BullBuchanan

Jesus christ. you seem unwilling or incapable to use the most basic forms of logic. Again you have submitted examples that prove my point, and you can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that if you find an exception to the rule, it doesn't mean that the rule is not valid. This is pretty basic stuff, man.

Thanks for proving my point. Done. thanks.

Yes, there is, as provided by hard data. NFL Accuracy is rarely improved significantly - Most QBs fail to improve college accuracy by 3 points. Most QBS with college completion percentage 56% or below are NFL busts. Many QBs below 59% college completion rates are busts. Most successful NFL QBs had college completion percentages above 59% and even more were very close to 60%. Read critically, lol.

I am 100% sure it is an INDICATOR of poor performance in the pros. an Indicator is not a fact, but when it's as overwhelming as it is, you can act like it's a fact, because you're far better off not betting against it. Then you proceeded to list a pile of quarterbacks with ~60% completion percentage, which is a strong number, as evidence my statement is false. You used evidence that supports my claim to try to discredit it without any additional commentary.

And I said, exceptions don't prove rules. I made a specific point to say it's NOT impossible to overcome, but it is an overwhelming indicator. Which it still is. If you want to bet your life savings on Red 17, it could come up, but let's see who's ahead after 100 tries when i bet on black.

56.2 < 57 last time I checked.

You would be right, except the players haven't show that to be true.

This post kind of proves my point. Allen was 56.2 lower than everyone there by a lot.

That may be the case, but check the numbers. You can search anyone you want here for their college stats: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/jared-goff-1.html

100% positive. Backed up by the stats of every good- HOF QB over the last 40 years. Favre and Moon were the only two I found that defied the trend. I think there's one more but I forget. It's absolutely lopsided enough to be a major red flag during drafting.

That's fine. It's not impossible. 2 QBs have done it with Allen-like issues (Favre and Moon). I'm not mortgaging the house for that bet. For the record, I hope he turns it around, because the Bills obviously felt differently than I did when they burned the ships.

My point is the same as it's always been. High college completion rate is NOT an indicator of NFL success. Poor college completion rate IS an indication of NFL failure. See above

Goff had a 62.3 college completion rate. What is your point here?

What evidence do you have exactly that this isn't true? I made this argument over and over, and it's holding true, just like it does 99% of the time. Allen is faltering.

Sounds like you just described Tyrod, and I agree.

The Chiefs Offense looks every bit the equal of the 99 Rams. I agree that we should've taken a QB that year, but the smart money was Watson there. Mahommes would have been a bust here - he wouldn't have had the veteran QB leadership, Hall of Fame coach, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt, Travis Kelce, OLine, etc. that he has in KC. Mahommes has looked excellent so far, but Hill, Hunt, and Kelce were wrecking people with Alex Smith at the helm. Hill/Hunt made Mahommes look better than he played today It is ok. Might want to bone up on the history of that country you pretend to care about so much.

As one of the biggest Allen detractors in the world, I think the kid is doing a nice job. He's managing the game which is something he never did in college as far as I saw. I like to believe he's learning what the NFL is like right now and not trying to make too many mistakes and one or two years from now he'll hopefully start getting more aggressive. His flaws are still very much a concern to me for his long term success, but he isn't giving games away like I thought he might.

Brandon Browner was a trash corner his whole career. Probably why he flamed out of the league. Big != good. Logan Ryan and Malcom Butler are also really poor examples of star corners. They're solid players, but they aren't HOFers, and Revis was doing his swan song in NE. He wasn't half the player he was with NY. Stephon Gilmore was benched and he's probably getting cut after the season. Playing for the Yankees might make you a star, but it doesn't mean you're great. I'm always happy to fact check for you.

You can get good corners for 4-5 million per year. If you pay $20 million to one corner, now you have trash at the other 3 spots and any QB worth his salt will just ignore the one threat out of 5 that you shut down. Good luck with that.

Who was Philly's star corner on their super bowl team? New England? Green Bay? Having a shutdown corner is like having an elite defensive tackle. They're neat and all, but they won't win you a championship unless you have an otherwise all time great defense.

If he wants $20 million you trade him before the draft after year 4. I'd rather have 4 good corners than 1 elite one. Or I'd rather have an elite safety.

Respectfully disagree with the OP. This may be the strongest version of the NFL during my lifetime. Currently, the Bills are the only terrible team that doesn't have any real hope. The Cardinals are a mess too, but they have the talent to right the ship. Unlike most years where there are obvious bottom feeders with no hope and a bunch of known bad QBs, every starting QB in the league is either a vet with a good past history, a young player looking to be a star, a highly touted rookie, or a future Hall of Famer. There are no Aj Feeley's, Matt Cassell's, or Brock Osweiler's littering the league. The closest you've got is Blake Bortles that just dropped 377 and 4TDs on the Patriots, while Ryan Fitzpatrick passes Joe Namath on the all time yards list while reading Rich Gannon's memoirs.

We aren't. The bills have "sucked" in about 4 seasons or so in the last 35. The rest of the time they've been mediocre, which might suck compared to the pats, but going 6-10 through 9-7 isn't terrible. It's why we consistently draft 8-15.

Short memory.

That's a catch KB can't make