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Actually he is 2-5

I wouldn't fire him but he did what I would have done which is fire the OC in Haley. I think its easier for fans and media to say fire a coach from the outside when they don't see the destruction replacing coaches every few years does to a franchise (minus Bills fans we know this first hand). I think one causality of having the Patriots winning and in the SB or AFC title game almost every year is people forget how hard it is to get to those places. If you were to name the top coaches in football after BB in terms of consistent success, Tomlin is on the short list with Pete Carroll, Mike McCarthy, Sean Payton, & John Harbaugh. Every one of these coaches has been in SB's, won their division, made multiple conference title games etc.. I believe that is what you would want as the standard for your teams success with a coach. I do think he blew it with this years team and he let that roster become far too focused on NE and the AFC title then just winning games. But I can't blame the guy for either Denver loss when they had multiple starters out for injuries that would've altered the game. And he did make the AFC Title game again last season. There is only one conference champion and unfortunately for him they face the Patriots every year. I think criticizing a guy like Mike McCarthy would be far more fair because of the fact they don't have a juggernaut in the NFC like NE who is so dam consistently strong.

I'd rather go after neither and draft a new QB. If you have to bring a QB in as a FA/trade I'd rather Smith or Keenum. Cousins price tag scares me for very moderate to below moderate results and Bradford is so injured he can't be depended on.

Their defense lost its leader in Shazier which matters and while 31pts still isn't a pretty number, JAX defense contributed directly to 14pts between the fumble rec for TD and the INT on the PIT 20. That put their defense in a big hole quick. That said it doesn't excuse the deep passes they allowed late.

Smart move that dude has done less with more then most OC's. Wayy too arrogant of a play caller who thinks the talent he has could supersede scheme and design. If you had a mind the caliber of McVay at OC in PIT they would be hosting NE right now.

I understand that yes you can build a team with great D and that works to a point. If you can build a great D and foundation you have about 5-6 years where you can contend before you have to tear down and start over. If you win the Super Bowl or have even moderate success expect to lose some good to great players/depth because of talent and name brand. And before you hit your contending period your looking a good 2-3 years to acquire the talent/FAs for this defense plus a QB who can do enough to win. The Jaguars have been building this defense since 2015 when they drafted Dante Fowler. That has been the formula for teams like the Seahawks, Broncos, Bucs, Ravens etc.. and in the end long term they fell apart for very reasons I said above. You should always want a franchise QB and that should always be the goal. Franchise QB means that even in leaner years where you do see your top defense fall down you still are a contender and competitive. Until you have that guy you should be always looking to improve at the QB position. Taylor can do enough but we know his warts and even in his best season (2015) teams learned to make him a passer and put a LB spy to make him stay in the pocket. We can do better and we should do more in that regard. Taylor himself deserves a different spot to see if he can be more then what he has been. In the end though if you are asking would I rather be the Jags in the AFC title or Rams who are home but have potentially a true long term QB I am going with the house money at QB.

Oh we love the all day nature of the games also and we still did 3 games this year. Nothing is as sweet as opening the door of the car in the parking lot and smelling game day. Haha yea we are on the younger side were we have a 1000 responsibilities it seems at points.

I sat in 2016 section 141 row 32 $545 per seat and after the first down payment I was able to spread the cost over 5 months for like $120 (we had two seats). It really was affordable ticket wise. It was more the time and tailgating costs that pushed me away because I come from Rochester so it really is the entire day. That said I do plan to return someday with my wife and I as season ticket holders it was something really special and unique regardless of record that we enjoyed.

plan F: Sign me as QB! haha

Basically for the negative and pessimistic to.... be negative and pessimistic I guess

Truthfully there are a lot of players who have high work ethic, good character, and still don't pan out. That's not a shot at Zay as much as the league and success in general, odds wise he will more likely fail then not especially after how poor he was last season.

Agreed 100%. Especially because you figure McD will get at least now 3 more years. Well the foundation of his team will be the 17 draft and this upcoming 18 draft plus FA/UDFA additions.

The team and org deserves a lot of credit for the moves they made and the past season. IF...IF...IF (big emphasis here on IF) they can have another good draft/FA period while adding a quality QB the future will be extremely bright long term.

The reason for it is there are times a CB is absolutely beat and will interfere so the WR doesn't get a TD. They would rather give the yards then TD. That happened in Bills Jags Myles Jack interfered with Shady who would've had a clear TD on a route out of the backfield up the sideline. Perhaps maybe give the ref more leeway to adjust the penalty between spot foul and 15 yards but I don't think the rule is bad. After the mess the league has made with what a catch is the last thing I want now is more rules and decisions by the league office

This argument really pisses me off. The year they plugged Cassel in the Pats had just went 18-1 with the exact same lineup coming back. It wasn't like this was some average division winner with some talent, they were one David Tyree insane catch from being the best team period the previous year and many have wondered what that team would've been had Brady been healthy in 08. Other then that they've plugged Jimmy G for a whopping game and half and Jacoby Brisset for two and half games. Who else exactly have they "plugged in"? Every great offense ever has been a product of great QB and with a scheme that their talent maximizes. Dan Fouts Air Corryell, Joe Montana West Coast, Jim Kelly K Gun etc... There is a reason why the offenses are hard to replicate at those levels yet are copied soo much. Brady has done an excellent job working a system that maximizes his slot WR and TE in the middle to create space while having a deep threat on the outside to break the defense. I would rather Buffalo fans who can't stand the Patriots/Brady to any degree just say so and be done because the bias shows so dam badly and wrecks good conversations like this comparing two great QBs.

Brady would still have more rings. When Brady has had a full offense he has put up numbers better then Brees anyway, but they both do what their teams ask of them to and are magnificent QB's to watch. To me I do look at the post season and Brady has been masterful there. Brees has been good in his chances but truthfully I would bet Vikings this weekend over Brees and the Saints. If Brady was the QB it'd be NOLA. Also elements do matter Brady is good outside, inside, good weather, bad weather etc.. Brees does have a bit of regression outdoors. In the end it just is preference. Some Bills fans will never give Brady his due because he is on our rivals and will find any criticism they can against him the same way Falcon or Panther fans probably do with Brees and that is straight up preference/bias. Personally I think Peyton Manning while one of the all time greats is actually below Brady and Brees but many others would have him ahead of both. It really just comes down to what you value to decide your hierarchy. I do value post-season performance and stats together, others only one or the other. If you were asking straight up who is the best QB in terms of perfection to the position I would say Aaron Rodgers, but he only has one ring and I would argue his team/mgmt holds him back in that regard.

Haha I have friends who are Vikings fans and they are as tortured as us so I have sympathy.

In regards to most hated I probably will surprise a lot of people but I hate the Steelers more then anyone. I would rather the Bills only win one SB title and the Pats win five more in my lifetime if that meant the Steelers never win again until the day I die. I find Steeler fans to be the most pompous arrogant entitled group of fans that exist. They will tell you all about how great they are, 6 titles whenever even the most have zero clue who Lynn Swan is, how they are "different" then other teams in terms of conduct, and the media loves to blow its wad about them at any point. Mix in that their "worst period" of in the last almost 50 years was the 80s when they only made the playoffs 4 times, won one division crown, and made the AFC title they can have a decade or two with no relevance. In regards to teams I like the Packers are fine and depending on the year I can pull for them because they are small market like us. Vikings are cool they are the NFC version of us so if they are doing well I will pull for them to get their chance. The Cardinals I have a bit of a thing for because of Larry Fitzgerald and they are a fun team a lot. The Raiders are the one AFC team that I do actually like because I grew up loving Gannon and the black and silver is straight bada**. Other than that if the Bills are out of it I cheer more for individual players or perhaps a cool story like the Saints after Katrina.

thank god While I agree about keeping games here I have to admit watching Football from 9am until 11pm where I can drink and eat food all day was quite nice.

OMG THE GUY HASN'T PLAYED A SINGLE DOWN THAT MATTERS AND WE ARE ALREADY PROCLAIMING HES DREW MOTHER F*CKING BREES. CALM THE HELL DOWN PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry but this is a pretty poor take for a few reasons the biggest being McD does not call the defense anymore he stopped after week 3 or 4 and Frazier really does run the show. He has said himself it was too much and his job is the coach of the team not one specific side. So he isn't just specializing in one area as a coach. He may have more skill with defense but his focus is the team and the defense is Frazier. Second Gailey didn't have his number #1 WR traded before the season which resulted in his #2 WR retiring in frustration. That is 100% not on McD that was all Beane and they still made the playoffs. Before the trade the Bills were lauded for what they had to the WR corp by having Watkins & Boldin and Jones to learn from them. Would the offense have been that much better with them? Probably not in terms of being a Top 10 type unit but even as a lower 20s passing game that would've been much better. Third Gailey never got the team over 7-9 and never won a big game when it mattered. Yes the Patriots was nice in 2011 but that looks more like a fluke in retrospect. Gailey's squad couldn't beat a crappy Rams team at home in December. Say what you want about the offense but he had them do enough that the team made the playoffs. Comparing him to Gailey is just a really poor stretch, I get what your trying to do but McD making the playoffs with a rag tag roster minus Shady/TreWhite puts him in a whole different place compared to any drought coach. The offense does need to improve he and Beane said as much yesterday and the focus should be on what pieces potentially will be slotted in for this next season.

To be a 100% honest I'd rather move up for Roquan because I think he is more of a sure thing and would cost far less.

So I'll cover this and then my thoughts on long term Bills New York’s Jets 2015 - 10-6 2nd place AFC East. Missed PO.2016- 5-11 4th place AFC East. Missed PO. 1st season was a veteran team with high cap that was relying on Ryan Fitzpatrick who played out of his mind. Frankly they just had their vets have career years and 2016 was more a regression to the mean. Miami Dolphins2016 - 10-6 2nd Place AFC East. WC Loss.2017 - 6-10 3rd Palce AFC East. Missed PO. Simple season one with Tannehill healthy you saw Gase run his offense the way he wanted. Tannehill's injury threw a major wrench in their season regardless of Cutler/Moore. That said they were still as much in it as Buffalo going into week 15 in regards to the Wildcard and many Miami thought they could run the table the same way we did. Buffalo Bills2017 - 9-7 2nd Place AFC East. WC Loss.2018 - ???????? Truthfully this Bills roster overachieved big time with major credit for McD coaching wise and got lucky in quite a few games. I believe that based off their advanced stats the Bills were actually more of a 6 win team in 2017 then 9 so frankly if they win 7-8 next year that would be an improvement on their metrics. How do they avoid slipping too far? To me it looks like this if they plan on building up from 9 wins: - Go 6-2 at home next season again. The Bills at home minus the NOLA game were incredibly hard to play against and finally used the crowd's energy to help them get back to being a very tough opponent for those on the road. If you look at the best teams year in year out their home record is a huge factor in them staying in the playoffs ie NE PIT GB for starters. 6-2 at home means you can go just 3-5 on the road and still have a shot. -With the secondary fixed strengthen the front 7. The Bills lack a top pass rush at LB or DE they need both frankly. Star Lotulelei would be a great add to the middle, but they need a DE and a true stud LB in the middle to play with Milano. The defense with the right additions can go from a good bend not break D to a Top 10 17 pts or less allowed type unit. If you have a defense doing that which starts getting back to being as good as 2014 and you will be in every game regardless of how awful the offense is. -QB who can distribute the ball decently and get the Bills up to 23-24 pts a game on average. The offense was pathetic at 18.9 ppg and whoever the QB is whether FA or Draft they better be able to move the ball passing better and get 22ppg minimum especially with the QB's Buffalo faces next year. -Have a RB who can take some carries from Shady to keep him fresh. Shady is a truely incredible player but age will catch him at some point. If the Bills can draft a guy like Nick Chubb who can be the future heir at RB but short term help to take some carries they really would extend Shady's shelf life another year while keeping him at his best.

For the very same reason you want Rudolph I want Jackson. His numbers are great, plays in a pro style offense that isn't nearly as talented as OSU, and in general has good size. Opinions will be all over for different QBs, I wanted Rudolph last year and came away frankly under whelmed after this season. But truthfully we have zero clue who will be good or bad its more or less a roll of the dice a lot of the time. We currently don't have an OC that can maximize the QB we have so that in itself is a problem which means we just need to hope that if a QB is drafted he is one who can do whats asked.

He might be available in the 3rd with how his mechanics are and the fact he is a spread system QB that scouts do not like