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The only INT that's 100% on Josh is the second one that Butler picked off. Don't think Josh ever saw him. It happens. While Josh has dramatically improved, he still has that "area code accuracy" at times. Meaning, the ball is in the receivers area but might not be placed where they prefer. There have been times where he's robbed a receiver of some YAC because the ball is a bit behind them or whatever. Just like he has his entire career so far, I expect he'll work on it and continue to improve. But yeah, I'm sure the receivers are aware that they might need to make some adjustments at times in order to make the catch. Off topic but I just wanna punch Mike Vrabel in his stupid fat head. What a frickin' mongoloid.

He's very good when healthy. He's consistently underrated, he pops up in almost every game with a sack or a TFL, batted down pass, etc. Very good player. That said, I don't think he's in play. He's a leader on Washington and the type of veteran Ron Rivera holds onto.

They voted Poyer captain so I'd assume he's an emotional leader out there. Harrison Phillips is a guy with a lot of heart and he likes to get the guys riled up. They obviously believe in Edmunds, he's still playing hurt and I think he hesitates when he doesn't have Milano next to him. Hughes is a fiery guy. They have some personalities on that side of the ball but yeah I'm sure they miss a guy like Lorenzo. They probably miss Shaq Lawson and Jordan Phillips as well. Both guys were always trying to get things fired up. I'll tell you what they miss the most: us, the crowd. They've said as much several times now, when the chips are down late in the game and they're dragging ass, they feed off that energy from the fans in those situations. I do think it's a tad unfair that some stadiums can have fans while others can't. McDermott agrees, he was none too pleased about that. The league tries to pride itself on its parity and keeping the playing field level so we can get "any given Sunday" situations but they missed on the fans. If all of them couldn't have fans then they should've waited until all teams can, but whatever. Trust the process. It's one ugly game, but looking back on it I don't think they played that bad. The turnovers and uncharacteristic mistakes did them in. That first INT that deflected off Roberts snatched the wind right outta their sails. Josh pressed a little bit to make a play. I don't think he saw Butler on that second INT until about .02 seconds after the ball left his hand. Butler was somewhat hidden behind another DB so there's a chance Josh thought there was only that one DB there so he chucked it and just never saw Butler. Sh*t happens. Too many mistakes and turnovers and most every team is gonna struggle when their opponent starts every drive inside your territory. Regroup, refocus and show everyone that game is NOT who you are. Show up for the Chiefs cause you can bet they're ready after they got shelled by Vegas. Sometimes this sport, man....yeesh. Just...go Bills....please?

If this is true I'm sure Beane will do his homework and at least inquire but the odds of him coming here are slim and none and slim just left town.

I knew he'd go with Miami. The whole "I wanna win is just lip service BS. Miami is throwing stupid money at him and that's where he'll go and that's where he'll continue his tour of suck.

Yeah, same. I avoid Twitter in general but I do like to check in during the games just to see what the talking heads think on close calls or whatever. The board can get pretty doom and gloom during and after a loss so I'll steer clear for a couple of days. It was a rough game but they've had those each year McDermott has been here. I dunno if they just went thru the motions or if the rescheduling threw them off or if the lot of them are all playing really banged up right now. It would've been a much closer game without the turnovers and having to defend drives that started at the 16 and crap. Andre Roberts also had a downright awful game, caused two turnovers on his own. And the officials seemed to have moved on from "It's a strange season, ease up on the flags, let 'em play" to "Don't let 'em play or the world will forget about the absolute most important part of any game in history, us, the officials! Call flags for all bull####, take TDs off the board on non-existent procedural penalties! Be seen and be heard my little striped zebra men!" Fudge. Sometimes I really hate this GD game.

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The foundation of his system is adaptation. He wants to be able to run whatever type of offense they need based on their opponent. That's doesn't seem real easy to do and a lot to ask of your players. They gotta know all sorts of concepts and formations and the audibles and adjustments, etc. Players have said it's the most complex offense they've seen. Having the consistency they've had in terms of personnel on the offense over the last three seasons and the advancement of Allen seems like it's finally unlocked all of Daboll's playbook. And seeing them execute it pretty cleanly has been awesome to see as a fan, man. Most years of the drought were filled with rather abysmal offenses without a solid QB so it was always a run-focused offense to hide the QB flaws. Fitz and the Island of Misfit Toys had some fun games as an offense. But again guys like Manuel and Taylor were in offenses that relied mainly on the run. So we haven't seen some of these laser shots Allen has thrown. Not in a while anyway. And not nearly as often. The last QB consistently making throws like he has was Bledsoe throughout 2002 and a little bit of 2003 before he began staring down Moulds and apparently Moulds is a descendant of Medusa because the more he stared him down the more of the sack statue he became. As fun as it has been so far, I always feel like I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Nearly two decades of futility will really train your brain to expect failure. You expect it so much you don't know how to react when they're super successful and should be the expected team to win in most games. It's definitely an interesting season and I really think this team can hang with anyone in the league.

I love Tre and hope that he's just off to a bit of a rocky start for 2020 but I can't help but wonder if his heart is in it this year. He went down to the wire on opting out and has a young family, I'm sure that weighs on him. But, I could be way off and it's just taking some time for him to find his groove.

There was no way Lynn could've gone back to Taylor after how Herbert has played. I'd rather deal with Herbert throwing a pick here and there but still pushing it down the field than Taylor who sees the big throw but pulls it down and dumps it off. Sucks for Tyrod, eff that doctor, man. I wonder if he'll be pursuing some sort of compensation or something for that.

Daboll: OK, on this play here if you can't get Stefon on the out route I want you to dump it to Devin in the flat. Josh: No coach, Brett Favre says touchdowns first. *Daboll grabs a coffee can from under his desk marked "Brett Favre Jar" and Josh drops a $5 in it.* Daboll: *sigh* As I was saying....

I think Diggs would get frustrated in Minnesota because he knew he could help his team win and it seemed like there were weeks where he just wasn't involved in the offense. Whether that's the patented "let's draft a WR 4th overall and then use him as a decoy!" method created by Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan or they just didn't know how to get him in the mix then yeah, I'd see why he's frustrated. I also think he felt like certain teammates didn't match his passion for winning and the game in general. I'd also probably have a difficult time getting along with Kirk Cousins. Guy is a friggin' toolbag.

Weenies. Every gotd@mn one of them.

Joe B gotta be basking in the wake of own stank because he has not let go the "Cody Ford to guard" argument since before the kid was drafted.

If they have to forfeit then they have to forfeit. The Titans were given the same information and protocols as every other team. They have also already been warned several times and have already had to have a game rescheduled because they're violating league-wide protocol. If the NFL wants to show that they're serious about this stuff then a forfeit might be the way to go. They did it to themselves.

Don't know what he has left in the tank but even if he still had half a tank, dude is in his 10th NFL season with a ton of wear and tear. If McBeane is gonna pull a trade, it's gonna be a guy that meets their criteria: up and comer at the end of their first contract, entering the prime of their career at 25, 26, 27, etc. Gonna be a bit longer before the teams that are rebuilding/preparing to rebuild start their fire-sales.

Whoever put together those highlights is a real schmuck. Didn't include Buffalo's first touchdown yet we got a nice look at every single Raiders field goal. Weenies.

I think he would probably struggle for playing time behind Diggs, Brown, Beasley, and Davis. I think he's like 4th or 5th on the depth chart in Vegas. They go Ruggs, Edwards, Agholor, Renfrow, Jones, I think.

Grade: A Had a lapse on the 3rd down sack that knocked him out of field goal position. He could've led Diggs on that deep throw but that's splitting hairs. I don't recall any wild throws. His only incompletions were throw aways or drops. This is a dangerous offense because of the throws he's able to make. That throw to Brown, man, that's big time. The Twittersphere was glowing over that throw and a main takeaway from most tweets seemed to be, "There might be only five QBs in the league that try that throw and only three that make it." After all the years of agony it's pretty incredible to see such a strong offense now. Over those lost years, it felt like the offense mustered one big time play once every five games. Now, they're cranking out big time plays five times per game! I also think the defense took a step forward today, at least in the second half. Before the Raiders scored their final TD, their previous four drives went like this: punt, lost fumble, punt, turnover on downs. I think they're still tinkering with their DL rotation and trying to figure out the best combination of guys to have out there. They definitely miss Lotulelei as that anchor in the middle and they probably miss Lorenzo Alexander as well. I like Tyrel Dodson a lot and think he has a bright future but he's not there yet and I think AJ Klein is a liability. I dunno, maybe give Del'Shawn Phillips a crack when he's 100%? Josh Norman is playing with a fire under his rump and hopefully that'll permeate the rest of the defense and they can start playing with that swagger they had last season.

I wouldn't be opposed to them trading for a pass rusher or maybe even the 1-tech DT they're missing with Lotulelei being out. That dude, along with Trent Murphy, has been a forum whipping boy since he got here but I think all of us underestimated his absence. He does a lot of the dirty work in the trenches that frees up his ends and linebackers. Harrison Phillips can play that role but it's not his bread and butter, nor is it Ed Oliver's, Vernon Butler's, or Quinton Jefferson's. They miss that anchor in the middle right now.

Before the Raiders final TD, the defense had locked it down pretty well, because the previous four drives were punt, fumble, punt, fumble. Defenses around the league are out of sorts right now, just seems to be taking a bit more time than usual to find a groove. Hopefully this performance gives the defense some confidence and they can keep it up going forward. I wonder if McDermott took over play calling or at least had some direct orders for Frazier. Also, they can go ahead and call Zo now.

It's not a fumble because they're saying they blew the play dead due to forward progress being stopped. I didn't hear a whistle, tho.

Yikes on bikes. Poor dude surely didn't think his NFL career would begin like this. First, he's sentenced to the Jets. Rookie year wasn't awful. Jets can't build or operate a team tho, so they hire Adam Gase. He gets mono. Then plays with a JV o-line and virtually zero offensive weapons, still puts together a few decent games at the end of the season. Jets do poop-all to get him some playmakers but improve the OL somewhat then their rookie left tackle gets hurt and now he gets suplexed into the turf and jacks up the shoulder on his throwing arm. Sucks. Couldn't happen to a better franchise, tho. But still, poor dude. If Sam Darnold ever reaches his potential, I don't think it'll be with the New York Jets. They need a complete overhaul, ownership included.

Might be in the minority here but I dig the white on blue. Hopefully they switch up to white facemasks in the future.

The raw skills were always there. He has the size, the arm, the moxie, all that good stuff just needed to be refined. And the desire was there as well. Kid sat down and emailed hundreds of schools when he was looking for a shot somewhere, he obviously wants it. One of the things I've noticed with the draft analyst crowd is that some of them seem to think these guys can't improve once they get in the league. They develop their assessments and then seem to stick to that assessment even when the player is doing things that deter from their evaluations. And then that crap just becomes talking points for the games. Josh Allen could go out and complete every single effin' throw he's ever attempted and the minute he misses one would be the cue for the talking heads to start spewing nonsense about his accuracy. I'm a bit off topic but I'm on a roll and I can't stand most of the lip-flappin' dipsh*ts that get paid to talk football. Every QB is going to have a misfire in every game. Just now it is... But when Patrick Mahomes misses on a throw it's: Play by play: And a rare misfire from Mahomes on second down. That'll bring up a third and long situation. Color commentary: Even though it was incomplete, Pat Mahomes throws this ball with the might of ten million Norse gods, Jim! I mean, be dazzled in the magnificence of his weird curly locks and his angelic Kermit-style cadence! Josh Allen misses the same exact throw in the same exact situation... Play by play: Oh my, and there's just an atrocious, horrible, awful, terrible, and downright heinous throw by Josh Allen. That'll bring up a third and long and once again, Josh Allen costs his team dearly, Fred! Color commentary: Yeah Jim, it really is quite disgusting. I mean, we knew of the accuracy issues coming out of Wyoming but this is egregious. By god I'm going to have to bleach my own eyes after what I've just witnessed. I like the kid but he should be so ashamed of himself that he voluntarily gives the other team the ball and just retires forever. Just an ungodly abomination of a throw from the Firebaugh kid. In short, I watch the games on mute now.