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This would be the point I remind the OP that Tyrod Taylor himself hit the open market and came BACK to Buffalo for less because suitors didn't think he was worth the money he wanted. Bridge QB's are exactly that and all it takes is one team possibly BUF that puts enough money and term on the table that sells them to come here.

No and honestly I could care less about them really did nothing for me as a fan. I think cheerleaders and other sports that have ice girls etc.. are eventually going to go to the wayside in sports in the next decade. Society is changing pretty quick and a lot of this is seen now as objectifying women by a lot of people not entertainment. Additionally as the NFL tries to expand its viewership and increase all demographics especially female I see them shifting away from that type of piece of entertainment during the game. Like I said it did nothing for me either way as a fan, but that is just kinda how I see things shaping out.

I wouldn't want to go unless I was concerned universally a Top 10 guy where at least I knew I wouldn't fall out of the first round. Although in general I would rather be with family and friends rather then the draft anyway.

I personally think they are more sold on Darnold then Rosen by a little. Rosen is the most pro ready QB in terms of skill and playing in a pro style offense, but Mayfield to me has the safer floor which to me is a QB equal to Joe Flacco pre ACL injury. Rosen I think could have higher upside but I could see him potentially flunking out in the wrong situation, I don't think Mayfield would flunk out.

Um excuse me but on Madden 2004 I directed the Lincoln Hawkeyes (Moved AZ Cards to Lincoln NEB we had sick unis) to 9 consecutive Super Bowls and we won 5. My football knowledge is vastly superior then virtually anyone on this board with the exception of maybe Dunkirk Don

O line is def a need and I expect them to add to it, but they still have some capable guys even with Wood out. That front 7 desperately needs an infusion of talent with Washington & Lawson not living up to expectations and pretty much Hughes being their only true solid player that is not ancient (no offense Kyle Williams haha).

I wouldn't say his drafting was that bad. He did draft Watkins, Bradham, Darby, Woods, Kiko, Goodwin, and Ross Cockrell all of which went on to be solid NFL contributors. 2013-14-15 he drafted 3-4 starters per draft and as others have mentioned he did really well grabbing guys like Hughes for pennies on the dollar and the McCoy trade really was a steal. Things went south for him for 3 big reasons: 1. EJ Manuel. EJ was his guy despite Buddy Nix being the "GM" at the time. He did grab Tyrod which worked out better, but had he grabbed a true franchise guy he is probably still here. 2. Rex Ryan. The roster Whaley had with Marrone was quite solid on D and this team misses a guy like Bradham at OLB who was a casualty thanks to Rex. The 2016 draft might as well of just been named the Rex Ryan GM draft because it was all his guys and everyone minus Lawson/Washington are gone which is incredibly bad. Fair or not to Whaley Rex was probably the worst type of coach for the type of roster Whaley was working with with how he churned through players. 3. Contracts. I am a believer sometimes its not a good thing when an owner tells a GM they can just spend money without regard. Whaley was relatively smarter pre-Pegula spending money. Once the go ahead was given in 2015 the contracts went out and we still are feeling these years later to the point 2019 will be the real year Buffalo finally is free of most of the dead money with the Bills having on paper for that year already 85 million in space not factoring in Eric Wood or Cordy Glenn either. I wouldn't say Whaley was bad in free agency either because he seemed pretty good at plugging holes like Brandon Spikes for Kiko or my personal favorite Bacarri Rambo. In the end I think Whaley was better then given credit for and with a second chance and the lessons learned he'd do a bit better also.

My belief is if the Bills plan on moving up they will be cutting Taylor so capspace wise they around 44-45 million. They need at minimum DT, DE, LB, and WR big time. With that capspace if they could grab Star Loutelli, DaQuan Jones, Avery Williamson, and Donte Montcrief to solidfy those big needs then sacrificing 2x 1st, a 2nd, a 4th, and next year 1st or 2nd would be plausable because they have enough quality players to fill holes. Free agency for me will be the big thing that shows their hand one way or another. I can't see them trading that high if they don't get 2 impact front 7 guys like Loutelli Jones or Williamson.

Probably because the NFL draft is littered with "can't miss guys" who bombed out and guys who "have major questions" that turned into studs. If the Bills like a guy to the point they feel that strongly then go for it and be done. It's better then waiting like they did with Losman and instead of going for Big Ben. Gunner good draft. It falls in line with a lot I've been reading. Only thing I may disagree with is Zona trading up to #4 I think the Browns want to draft high this year after acquiring soo much the last few years.

I mean on Madden I was able to groom Peterman into a 40TD machine and we won 3 straight SuperBowl so I don't see what is so hard about this championship thing

Offseason -LeVeon Bell agrees to a new 4 year 15 mil a year a deal with PIT setting a new bar for non QB players. Proceeds to get injured week 1 and completely make everyone regret that decision -Kirk Cousins signs with the Cleveland Browns. This creates a ripple effect where the Browns trade picks with the Jets who select Sam Darnold 1st overall, Browns also grab Barkley. -In the 1st 12 picks 5 QBs are taken (Darnold NYJ, Rosen NYG, Mayfield DEN, Allen ARZ by trade with SF, Jackson LAC by trade with CIN).. none by the Bills who can't move up to grab one and instead draft defense heavy in the 1st round. -The Bills do grab Mason Rudolph in the 2nd round though -Jimmy Graham also signs with the Browns thanks their boat load of cap space -Bill Belicheck announces it is his last season and Gronk does retire -Trumaine Johnson moves over to the 49ers from the Rams who quietly put together a good defense again 2018 Season -OAK rebounds from a disappointing 2017 by winning the top seed in AFC -PIT wins the AFC North only at 10-6 with Big Ben showing his age and lacking Bell to help out. Additionally the Browns finish a surprising 8-8 buyoed by a greatly improved offense and become the sexy future pick by NFL media -KC craters to 5-11 when Mahomes has an uneven season and the defense is filled with holes. Reid retires after this. -The Bills start off 1-4, but after Rudolph takes over for an injured Luke McCown he rallies the team to an 8-8 record going 7-4 and they just miss the playoff. But he gives fans a real belief that the QB position is ok finally. He also throws for 300 yards 3 times and Bills fans literally don't know what to do. -The AFC South is the division to beat in AFC with both Wildcards coming from there (IND & JAX) and Houston taking the division -In the AFC IND stuns a declining Patriots team in divisional round -The Eagles take the top seed in the NFC again at a blistering 14-2 record -Carson Wentz returns to wins MVP -The 49ers get a WC seed, but the real surprise is the Bears who finish at 9-7 with a greatly improved roster -The Packers fail to make the playoffs again despite a healthy AROD and Mike McCarthy is dismissed -Pete Carrol retires after another lack luster 8-8 season -Dallas returns not only to the playoffs but finally to the super bowl against the Oakland Raiders who dispatch the boys in a thrilling SB to bring one last title home to Oakland -And....a new Bills stadium is announced...not east of Buffalo... but downtown

Seattle truthfully I think is personal and potentially generational preference. I think they are one of the top 5 unis in the game and very distinctive. Some people view similarly others think they are trash. But they sell a ton of them and teams usually don't like to switch out of the uniforms they've won titles in. I have not heard of any changes to the Hawks at this point. Tampa Bay I agree is an abomination and to me was a downgrade when they switched to these. The people I follow on the uniform side like UniWatch have said there is talk at least to adjust the numbers. They did release the jerseys in 2014 so potentially they could make changes in 2019 if they wanted to. The Titans are releasing new uniforms this year in April.

There is a disturbance in the force I have felt it. Loads of "Bring Him In" and "Sign Him Now" threads are in preparation of invading our world

WRONG THE DECISION WOULD NEVER HAD HAPPENED IF THE ORGANIZATION WOULD NOT HAVE HIRED AN ANALYTICS TEAM. That is in caps because I literally listened to both the Eagles and the analytics company say as much. If you want to keep your head in the sand the same way a lot of baseball people did in the early 2000s be my guest and watch as others blow by you. No one is arguing that having years of knowledge in the NFL is invaluable and absolutely a major help to your team. For some reason people like yourself want to argue and deny that people who are numerically experts at formulating key numbers and predicting scenarios to help guide your decision making can add a tremendous value to any teams operation even though their background may not be in football. Every sport these days is adapting in some fashion to using analytics in some capacity because it can help increase a teams chances of not only winning but constantly evolving to be in the best place for success. Hockey was a sport where being physical was key and now its a fast paced puck controlled game because of analytics. Basketball has become a 3 point shooting paradise with big mens value greatly lowered because the game favors good shooters instead. Baseball has been covered well on the analytical impact. What's truly remarkable with this is no one is saying analytics is at all more important then having tremendous knowledge of the game, teaching fundamentals, and having a skilled coach. There is plenty of room for coexistence in a very healthy way that already has been proven to work. In regards to the draft the only thing major analytics people have said like Bill Barnwell is that having a lot of draft picks is key because the draft really is a lottery of luck and even he would say the Browns fundamentally messed up by continuously not selecting a QB.

It really depends on what they are having him do. If he is looking into formulas and simulations for situational analysis which would clearly show punting on 4th and 2 from the 40 is a poor decision or a certain formation for the team is more successful against X opponent etc.. then yea his background doesn't matter and that is information that can really help. The "gimmick" you refer to is a huge reason why the Eagles won the SB because the coaching staff realized with the numbers presented that playing it safe wasn't enough to really have a shot and it helped to shape the team of scheme and offense they ran. Now analytics in regards to say the draft? Yea I have no clue how much that really would help because I am not even sure what the heck you would quantify.

You are correct. Once you make a major change to your primary uniform you have to keep it for a minimum of 5 years. The league has to be notified by March 1st of the prior league year also. It can take up to two years for the jerseys to be changed between designing the uniforms, testing them for TV to make sure colors numbers and names all are readable, and just market testing in general. You can change the helmet and pants in certain ways ala the Rams this year but not the uniform. The Browns already are in the process apparently of revising their uniforms again by 2020 after just changing them in 2015. On a side point many people ask about the helmets and why the Bills can't do red or Patriots white for Pat the Patriot. The NFL has a one shell rule where the helmet a player wears has to be inspected by the league and approved. It is far too difficult to change the color weekly because of this which is why the standing Buffalo decal and stripes are easy to swap in, but its difficult to do the red.

To me the two tone helmets could've worked had they not made the difference so immediate between the two. The colors easily could've been blended better so it looked more natural and not forced. I still wish they would go back to their helmets that were black but when light it then they shone green also.

Good way to quantify this its really easy to understand

Im ok with this even with the 1sts because we have both 2nds and a 3rd so you can still fill the roster with potentially solid starters. But the name drafted better be one of Rosen, Mayfield, or Darnold otherwise I'd hate it.

That's a good point, I am just not sure how it rates moving that far back even with back to back picks.

I am using what has actually happened not a value chart not that it doesn't have merit. When the Rams put up the 2nd overall pick for RG3 it was to the highest bidder not a value chart. If the Colts or the Giants especially were to do that the cost will not be near what the value chart says because there are a lot of QB needy teams. Agreed. Allen to me is the guy scouts gush over in terms of potential which happens wayyy too often but the results never equal what you hope. Mayfield would be really fun.

Dude wtf does it matter? By the time you would get a true final result with any of these QBs or the two you have massive crush on from last draft your GM either will be here because he drafted his QB right or gone. People like you live in this prism that the rest of the team does not matter and literally everything is the QB or nothing. Second you basically want your team to lay their cards completely out for you on how exactly they view the QB's something no team every in their right mind wuld do. For as much as the NFL is a QB driven league the talent on your roster still really freaking matters as does your coach. The Bills had about 15 holes walking into last season and still have about another 10 to fill this offseason. They calculated correctly that this draft would have more QB talent, got a lot of picks to go after one and build the rest of the roster. If you look at some of the biggest successes at QB in the NFL they walked into situations where the team had talent so as the grew as a QB the rest of the roster was there to go from Brady to Rodgers and on the inverse biggest flops because of lack of talent/coaching.

Agreed which is why I don't think they move unless they like Mayfield and he available at 9 where they could swing with the 49ers. I bet they would take both 1sts and a 3rd next year (something like that). The Giants truly are the real wildcard. IF they decide not to go QB they could hold that 2nd pick for ransom pretty decent which I do think we have ammunition for. I'm just not sure they would want to go all the way to 21st even for say 3 1sts like the Redskins did.

With the draft nearing and excitement building for hopefully a new Bills QB drafted a lot of us have wondered what it would cost for the Bills to slingshot high up into the Top 5 range. Here are three recent examples we can base off of: Eagles get Carson Wentz Had 13th pick traded Kiko, Byron Maxwell, & 13th pick to Miami for 8. Then traded the #8 pick, their third-round pick, their fourth-round pick, a 2017 first-round pick, and a 2018 second-round pick for Cleveland's 2nd overall pick Cost: 2x 1sts (draft year plus 2017), 2nd 2018, 3rd rnd, 4th rnd, and a LB/CB which was a minor salary dump that no one understood on Miami's end haha. Eagles Draft Capital left: 3rd, 5th, 5th, 6th, 7th, and a 7th Rams get Jared Goff Had to trade their 15th pick two second-round picks, and a third-round pick in the 2016 draft along with a 1st and 3rd round pick in 2017. Rams received 4th and 6th pick back. Cost 2x 1st's (draft year and 2017), two seconds, two 3rds (draft year and 2017) for the pick. Redskins get RGIII Had to give three 1st round pick 2012 (22 that year), 2013, and 2014 plus 2nd round pick for RGIII. Cost: 3x 1st's and a 2nd. Realistically if the Bills are going to move up they are looking at giving 2x 1st round picks, a 2nd round pick, and either a 3rd or 4th round pick. Each trade route had a situation that cost a player or another draft chip. The Redskins would be the closest comparison for Buffalo because they picked 22nd in 2012 and managed to rocket up the board. Given the QB needs by a lot of teams in this draft my question would be would a team like the Giants or more likely the Colts who have a long term future plan a QB take an offer from Buffalo like both 1sts, 2019 1st, a 2nd, and Cordy Glenn? I truly don't know if that is enough ammunition because that is still a sizeable drop. I think IND maybe would consider that because it could help their offensive line and help replenish their roster, but if your Buffalo are you willing to do it if Rosen and Darnold both go 1-2 and your already down to the 3rd pick. These are the type of scenarios I think McBeane is having to consider if they really do plan on moving up.

What has he proved? Watson I get because we passed on him and so did a bunch of other teams and he was surreal last year. But the Mahomes buyer remorse makes zero sense to me when the guy played one game which didn't matter and was a typical rookie with some good some bad. With the fact Watson is good statistically its actually worse odds that Mahomes works out given the hit weight on first round QBs. Its insane how when a guy hasn't played more the a single game if at all people freak out like we missed on the guy when his trajectory is more likely Blaine Gabbert. I was one of the skeptics on Goff because of the system he played in at Cal and his first season being so awful. But he was able to prove a lot of us wrong. QB's are incredibly hard to predict and if the Bills draft Rudolph Im gonna hope for the best. Unless your name is Luck Manning or Elway someone doubted you I could see him as Flacco pre knee injury or even a guy like Golf who in the right scheme can be accurate and hit some deep throws.