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It's not about hating Tyrod the person... you're smarter than that. Some of you hate him as a QB, which is why I added the phrase "as a QB" after the word "hate." And what a strange double-standard... so we can crucify a player if we don't like what we see of him at the Combine because "it's against air" but can't praise them for the same reasons? Let's all just go by what scouts and teams are likely using the most of in their evaluations: game tape. And Jackson looks electrifying as both a passer and a runner. If it scares you because he's too similar to Tyrod... well... that just seems like a weak argument. And you're ridiculously generalizing the entire message board assuming that because less than 78% of the message board don't believe TT will be back this year that a similar number of people would be against Jackson. That's 2 preposterous things you've insinuated now: 1) If we draft Jackson our attendance and viewership is likely to go down and 2) Feelings about TT = Feelings about Jackson

Another notch in Mayfield's belt... He's dreamy

Yeah... ticket sales won't slide if we draft Jackson. That seems like a preposterous prediction on your part. Do you hate Jackson as a QB as much or more as you hate Tyrod as a QB?

So you'll cringe if we draft Jackson?

We want a good athlete? I thought TBD consensus was that it's time to move away from all these good athletes at the QB position... so confused My QBs I'll be excited for are Mayfield & Darnold in a trade up or Jackson & Rudolph staying put at 21/22. I'd take Jackson over Rudolph, but there's a good chance even he won't be there at 21/22. So if what we're left with is Rudolph at 21/22 and McBeane take him, it's because they really like him. So I'll be super excited. I'll deal with Rosen and get excited if we trade up for him. But seriously question both his injury history and especially his general demeanor, love for the game and being a "leader of men." For that reason I just really doubt he's on our radar in the way the National media is reporting. I just don't think he's the right type of leader McDermott would want. Just a hunch, nothing more. Don't touch Allen with an 87-foot pole... I guess a 90-footer would be okay, though Me too, but Rosen would unsettle me a little.

What about Andrew Luck... is he in play?

Wow... tough crowd. The guy has the size, ability, intangibles/leadership and production. Don't know what's not to like about him. I sure as hell don't want to see us trade up for him. And I really won't be upset if we pass on him. But what about him do you dislike so much? On the flip side, I'll break my TV if we draft Allen.

Good stuff... thanks for this Hap. I've been moving guys around with who I want most, but Rudolph is the guy my gut wanted 2nd most as the season ended before I really started diving into everything. Mayfield was #1, and still is. I'd be super excited about Rudolph at #21.

Mayfield or Darnold please... at least we're half in agreement

Damn... we aren't "flying him in"... ? Smokescreen? Mind already made up? We love him? We hate him? Which is it?! I want to know!!!

Fair enough, but if we do trade up I really hope it's not for Rosen. Go get Mayfield or Darnold. I'm just not the biggest fan of Rosen.

So interesting... in a way, I completely understand what you're saying here. We haven't had a franchise quarterback and an obvious one since what 1996 with Jim Kelly? We're desperate for one; we're starved for one; we obviously need one. No one would deny that. And yet, we just made the playoffs for the first time in 17 freaking years! And yes, Taylor was a big contributor to making the playoffs. Deny that as one may, he was. Maybe he wasn't as big a contributor as other team's quarterbacks who made the playoffs, but a team's quarterback will almost naturally be the biggest contributor individually on that team and so it's illogical and unreasonable to do what Bills fans have been doing this offseason in this endless condemnation of Taylor. But it's a visceral thing and I get it considering the 2+ decades without a Franchise QB. But do you think the Eagles fans are celebrating less because it wasn't a Franchise QB who won them a Super Bowl? Do you think Jags or Vikings fans are despondent because it wasn't a Franchise QB who got them to a conference championship game? Look but don't settle and don't pay a King's ransom for a guy you don't love. If the Bills trade up, I expect it's because McBeane loves the guy. Otherwise I think they stay put and probably see if they can suck the marrow of success out of Tyrod.

Bwahahahahaha!!! Folks... look at who has the weakest arm... wow... what a bunch crap. Doesn't seem to jibe with reality... in the same way Tyrod was measured as having a weak arm But according to this, Jackson's arm is weaker than Tyrod's... and both their arms are weaker than EVERY other QB measured at the 2018 Combine. Anyone else?

Look, I'm not advocating that as an option number one, but I definitely think it's something they are considering doing very strongly. I really think they like Taylor a lot more than fans and the media believe they do. And they will bank on the uproar over not replacing him (whether warranted or not) dying down in the months to follow the draft, which it largely will especially if the team has seriously upgraded other positions with young players. I want Mayfield. I want Darnold. I guess I'll be excited about Rosen, though I don't like his injury history or his demeanor. We draft those 3 guys, it's because we moved up in the draft and trade Tyrod probably. Super stoked and I'm good with that I just don't think it's all that likely. Have you really examined the age of this team? We're running into trouble in the next few years. So at best, I think we take Jackson or Rudolph at #21 and load up on all our other positions after that. And I really don't think that Beane is seriously in the Foles or Cousins sweepstakes. So, while I understand your feelings... you might need to brace for one more year of Tyrod Taylor.

Thanks for the post BLM. I would seriously be super stoked about the Bills trading up in the draft for a QB. I'd really much rather trade up for Darnold or Mayfield, but I'd be fine with Rosen. I understand why everyone assumes we're trading up for a QB in the draft, but I don't think it happens. McDermott and Beane seem like long term thinkers... I don't think this is the year they necessarily planned on absolutely getting their Franchise QB.

Bradford? Yuck! Rudolph better develop by like week 6 when Bradford has a season ending knee injury, then.

Taylor for another year, build up the roster with young talent with the 4 picks we have in the first 2 rounds and 8 picks we have in the first 5 rounds, re-sign Joe Webb for one more year as our 3rd string QB, and then go for broke for a QB through FA, trade, or draft next year. I think this is something McDermott and Beane are willing to do. The fact that McDermott said "we are not as far along as everyone thinks we are" is a big indicator to me that he wants to build the core of this team, which as of last September was the 2nd oldest roster in the NFL and 9th oldest in terms of starting lineup. This board will go nuts, but I think it's probably option B or option C rather than option "HELL NO!!!" as some think it is.

Didn't the Bills spend a lot of time with someone like Bryce Petty a couple years ago? To the point where they met up with him before the draft and took him out to dinner or something with Pegula? Beane and McDermott are doing their due diligence on the most important position in Football, but I wouldn't just assume that they're so intent on drafting a Franchise QB that they'll give up a bunch of picks to trade up or that they'll just ignore any worries or red flags they might have.

Not the biggest fan of Rosen. I like him more than Allen, but I can see teams questioning his injury history, general demeanor and love for the game. He's behind Mayfield, Darnold, and Jackson for me.

I agree, he probably has some serious plans to use them. But it might be to address all the other aging/weak positions on our team. McDermott keeps on stressing how much this is a process and recently talked about how this team isn't nearly as far along as people think it is. The Bills have 5 draft picks in the 1st 3 rounds, which are the rounds that are supposed to yield NFL starters. As of last September, the Bills had the 2nd oldest roster in the NFL and the 9th oldest starting lineup in the NFL: http://nfltraderumors.co/nfl-rosters-ranked-average-age/ http://www.espncricinfo.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/29045/cardinals-have-nfls-oldest-roster-browns-the-youngest I want McBeane to trade up in this draft for Mayfield or maybe Darnold or stay put and draft Jackson. But I think Beane and McDermott have a good amount of flexibility with the Pegulas knowing that we just broke the longest playoff drought in all of American sports in 2017. As much as people would absolutely hate it, flooding this roster with young (and cheap!) talent through the draft and "punting" (as Rodak puts it) the QB position for one more year isn't the worst option for this team. Address your aging team and build up your roster and roll with Taylor for one more year, and then be off the hook next year with regards to him and invest everything you can into that QB with a younger, stronger team in place. It's certainly a possibility.

I don't. I don't think any vet QB is our target for starting QB next year. Less than a week and the new league year starts... finally.

Because Baker Mayfield had one of the best 2 years in college football history passing the football over the last 2 year runs against high level competition, whereas Allen played for a bleh team in a bleh conference and put up bleh numbers. Not saying Allen absolutely will be a bust... but he's a buttload more likely to bust than any of the top 5 or 6 prospects.

Okay, but he lasted 4 years, not 2, unlike what Coach Tuesday said. Almost zero percent chance Beane is fired after this season.

Didn't Whaley last 4 years with EJ and Taylor?

I think if we draft Jackson there's going to be a faction of this board up in arms about how Jackson is just Taylor 2.0 and McBeane failed before even seeing him play. Gonna be hilarious if he's who we draft... and I think he's our most likely pick And FTR, I want Mayfield then Darnold then Jackson then Rosen then Rudolph then Allen... in that order.