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To me the confidence a lot of fans have has to do with finally having a streamlined message from top down. I am not sure if this is the year the drought ends or not we are only 8 weeks in, but it does look good and so does the decision making. Larger picture wise having the Owner, GM, and Coach all in unison is massive continuity wise. If you look since the drought we have rarely had things this streamlined: 2001-2005 GM Donahoe Coach: Williams- Mularky. There was some unison but Ralph wouldn't spend money, Mularky didn't agree with the JP pick and quit. That said this actually was the most successful period for the team drought wise until 2014 for what that is worth. Additionally at least Ralph tried entrusting a GM with power but again I don't remember much of an identity as an organization although the defense was quite good for the most part. 2006-07 GM: Marv Coach: Jauron You had basically a place holding GM with Ralph calling the shots otherwise. That is not the ideal situation for any team, but I remember being excited because Marv was Marv so yea. Retrospect this hampered us big time with those drafts and Jauron being as exciting as a flake of rice. Does anyone remember what their vision or identity? 2008-09 GM: Russ Brandon Coach: Jauron Yea read the GM and coach and it says all you need to know. A broken compass had more direction and identity. 2010-12 GM:Buddy Nix Coach: Gailey To Nix's credit he knew the team needed to start from the ground up and rebuild. I think the problem was they tried rushing the rebuild once the 5-1 start happened and should've been more aggressive to get a QB drafted. I do remember Gailey wanting a fast passing attack so for that there was an identity to remember. Nix & Gailey also seemed the most on the same page we had at GM/Coach since Williams and Donahoe in 2002. Empowering Fitz was their undoing and the team's base talent was not enough which bit them hard in 2012. 2013-17 GM: Whaley Coach: Marrone/Ryan Marrone at least had a competent team in terms of discipline and got the team closer to the playoffs then in a long time. You could say with him and Whaley the identity was defense. Unfortunately a power struggle developed so the GM/Coach were on separate pages after year one. With Rex Ryan I am not sure Whaley even had a say in that and the amount of leaks in regards to dysfunction highlighted a pretty bad GM/Coach relationship. That said I would defend Whaley a little because Rex Ryan managed to regress a pretty good defense and the team seemed to win in spite of him a lot. Looking at this I think we maybe had two instances where people seemed to be on the same page. The period from 2005-2010 was such a wasteland of GM/Coach and awful drafting. I have zero clue if Beane/McD will be the saviors or not, but they have started well and are operating far more competent then we have seen in a very long time which is a strong sign IMO given that most of the top teams in the league operate like that.

yeaa he is toast he won't be playing this weekend.

Sorry but the 300 yard passing freakout take is really poorly constructed. Carr had to throw the ball nearly 50 times to hit over 300 yds and most of his yardage ended up being garbage. After the Bills scored to make it 27-14 Carr was only at 178 yards by the start of the 4th. I know beacuse I was there and literally saw the scoreboard say as much once we scored. Buffalo basically said sure go ahead and try to score we aren't giving anything big up. All of Carr's yard were basically underneath throws to the RB after. Against the Bengals the Bills allowed two very bad deep plays to Green which basically came down to White being a rookie. It happens against All pro WR's like Green and with how well White shadow'd Cooper I would say he adjusted quite well. In regards to pass rush the Bills just faced Carr who gets the ball out nearly as fast as Brady. Good luck getting pressure the key is what they did, no big plays and force bad passes to get 3 and outs. Winston wasn't much different. If your going to freak about the defense it should be because the LB core still is questionable in coverage and if Gaines/Poyer are out an extended period at some point the secondary will have a holes at points in coverage.

Not trying to start a pissing match but Micah Hyde was a quite well respected SAF league wide and GB hated losing him. Gaines actually was quite good in previous seasons minus injuries and a year with bad scheme but that was the Rams D in general. Otherwise agree with what you said on warning signs.

No. At that time he was considered BPA and the issue with Marcel outside of work ethic was contract. Had the contract been more reasonable I think he isn't viewed nearly as flawed during the back half of his time here. I thought I'd feel gunshy when they drafted a CB after just having Gilmore but idk you draft with what you can and it looks like he was BPA and filled a void.

Numbers are not everything and if your looking at just Yds/TDs then yea he won't. Taylor has graded quite highly by top NFL analysts this season thus far especially with the lack of weapons at WR and injuries we have had. Like I said IF the Bills make the playoffs he will get a lot of praise and a state line of 3500 yds 23 TDs with 4 TO's is nothing to snear at in the least and NFL voters won't. Also like I said who is the next best QB after Brady/Watson/Smith? Carr who Taylor and the Bills beat? Big Ben who has 12 TDs to 9 picks and looks old? Mariota who was injured for 2 games and plays in a very offense less dangerous then ours currently? Maybe Andy Dalton I guess..? All I am saying is if the Bills stay on current playoff path Tyrod deserves consideration for the nod and even if he is an alternate it still would be a fair honor to him.

Oh snap good pick forgot about that. Yea absolutely

So I started thinking about this yesterday on the ride home from the game of when Pro Bowl selection time comes who the Bills would have selected. While the Bills are 5-2 this really is a team effort and there are 3 guys who at this point I would expect in: LeSean McCoy: Even before his running resurgence the last two weeks he was still on pace for 900 yds rushing and 500 receiving. Now its a lot higher haha. Micah Hyde: Leads the NFL in INT's, is probably the leader of this defense, and has been sensational all over the field this year. TreDavious White: The Bills replaced a Pro Bowl alternate with a guy who deserves to be a Pro Bowl starter. Simply put his play has been remarkable and other then two bad plays against the Bengals no one is beating this guy. Cooper was shut down all day once White was on him. It typically is hard for rookie to crack the lineup in the Pro Bowl, but White and Lattimore from the Saints are playing like exceptions to this rule. The following players are guys I think have a shot or absolutely could be alternates: Richie Incognito: If the running game stays at pace the O Line will get credit and Richie is in general highly respected league wide. Tyrod Taylor: Outside of Buffalo he is highly respected league wide, his numbers are good when you include his rushing stats which is part of his game, and if the Bills make the playoffs he will get a lot of credit for it. Plus after Brady/Watson/Alex Smith who is the fourth best QB currently in the AFC? Tyrod at least can put his name in there. Jordan Poyer: His play and stats reflect a Pro Bowl year. But games played and the odds of two safeties from a team being selected do limit his chances. Add in Hyde being a little higher profile and leading the league in INT's and Poyer is behind him. Not impossible but I think only the Seahawks send that many guys secondary wise. Jerry Hughes: Everything I have read has praised how good Hughes has been at the edge this year between stopping the run and forcing the QB into bad throws. I think he needs to get his sack numbers up to be near or over 10 to really have a chance just because voters like sack numbers.

Jets---------W Saints------W Chargers--L Chiefs------L Patriots----W Colts-------W Miami------W Patriots----L Miami------W 11-5 we make the playoffs and the rapture arrives because we aren't allowed nice things.

Beemer...benz... or bentley!?

A pick which the Eagles mortgaged a lot to trade up. Yes it's working and good for Philly but your blatantly ignoring it was a risk to move up. Second are you actually bringing up a tank discussion at this point in the season? The single best thing about the current coach and GM is the fact they seem to have a true plan, have excellent attention to detail, and are doing a very sound job at creating a team. You can tank all you want but as the Sabres and Colts have shown if you don't have the organization surrounding to support your guy it will not matter. You can point out your examples like Wentz who was once again traded for pick wise, but your ignoring the fact the best organizations are run well from top down. Yes you still need to find a QB, but this mindless zombie like obsession of being the worst solely for the reason of getting the pick of the QB litter is just insanely stupid and not well thought out.

To start excellent English "weed" and "specktackle". Second the NFL actually brought back celebrations because the league was so tight with anything so I will take an occasional overboard celebration compared to the way things were before this year. Third go yell at a cloud old timer.

I would slow down a bit here and use some perspective. The Bills did allow 300 yards against Cincy which inflates their stats but 77 yards of it was an AJ Green TD which he got a rookie (White) to bite on a route and had him by a step them. Tampa Bay has one of the most explosive rosters in terms of offensive talent and Buffalo forced 3 TO's and held them to 27 pts with Gaines out for half the game. I think your a bit jaded because its been 17 years of rough times and we look for trouble anywhere we can as Bills fans because we have become conditioned to. I personally thought they were toast down 27-20 because that was the type of game we always lose despite having numerous chances to win. The secondary will have better weeks coming up and it probably will have a few downers just because its hard to be that good a lot and its still a new defense finding its way. As long as White, Gaines, Poyer, & Hyde are starting I feel pretty confident in what we have and can handle the lumps along the way.

The one shot for Metallica was SB 50 because it was in the Bay Area where they are from and it would've been kick a$$. Andddddd instead they wimped out by going with Coldplay and friends which was godawful.

If I was JT I would show my left nipple at the end as a joke about what happened.

Assuming PIT/NE/KC win their divisions these 4 are our main competition at this point IMO: HOU/TEN- Very possible with IND cratering they each get to 10 wins OAK- This game is massive in our fate, W goes a long way. MIA- Their defense is solid and if they just keep Moore in I no longer see this as a sweep and instead really tough games These 2 I could are close to being a major issue and a few unexpected W's by either make a problem: JAX- Their QB is still a major ? but their D and RB is legit. Given their ease in schedule I can easily see them at 9 maybe 10 wins CINCY- Tougher schedule but they can win their fair share of games and they own us on tiebreaker so if we are at 9 W's each uh oh These two are darkhorses who I wouldn't put money on or against despite each having flaws: BAL- Their defense is pretty decent and if Flacco ever figures himself back out into a bit of the QB he has been they can win some games. Plus they have won games in the past on the road in tough places like PIT. I am not underselling them yet. LAC- They have gotten back into the picture, have a potentially good-great offense at points, and D can make plays. Their stadium has issues and they have no homefield advantage, but they play anyone tough.

Yea Ballard came in well respected and thought in the NFL. He has had a few months and 7 games to make an impact with Luck out thanks to Grigsons awful O line construction. I never understood why Pagano wasn't given the pink slip either. Just seems like delaying the inevitable plus the fans unrest only grows with each loss by the current coach.

Depends on how close the lot is and if they are open to having patrols. If I am not mistaken the one piece of legislature that was up saying if you have a private lot you have to allow police inspections failed to pass in the town of OP and county.

Legally how are you going to shut down a private lot. No snark here, truly asking? The Bills, town of OP, Police, & County tried to get legislation through that would've allowed officers to go through private lots to do that and it was knocked down. While the people in private lots do a lot of stupid things, its very hard to say were shutting down the lot because someone jumped through a table thats on fire. You can shut it down if their is underage drinking although that in itself is hard to prove at points. Basically while a lot of this stuff is dumb and at points dangerous there is nothing illegal happening. Like I said its hard for the parties above because legally they don't have a lot of room here when its not public property. Even something like public intoxication won't fly because its private.

That to me is biggest irony of all of this.

I believe this tenfold especially after the barstool video documentary and the way things have been this season. However I will say this, the Bills lots themselves I have never seen a person jump through a table, get lit on fire, list of other crazy stuff etc... It is all a 100% private lots. This unfortunately one of those really tough middle grounds because Bills fans are doing these actions so the team and their lots get associated despite it not happening there. I know the Bills, the town of OP, and county are really frustrated because what is happening occurs on private property and it is incredibly hard for cops to go there and shut it down without cause. And given the fact cops would need a warrant and the constitution has laws against unreasonable search and seizure it really it tricky for them to limit this behavior. I would also add that despite the videos I have thought fan behavior has improved greatly over the last 5-6 years in the stadium and I haven't seen nearly the issues compared to pre 2012. I would also add that perhaps the tipping point of this may have been the fan who was so drunk and died in the creek during the night game. I honestly thought after that you would've seen stronger attempts at curbing fan behavior even though it occurred in a private lot.. Instead it almost seems like open season instead for fan behavior and mix social media into it you have a perfect storm.

Sorry but this is a really poor take. I don't disagree that the D wasn't at its best today, but it shouldnt have been a game given the two turnovers they forced if the offense scored. Second they are the reason we beat Atlanta and in Cincy again gave the offense multiple chances to take the game. If your honestly gonna blast the D for Cincy when they gave the offense multiple chances and White had a learning game against a Top NFL WR idk what to tell you other then stop watching

It's why I am honestly stunned Aaron Rodgers doesn't have at least another Super Bowl and why the 2014 NFC Championship looks/feels like such a failed opportunity for GB in retrospect. He is the best pure QB in the game other then Brady and the NFC only had offered basically Matt Ryan/Romo against him as an equal. Eli and Russell Wilson are a notch below Matt Ryan/Romo to me. He still has time to get another ring or two, but there are a lot of QB's who also had their shot and never got back to a SB again or even got to a SB. And with how open the NFC looks again this year that injury completely sucks for him because I think most had GB as the favorite or one of the Top 3 teams.

Agreed although it is cyclical. The Bills, Chiefs, Dolphins, and Broncos dominated from the mid 80s until 99. The difference to me is the rules allowed QB's to get hit less so guys like Brady, Manning, Big Ben, & Rivers all in the AFC have gotten a life cycle far longer then the previous generations of QB's who melted down around 10-12 years not 13-16 years like we are seeing. Since the 2000 AFC parity really has been a joke. Here is the list of teams from the NFC that have made the SB: PHI, 3x NYG, 2x CAR, ATL, NO, TB, GB, CHI, STL/LA, 3x SEA, SF, & ARZ. 12 of the 16 NFC Teams have made it which is pretty awesome that 75% of your conference has hit that point of success. In regards to the NFC title game only DAL, WSH, & DET have failed to make that in the last 17 years. Now compared to the AFC in SB: NE, PIT, BAL, IND, DEN. A paltry 6 of 16 teams in the AFC only 37%. That really doesn't give much hope or enthusiasm to AFC fan bases and over time only drowns down the energy for teams. It would be nice to see over the next two decades if the AFC could get some more representation for different teams once these guys retire. I myself was honestly not that into the last two SB's given how often Brady and Manning have been around. I think the media likes the story lines of those guys for ratings, but KC or HOU at this point would be a welcome change.

Agreed that in terms of padding and helmets etc.. a lot more should be done, especially for the head. I just don't want additional rules.