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They are a division foe and annoyance but they are not a rival the way I consider Miami, KC, NE, or heck even the Jags who we have lost two different playoff games to and some truly other weird a$$ games. Their fans are just obnoxious as heck more then anything so seeing them down is enjoyable haha, but there hasn't been a major moment with NY while I have been alive which was cut deep by them. The opening losses in 2002 and 2023 stunk but even those again were bad days not McKelvin level pain part of two decades of pain with NE or the hate that builds with Miami when their going. 2023 with Miami was especially enjoyable because it felt like the old days and winning in their house to take the division was soooo sweet. The arrogance that fanbase and their media had going into that finale made it so satisfying to put them back in their place. At no time have I ever had a feeling remotely close to that with NY.

It is why I have stated and stated I want to see where they are come week 11-12ish. That is enough time for the pieces to come together they have added and gel good or bad. It is still not encouraging that this defense any time they play a top offense breaks like an icicle falling but I will give it time and the D-line leaves a lot to like.

Because McD has said it is Babichs calls and unit in the end. Yes McD has a role in scheme etc.. but he has transitioned more into CEO coach like most do and Babich has the majority of the responsibility. I do not disagree that McD has a role and if things go south and Babich goes that McD will also get fire to him for it, but he isn't calling the plays on D at this point so Babich does get more fire.

The hope would be Bishop evolves into a better starter, the defensive line can rotate even more with those two back which means a more rested unit that can be aggressive, and if the CB spot it healthy and good then you can really scheme things away from your weakness at safety. Again that would be the hope.

I am reversing the normal phrase because it is more fitting for the analysis of our defense after Sunday. With that said it has been over a day and I am trying to be rational with these thoughts and there were a few positives I found (specific to the D line) rather then just saying they were awful Sunday which is easy to say. Ugly The run defense. Henry was not just breaking tackles he wasn't even being touched at times on some of the runs. For a team which has had some dog days against the run this was an all time classic display of bad even if Henry is a HOF RB that has very few equals. The defense the until 9:18 left in the game. 40 points and just two forced punts. It basically was last years regular season game again except our offense came to play this time Whatever Terrell Bernard was doing all night. I have generally liked his play since he has become a starter but this was an all time WTF was that performance. Whether it is not trusting the coverage over top or overplaying plays where he was badly out of position it was ugly as sin. The safeties. The good news is Baltimore probably is the most complete offense they will play all season so as weak as this spot is right now your not going to face what you saw every week... but holy yikes. Rapp is as fast as a sloth and Bishops body I believe is still implanted in the turf right now. I understand Bishop is young and will take his lumps, but it is very frustrating that a spot every one said needs improvement was ignored and put on display so badly in front of the world. Bobby Babich. Sooo in 3 games vs Baltimore they have averaged 34 ppg against our D, the Chiefs 27 ppg, etc.. you get where this is going. Last year was year one and I get learning the ropes etc.. but year 2 even with the injuries/suspensions this defense was invested in tenfold and that is the best you can do? Long season and I have said on here all off season it is going to take half the season for this defense to come together, but by seasons end they better be a far stiffer unit across the board or his time will be numbered. Bad Taron Johnson and Benford had a relatively poor performance all evening, but not nearly as bad as their counterparts. Given the high level or play they bring you would have liked to have seen more impact plays from both Blitzing Bishop from Niagara Falls. Apparently the Ravens caught this early and intentionally hiked before Bishop could actually be in his spot, but regardless while the idea to blitz wasn't bad the execution was hilariously bad. Overall energy of the defense from the 2nd quarter until 9:18. They looked like they needed someone to step up and do something to get it going and no one was there. The one question that has been asked since all the old vets left is who will be the guys to step up when its tough sledding. I loved Oliver's play, Groot & Milano had a few nice moments, but this defense will not always get that turnover which turns a bad day around or the game may already be lost at that point. Some of the newer younger guys you'd like to see someone step up or one of the more established guys like Milano to help make a stop. One game, long season, but just something since last year I have been watching Good The defense from 9:18 in the 4th on. Two three and outs plus a forced fumble to alter the game. For as awful as they were they made some strong plays late that kept it alive Ed Oliver. I can only hope he goes a full season playing like this because he was a terror and did alter the game enough to make it a game again. The overall defensive line got some pressure and you can see the potential with Bosa mixed in that they can become a force. That is really encouraging and I thought Bosa as the game went on found himself. There isn't much after a 40 pt performance you hang your hat on but the defensive line legitimately has me excited for what they could do over the year Dorian Strong in his first start was fine. That is a compliment given the state of the rest of the secondary and back end, but for a rookie day one I thought he did a good job. One final thought: The defense was bad for the vast majority of the game and the secondary feels like a massive question mark at this point given the safeties especially. The trend still exists that this defense gets exposed against great offenses until they finally show otherwise. With that said Baltimore is the best offense they will play all season and their fans are asking and saying everything we are. The defense will benefit from playing some lower teams which will allow some time to figure solutions and play out which will help. Until they play KC they do not face a QB of Lamar's caliber and after that it isn't until Burrow where you face another guy and offense that can do that so the defense and coaching staff has time to figure out a lot of answers. With that said if you are pessimistic on the defense moving forward I can't blame you as they keep living up to being a unit the comes up small when the competition is the best. Thankfully we got a whole season coming so hopefully they can change that.

No disagreement there. I think org vs QB are different themes. For orgs you need to be willing to have GM/Coach lock step, owner willing to take a bad year or two, a plan that you do not deviate from for the QB, and very big blinders to ignore the noise on the bad days.

The three consistent themes forever with young QBs that turn into good QBs are this: 1. Time to learn and make mistakes with no fear of repercussion 2. Building them a solid line to throw behind between years 1-3 3. Adding weapons that maximize their skill set in years 1-3 The first one teams regularly botch with ease. There is nothing wrong with letting a rookie get the live bullets and it is the only way they learn, but too many teams start a guy and expect by year 2 they should be fully grown. It is funny because for as many encouraging signs as Josh had it really was not until the last 6-7 games of 2019 you saw the maturation with his play and decision making. That 2019 home Pats game he truly cost us the game because he was so aggressive and superman instead of playing within himself... BUT it was a tremendous learning lesson. I remember Big Ben's first year they went 14-2 but he had some really shaky games and they let him play it out. The second point so many young QBs fall into bad tendencies because they don't have time and the pressure overwhelms them. There is a laundry list of pretty talented QBs who got beaten to death and never got a chance to see what they could be because of it. Final point I think to adding Beasley and Brown heading into 2019. They added a slot WR who could catch everything and give Josh an easy dump off threat while Brown he couldn't overthrow. Every QB has different strengths and weaknesses and the ability to enhance the good and limit the bad when their young helps so much. Lamar was very good with Greg Roman and they created an offense that allowed him to be comfy. Monken has helped take that to the next level and with Lamar older he is able to handle it also, same as Josh with Brady. For as easy as these sounds too many teams stray away quickly from them or they do not build a decent line and/or add weapons etc.. but go down the list of great QBs and these traits are almost always there. Green Bay has seemingly bucked the trend of bad QB play, but half of it has to stem from letting the guys just learn for a year or two before even putting them in something really unheard of in todays NFL>

It means more money, brand, and growth for the team. It makes sense and seems far more reasonable then what they did prior. Someone also made the point that if the NFL decides to put an international game in Toronto (not one we give up) and we play that team wouldn't you prefer we go there instead of Europe.

Nope your not allowed an opinion. Don't you know we all start with 3,716 points and for every mile you are from the stadium you are deducted 1 pt, if you hit 0 you are allowed no opinion and go straight to jail for expressing any form of sentiment about the team. I didn't make the rules sorry.

All of this to the max. During the freakin drought people stayed for games with far less importance. I am sorry but we deserve the smoke people give us nationally or by other fanbases because the "Bills Mafia is the best" blah blah looks quite stale with people leaving.

Do a go fund me and seriously consider their fandom. Honestly all I heard leading up to the game is how big it was being the final opener, this is the year, were the best fan base blah blah blah. It was a two score game from 11:42 left in the fourth and never more then that. I understand that it was a long shot but you have Allen and that is not insurmountable by NFL standards. Watching at home I was pretty annoyed that our fans left considering how much it costs to go this year which I may not be able to even afford one game and the fact situationally the game was not over especially with 17 as our guy. For the hype and pride our fanbase shows and believes in compared to the rest of the league it was a very bad look by those who left.

My back is sore and abs from running a bunch lately. My kids also jump on me 24/7 so regular bruising at this point

In fairness Collinsworth post game trolled the Ravens hard saying we saw what the MVP can do tonight referring to Josh lol

Whatever their food costs are which is pretty sizable although still probably less then a million

All the Bills fans who STAYED at the stadium the WHOLE game OR those who didn't turn off the TV. With Josh anything is possible, final opening night game, and the game was never fully out of reach even if it was small % chance. If you stayed through you got to see magic you dream of as a fan.

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Two live real Buffalo's is my suggestion

Welp time has come and I have thought it over long and hard. Ravens 27 Bills 24 I think this game mimics the first but Buffalo is chasing Baltimore and does not benefit from 3 Raven turnovers. The Ravens jump out early 7-0 behind a long drive capped by a Flowers TD. Josh and the offense move strongly downfield and tie the game on a Cook screen pass TD. The Ravens take the lead early 2nd quarter when the Bills secondary falters leaving Hopkins behind the safeties to put Baltimore up 14-7. Josh and the offense get a drive downfield right before half but settle for a FG when Knox drops a TD in the endzone with 3 seconds to go and the Bills are down 14-10 at half. The Bills get to midfield out of half but Kincaid fumbles and the Ravens get the ball. The Bills defense does hold the Ravens to a FG and it is 17-10 Baltimore. The Bills offense goes on a long clock running drive and Josh caps the drive with a TD run from 8 yards out to tie the game entering the 4th quarter. The Ravens get the ball and move quick with Lamar getting Andrews on a 30 yard pass beating the safeties again before Henry runs a TD in with 8 minutes left. Josh and the offense rally to tie the game with Coleman getting his first TD in the redzone to tie it at 24-24 with 3 minutes left. Unfortunately the Ravens have the hammer and are able to move downfield running the clock out before winning on a 45 yard FG sending the Buffalo faithful home sad. Allen 26-35 281 yds 2 TDs 30 yds rush 1 TD Cook 62 yds 14 carries 1 TD 40 yds rec Palmer 95 yds 3 rec Two notes: -People are pessimistic on the Bills in this game including myself because the defense has some injuries and in general will need time to find it's form. The one thing that could change this game where I see Buffalo winning 28-17 or something more sizable then close is IF Bosa plays like old and the d-line in general dominates. That to me is the Bills ace card on the season and I think by the end of the year it is a major issue for any opponent we play. I am just not sure it happens this early, but if it does I think Buffalo can win by more then one score. -Josh has never been great vs Baltimore. His best two games were the playoff game in 2020 run and 2022 in Baltimore. Last year he did what was needed in the post season which is fine but he has never had a big game vs Baltimore. I think win or loss Josh is superb finally and plays within himself throughout.

this is all part of my master plan

The NY media already had the Jets in the wildcard and really thought BUF was nothing special. Lol then 3 weeks later mono strikes and their seasons over

I expect the Bills defense by seasons end to be very good and the dline to really dominate... with that said right now the Ravens have a Bills secondary that is a mess at CB and Safety pls the defensive line isn't jelled at this point. Like you said turnover wise your not getting cold and snow so the Bills offense has to play ball control and hope the defense can force a few 3 and outs. Bills defense has performed above the mean turnover wise since McD, but I would be stunned if they get 2 turnovers let alone 3 so yea its tough sledding. I am holding off my prediction until I see the injury report Friday as the Ravens are already out Likely & Alexander, but if Ricard is out and the Bills are healthier on defense my opinion will change. The blue print for the Bills right now is basically the same as it was in January to beat Baltimore, whereas the Ravens can win a few different ways at this moment.

Top 3 which I have no real order for anymore 2014 at Bears 2019 at Jets 2022 at Rams Ironic all were roadies but in my adult post college life those take the cake. 2019 may be my favorite I guess by a smidge because it really did feel like the start of something with Josh and while he was very raw still it was like seeing the foundation start to settle.

Gonna have to move his prediction to the Bold Takes thread then lol

Yep. I actually should’ve added Rodgers and the Packers here. If you told me after 2010 they’d never be back I wouldn’t have believed it.

Everything I have read is the Browns in general matched up better with their style of play vs NFC. Part of the reason the AFC had such a long losing streak in the SB was their teams during that stretch were more finesse passing attacks that ended up in the SB, whereas the NFC was a street fight in style and it showed. I actually think in today's NFL the AFC probably wins half those SBs during the streak just given how the offenses were created for teams like BUF MIA CIN DEN.