card spot this year—and in the AFC South, 10 might win the division. Jones has played really well, but can he sustain it for 17 games? "I Self-Ranked Myself a Top 5 QB After My Rookie Year... and It's Been a Tire Fire Since" Houston – I bought into the Stroud hype last year, but between the offensive line issues and consistent, game-changing mistakes, the regression is real. The defense will keep them in games, and the AFC South gives them some margin for error, but this feels like a 7–10 team. By season’s end, they may be asking hard questions at QB. We’re Wrecking Our Second Franchise QB Because We’re Cheap & Have No Team-Building Vision Cincinnati – Burrow going out like this is a huge bummer… but not shocking. He’s been the most-hit starting QB since Andrew Luck. This team should’ve learned from KC that sometimes trading the flashy WR (Higgins) to build a stronger overall roster is the right move. The 2 wins they banked don’t feel like enough for a late push, even if Burrow returns in December. For Bills fans: with Burrow likely missing their game, Buffalo may not face him again until at least 2027. GeNOOOOOOO... 7–10 Raiders Again Raiders – Geno looked like one of the better QBs in terms of accuracy and turnover avoidance in Seattle. Now, he has 7 turnovers in 4 games and two sub-200-yard performances. There was some preseason hype about them being a sneaky Wild Card team, but there’s just not enough talent here. In a weaker division, maybe—but in the AFC West, it’s hard to see a turnaround coming. Bad Teams Without Enough Talent – Already Playing for 2026 Miami – Whatever best-case scenario existed disappeared by halftime of Week 1. The roster lacks talent, and with Hill now out for the year, the offense is even more of a shell. They might claw their way to 3–4 in the coming weeks, but the crash is coming. McDaniel is starting to look like a one-trick pony with no backup plan. Cleveland – There’s a universe where they never traded for Watson, kept Baker, and make the playoffs yearly with a great defense. That’s not this one. The D is being wasted because the offense has no reliable QB, lacks weapons, and can’t protect. Why Myles Garrett re-signed here knowing this roster was already sinking is beyond me. New York Jets – Life comes at you fast. One week you’re almost upsetting the Steelers, and the next you're 0–4 with culture questions. Everyone knew the rebuild would be ugly, but Glenn needs to keep things focused or it could spiral fast. What once looked like a decent foundation now feels barren. Tennessee – 2025 was never the goal here. Ward is taking his rookie lumps. The bigger issue? The effort level isn’t there, and that reflects on the head coach. They need talent, yes—but they also need their recent draft picks to show something. The upcoming schedule (vs ARI, LV, NE, IND) gives them a chance to prove they’re growing.

True with the way things are shaking down that is possible. Personally I would like to see them both at full energy to see how we do.

Bring your brass knuckles because that game is going to be a war between them. Also TB will be Eagles light come Nov, they are no joke and just as fiesty.

1 - Defensive Line rotation - Agreed. Maybe with Oliver out and Rousseau apparently banged up they are trying to keep things light, but at some point your going to need to settle in more with your best guys. 2 - Bosa - I thought this was a product of trying new things... and we should not be putting him in contain lol. 3 - Walker - The potential is there for all pro talent. Not saying he will get there but the potential exists, he is fun to watch. If Harrison becomes a quality starter Beane will have nailed two more young studs for the future. 4 - Kincaid - I have been critical of Kincaid the last two years and he has leveled up. Good for him. 5 - Bishop - No longer worried about him. Now the other safety spot... sh*t 7 - Cook - I was fine with what they paid him and I am stunned he is playing this well. I truthfully thought a small step back. Credit to him tenfold he is awesome. 8 - 4th and short to Shakir - Curse words were flying at the TV, we got too cute at time we didn't need to. Awful. 9 - Josh 2nd quarter - Through the 3rd quarter Josh had attempted 16 passes. That is too little game plan be damned. I really hope they are holding back and yes Cook is stellar but when they do attack passing wise it is glorious and aggravating they aren't passing that much. 10 - Coaching - I come down on the coaches because they looked like a team that had ten days off, under estimated the Saints who to their credit played really hard and made a real game, and play calls at times like the Shakir play were just mind boggling. The entire team coach to player gets criticized for the lack of effort & emotion which allowed a feisty Saints team to hang around much longer then they should have. My own note: Babich- I would can him now. Fraziers defenses at least vs lower opponents feasted on teams were it would be embarrassing. Babich just seems too much like Dorsey where sometimes its decent but other times he is so behind the opponents OC and he doesn't have answers. The Saints play a quick pace on offense which isn't surprising given Kellen Moore as the head coach. Buffalo looked completely out of sorts for a long time with this. The run defense still is no better no is the 3rd down defense. Does Babich have a quality performance as DC vs a solid opponent at this point? Frazier's defenses may have faded in the post season which is its own issue but they at least had some truly good games vs BALor KC. Babich to me just doesn't have it and while I have been pretty consistent with seeing where the D is when it is healthy come week 10/11 and had time to gel, I just don't think he has the meddle to coach it to the max potential either.