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Was this really necessary? Yeah, most sane people on this board understand that we don't know what Beane is going to do or plans to do. But it's 6 weeks before the draft... what's left for everyone to do but speculate? I get that you're frustrated because we have so long until the draft so we're inevitably going to be seeing a lot more of these prediction threads. And I feel bad for TBD old-timers because this is getting ridiculous in terms of thread after thread after thread being started... to the point where it's starting to look too much like BBMB 2.0. But I also think people are antsy and need to vent in their apprehension. This might be the most important draft we've seen since 1983. We're clearly going after our QB for the next 10-15 years and everyone knows who they want or don't want. And we have a long time to wait to find out. Just gotta deal with all the white noise, unfortunately.

So Hap... you think 21 to 12 is that "mild trade-up" for Jackson you hoped for?

Sure hope so

Yes, it drove it up a lot, but it was always going to cost us a lot to move up into the top of the draft. Maybe this just increases our chances of staying put at 12 and drafting whoever falls. As long as that's not Allen, I'm good with that. I'm sure McCarron is ecstatic right now.

McDermott and Gettleman have a relationship. Maybe they already have an agreement to trade even if they haven't agreed on trade capital, yet. Maybe all this did is drive up our price a little bit.

Giants and Gettleman are our trade partners, anyway. I'd wait until draft day to execute it, though. See what the Browns do with pick #1.

...or 2

, which means we don't. Awesomeness

Yes... Bruschi's a douche. He's also a Pats homer, though, so I suspect that's at play here. I don't like Rosen as much as some, but he's going to play in Buffalo if he's drafted. If he weren't going to, McDermott and Beane will figure it out beforehand.

Nah, not can't argue... won't... at least not with you. See, it's not an unwillingness to back up what I've said, which I could easily do both here as well as in that Tyrod thread that was nearly a month old you shamelessly bumped in such a sad manner. It's a refusal to participate in the inevitable ridiculously circular and narrow-minded arguments you're bound to bring in while presenting it as strong evidence, even when it's refuted time and time again. Yep, I've been wrong about multiple things on this message board as it relates to Taylor. I'm aware. So have you. Are you aware? Or is your extreme arrogance (glad you could admit that... good for you... it's a step) clouding your judgement here? Oh, and just to let you know: Tyrod Taylor now plays for the Browns, not the Bills. Why do you keep talking about the Browns QB? Sour grapes?

Rudolph over Jackson at 12???? You're nuts

Sooooo.... here's an interesting statement by Beane that, to me, might be a slip by Beane that the Bills are targeting Lamar Jackson: "There are some guys that we were talking about right before we went to the combine with our scouts, and I'm like, 'We're wasting our time with this guy. He ain't falling to 21. This guy is a top-10, 12 -- he ain't getting past 15." 15, huh? Who has been the team most linked to Lamar Jackson? Just try googling "team most likely to draft Lamar Jackson" and right now this is the 1st link: https://www.google.com/amp/s/draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/02/04/2018-nfl-mock-draft-lamar-jackson-carson-palmer-cardinals/amp/ Very interesting. I still think we're pretty clearly moving up, but specifically referencing the Cardinals draft spot might be a sign. Mayfield/Darnold/Rosen in a trade up or Jackson at 12 and I'm stoked!!!!

Lotulelei, obviously. Fills a need with plenty of talent and should anchor this team at DT for years to come

Keep on goin with your feigned arrogant objectivity, Thurm You must be stalking me, now. Are you secretly hoping the team drafts Allen so we can keep up our relationship?

Nooooooooooooo!!!!! Allen is seriously the ONLY QB I won't be excited about if we draft. I'll get behind the pick eventually, but I really really don't want us to draft him. Mayfield/Darnold/Rosen/Jackson damn well better be our targets. No more of these raw talents drafted purely based on physical potential!!!

McCarron with this contract because it makes it that much easier for a rookie we draft to start at any point, including potentially week 1 in 2018. We got McCarron for less than 1/3rd of the price of what Taylor would have cost us this year. We have a great QB situation for a 1st round rookie to come in and compete against some legit competition rather than a JAG like Savage or Moore so that if the rookie wins the job out the gate, we have a really good backup QB. Win win

I'm just so freakin excited! Even in signing McCarron, it's very obvious that were still going to draft a QB at worst at 12 if not trading into the top five, which is still what I think we're going to do. As long as we can get Mayfield or Darnold or Rosen or Jackson, I'm super stoked! If we trade up to draft Allen, I'm running head-first into a wall.

Yes we will. That's what all these moves acquiring draft picks has been for. QB at 12 if not a trade up into the top 5.

Just curious... are certain posters (*ahem* ) complaining that we are bringing in another team's backup to start for us again and how it's groundhog day? I kid... I kid... love all around today

Is that what it is? What if he starts only every game of 2018? This is incredible.... sooooOOOOOOoooooo glad we didn't go after Foles.

Uhhh... no, he's not. I've been clamoring about Mayfield and Darnold, but signing McCarron gives me pause in my previous confidence we're inevitably trading into the top 5. So, if we aren't I hope we target Jackson, who's 4th on my QB wish list rather than Allen.

Holy crap!!! Even better

If it's really 2 years for $16.5 million this is awesome!!! But if it's a sign we're targeting a project QB I really hope it's Jackson.

Looked at the first and last page... Cost? Man I hope this doesn't mean we're targeting Allen.

I hope so... it sure looks like it. I don't think Beane and McDermott would be sitting on their hands like this if they didn't already have a damn good idea what they were doing at QB.