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Tyrod over Jackson??? Oh boy... the QB order I want is Mayfield THEN Darnold THEN Rosen (though skeptically) THEN Jackson. If we get one of those first 3, I think this board will generally be very peaceful for awhile. I want any of those 3 guys before Jackson, ESPECIALLY Mayfield. But I'll be happy with Jackson. Unfortunately, if we draft Jackson, apparently all hell is going to break loose and this board is going to divide in half again. I get it, a 13 on the wonderlic means he's dumb as rocks. It's that simple for some folks. Have you looked at that test? Have you taken it? Here, take it https://footballiqscore.com/ I can understand the reasoning for measuring a QB's cognitive ability as far as processing football plays in a timely manner. What I cannot understand are how 50 question that have to do with analogies, puzzles and mathematical equations in 12 minutes equates to football success. I just looked at the test, hit start and tried it for the first time at work 'cause I had a free 12 minutes. I got a 22. I also got an 1130 on my SATs. Whatever those numbers are or how people view those numbers, I don't view those numbers as measurements of my intelligence because, frankly, I'm a bad test taker. (Or I view myself as one as, at the very least, I'm self-aware enough to realize that just comes off as an excuse). But as far as "bad test-takers," some people are. I also suck at math and am at least 15 years removed from doing any real math at this point in my life. I'm sure I could score higher than that 22 if I separated myself from all the distractions at work and really focused rather than just deciding to throw 12 minutes at 50 questions for fun. But I already took that test and now I'm tied to that 22 because maybe I didn't take it as seriously as I should have or maybe I didn't understand the appropriate test taking strategy for this test was to just skip any question I get caught on so I can answer as many correctly as possible. All tests are different. I understand that Lamar Jackson doesn't talk the way we think of "face-of-the-franchise QBs" talk. He's not articulate or outspoken the way we think a QB should be. But that doesn't mean he's not smart in his own way or smart enough to play QB. And it certainly doesn't mean his teammates wouldn't follow him as a leader. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2662128-the-education-of-lamar-jackson-how-louisville-qb-went-from-project-to-superstar The Education of Lamar Jackson: How Louisville QB Went from Project to Superstar He picked Louisville, knowing coach Bobby Petrino's history of developing QBs. Then Petrino delivered the playbook. "It looked like foreign letters," Jackson remembers. "I came from a high school where I didn't have a playbook or anything like that. Coach would draw it up and get the headset on, and we'd go after it." and And so when Jackson arrived on campus, he was not even named among the three guys who might be the starting quarterback. The playbook was still Greek to him, as were progressions, tight ends in motion and blitzes. Darn blitzes. That was a year ago. A few days ago, he threw for six touchdowns and ran for two more. and "At first, I was like, 'Why are they trying to make me do this?'" Jackson says. "'I'm trying to sleep.' It was crazy. I'd watch my bad plays—my good plays, too." The truth is, at first he wasn't even sure exactly what he was watching. Then it started making sense, and he realized he enjoyed it. "When I started getting more into it, I realized, 'This is what I'm here for.'" and Petrino says some of the things usually considered "natural intangibles" need to be worked on, too. For example, last year, Jackson was petrified to talk with the media. So he took a media class and also enlisted the help of a local reporter.

Yep. Has anyone ever been so wildly unsuccessful as a QB at such a small college against such crappy competition and been drafted super high and come into the NFL and been a Franchise QB? That's a legit question. Can anyone identify anyone?

Who are the top 4? If Allen is in the top 4, then I agree there will be a good QB outside of the top 4. His name is Lamar Jackson. I don't think Allen belongs in the top 4. Or the top 5... because I'd prefer Rudolph over Allen, too.

Totally disagree. QB is everything. Haven't we friggin figured that out, yet? We might be able to swing trading up to #2 for, say, both our 1sts and both our 2nds this year plus a 1st or 2nd next year. Considering we'd still have 5 picks this year and a ton of Cap space next offseason, we would absolutely not be mortgaging our future, especially considering that what we "paid" to get some of the draft picks we would give away were assets McDermott and Beane didn't want, anyway (Tyrod, Sammy, & Darby) or never even had the opportunity to utilize at all due to injury (Glenn). We're still in good shape if we trade up to #2 and the above is about all it takes. If we only had to trade up a few spots or somehow managed to stay at #12 and still manage to get "our guy," I think we'll be in exceptional shape and will expect us to be Super Bowl contenders by 2019.

Yes, there is. What's with the ridiculous new trend on this board of just copying and pasting song lyrics and changing 2 or 3 words thinking it's really clever? Has there been an inundation of junior high kids on this board no one told me about?

The Bills will draft a QB at 12 or earlier in a trade up. Obviously...

It's funny but I look at this differently. I think Jackson is probably the 3rd or 4th best QB in this draft (wavering between him and Darnold) but I think he's the 2nd most likely to be a superstar behind Mayfield, who I desperately want us to draft. Rosen and Darnold are both probably going to have long successful pro careers (especially Rosen), which is why I'll still be happy drafting either guy, but honestly, I think Jackson and Mayfield have a higher potential to be special.

Mayfield!!! Mayfield!!! Mayfield!!! If we don't end up with Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen or Jackson at QB, this draft will be an epic fail for me until I use the 4 1/2 months that's between the draft and the regular season to delude myself otherwise.

I finally got through the bulk of this thing. Thanks for posting! My thoughts that Mayfield is best-in-class are partly reaffirmed here, though he argues more strongly for Rosen. From the beginning I've said Mayfield, Darnold and Jackson are the 3 guys I'll be most excited to draft. This certainly doesn't change that. Though it's interesting the very direct tie the analyst makes between Lauletta and Buffalo.

I rarely listen to these podcasts, but I really enjoyed this one... thanks for posting it Dear Lord I seriously hope Mayfield ends up in a Bills uniform. There's almost starting to be too much smoke here.

Sheesh... talk about a temper tantrum Anything is possible, but it’s pretty obvious McDermott and Beane are targeting trading further up in the draft so one of those 4 guys I say are more probable than Jackson or Rudolph, though I think Jackson is a possibility

My thought, too

Why? Is he expecting to drop precipitously in the 1st round?

I'd love it honestly if we stayed put at 12 and he slid to us and we got him there because that chip on his shoulder would likely grow even bigger being the 3rd or 4th QB drafted with 11 teams passing him over. The problem is that I have the feeling he's blowing a lot of teams away in his private meetings and he's going to be gone by pick #3. I want him in a Bills uniform.

6' 5/8 according to the Combine

There just seems to be a lot of shade being thrown at Jackson here as though the wonderlic is icing on the cake. Yeah, you want your QB to be smart, but football smart. Why is it important for a QB to be able to quickly do arithmetic or solve analogies or state what's the 8th month in the year? It's been debated whether the Wonderlic is racially biased or not. I don't know and don't want to debate that. But what I do know, from professional experience as a teacher: standardized tests are being weighed less and less by colleges, which are looking at the all-around student. Jackson has incredible natural physical talent, but is he football smart and willing to work? I think so: https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2662128-the-education-of-lamar-jackson-how-louisville-qb-went-from-project-to-superstar.amp.html The Education of Lamar Jackson: How Louisville QB Went from Project to Superstar He picked Louisville, knowing coach Bobby Petrino's history of developing QBs. Then Petrino delivered the playbook. "It looked like foreign letters," Jackson remembers. "I came from a high school where I didn't have a playbook or anything like that. Coach would draw it up and get the headset on, and we'd go after it." and And so when Jackson arrived on campus, he was not even named among the three guys who might be the starting quarterback. The playbook was still Greek to him, as were progressions, tight ends in motion and blitzes. Darn blitzes. That was a year ago. A few days ago, he threw for six touchdowns and ran for two more. and "At first, I was like, 'Why are they trying to make me do this?'" Jackson says. "'I'm trying to sleep.' It was crazy. I'd watch my bad plays—my good plays, too." The truth is, at first he wasn't even sure exactly what he was watching. Then it started making sense, and he realized he enjoyed it. "When I started getting more into it, I realized, 'This is what I'm here for.'" and Petrino says some of the things usually considered "natural intangibles" need to be worked on, too. For example, last year, Jackson was petrified to talk with the media. So he took a media class and also enlisted the help of a local reporter.

Yeah... that Jim Kelly guy really sucked

God I hope we draft Mayfield or Jackson

Mayfield is my #1, but both Darnold and Jackson are right behind him. Staying put at 12 and drafting Jackson while filling a ton of other holes makes a lot of sense

For me, there are 3 QBs I'm getting very excited about: Darnold, Mayfield and Jackson. We should (theoretically) be able to stay put at 12 and land Jackson. We might get Mayfield there, but probably not. We definitely need to trade up to get Darnold. Those 3 guys I think set this team up well at the QB position.

Trade up. If you view the picks we currently have as a result of Beane prioritizing building a team over finding a Franchise QB and getting him, you just haven't been paying attention. When it comes to the draft, get Franchise QB 1st. Build team 2nd.

Please please please please please please please please let this be true!!!

Definitely a well-thought rationale here. I agree with you about Mayfield not being the guy they want... but I really really really hope we're wrong. If we trade up for Josh Allen while Mayfield slides I'm gonna stick a fork in my hand.

First of all, I agree that Beane is going to try like hell to trade up to #2, hence the thread... trying to logically ease the minds of some people weirdly freaking out about the prospect of doing something Beane and McDermott have pretty clearly been preparing to do for nearly a year. Second of all, can you explain what Beane did or said in this presser to lead you to these conclusions? Just curious. Why do you think the Bills would like Allen more than any other QB in this draft? Oh boy I hope for the sake of this fan base we don't end up with a Center and LB in this draft as you're essentially pushing here with your unwillingness to trade up.