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You’re right. ***** it. Let’s all just pour back into the streets tomorrow, resume life, and see what happens. I’m sure everything will be fine. Gotta get that economy back up and humming, after all!

That's all anyone can ask. Try, be aware, do your best. Thank you for feeding people. God bless you and your family.

I applaud your efforts to feed the elderly. Truly. Thank you for that selfless act. I DO think it's absolutely negligent and dangerous not to wear a mask and gloves, ESPECIALLY knowing that you're coming in regular contact with the elderly. Anyway...there's clearly a difference between what you're doing and what Dak Prescott did. There's a clear difference between essential and life-saving services, and having a 30-person party just for the hell of it. Feeding the elderly? Yes, of course. Please do that. And thank you. Having a party or generally otherwise ignoring state orders, CDC recommendations, and other simple, life-saving measures? Dumb, selfish, ignorant. Ridiculous. And please, for the sake of those with whom you come in contact, WEAR A MASK AND GLOVES!

The bolded section is horrifying. You clearly still don't get it. It's not about whether YOU are going to get the virus or whether you've made peace with becoming infected. It's about the fact that you can be a carrier of the virus for over a week without knowing that you have it, or you could be completely asymptomatic and not even KNOW you have it. And then you're going around spreading it to untold numbers of people, and you don't even know it, because you are "healthy as a horse" and "feel just fine". So great. You, Buffalo716, aren't symptomatic or aren't aware you've been infected. But what about all the people you come in contact with, who you may be infecting? Are you cool with being the reason that an immuno-compromised person or an elderly person gets the virus and dies? IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU! People are so selfish and so ignorant about the dangers of thing, it's absolutely maddening.

How does this still not compute to people? Look, let me make it simple: First, if they want to put themselves at risk, more power to them. But the fact is that they are putting their entire community -- including at-risk individuals -- at risk by doing what they're doing. Second, when people do this kind of thing, it spits directly in the face of everybody around the country making sacrifices right now. It invalidates our stay-at-home efforts, and it says in a loud and clear voice to medical personnel: "We don't care about you or your life". Bottom line: The longer people like Prescott commit these selfish, self-centered, short-sighted, disrespectful, negligent acts, the longer society has to stay shut down. You want everyone to go back to work? You want the economy to recover? You want people to stop dying? You want to have an NFL season this year? Then everyone -- including rich athletes -- needs to STAY THE ***** HOME!!!

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html#click=https://t.co/afAykrWlvC

So he does is best work outside the tackles (whereas Singletary does his best work inside), has the speed (which our HB corps currently lacks) to be a home run threat, AND he can return kicks? He does indeed sound like a perfect fit for what the Bills are looking for. What does everyone think in terms of probable draft round for Evans? 3rd? 4th?

Option 2:

That show at Autzen was SO GOOD!!! As the bassist Otiel Burbridge says, Eugene is like “an old growth forest of Deadheads”. Very cool town to see Dead music in. And I so love my summer Gorge trips and will miss seeing them there this year. First time at that venue for me was The Dead in ‘04, with Robert Hunter and the Allman Bros opening. That’s when I really and truly got “on the bus”. My only complaint about the Gorge is that the nitrous situation in the lot has gotten out of control. It’s beyond gross. Nothing I hate more at shows than hearing the hiss of the nitrous tanks. Ugh. Ah well, as the lyric goes: “It’s one in 10,000 that comes for the show”.

I still go to see Dead and Company at the Gorge whenever they play there. Best venue in America. I usually do DSO or JRAD in Portland and Eugene whenever possible, too. The live experience is still a whole lotta fun. I just don’t personally feel that it can hold a candle to the genuine article, musically. But that’s okay! It is still about as much fun as one can have at a live show of any kind. The community is still there. The lot is still there. The pursuit of IT is still there. I am so thankful to still get to go and see this music live, 25 years after Jerry left this earth.

Dark Star, of course.

I'll leave this one to Ken Kesey, who wrote a letter after Jerry died that started this way: Hey, Jerry-- what's happening? I caught your funeral. Weird. Big Steve was good. And Grissman. Sweet sounds. But what really stood out -- stands out -- is the thundering silence, the lack, the absence of that golden Garcia lead line, of that familiar slick lick with the uptwist at the end, that merry snake twining through the woodpile, flickering in and out of the loosely stacked chords...a wriggling mystery, bright and slick as fire... suddenly gone. And the silence left in its wake was-- is-- positively ear-splitting. I'll just go with that. The silence...the space...is absolutely ear-splitting. Nothing...absolutely NOTHING since Jerry died can hold a candle to the music WITH Jerry. Nothing. I've been to dozens of shows, from The Dead to Furthur to Dead and Co to Wolf Bros to Phil and Friends to Ratdog to Dark Star Orchestra, and NOTHING holds a candle. Jerry was the sun around which the other planets (players) orbited, and his absence is ear-splitting. So why do I still go to the shows? Because it's still church. It's still chasing transcendence. It's still going and seeing some of my favorite musicians chasing the muse while I still can. It's still the same community, and joy, and pursuit of IT, and love and magic. That's why I still go. It still FEELS mostly the same, out in audience land. It's still church. But the silence...the gap where that magical Garcia solo should be...it's ear splitting.

So you’re just gonna totally ignore the fact that Ford played a different position and that players improve from year 1 to year 2? Cool. Great talk.

How could you possibly know that? For one thing, players usually progress from year 1 to year 2, so you can't just assume Cody Ford has topped out. That's silly. For another, Ford hasn't gotten to concentrate solely on playing RG instead of RT so far in his NFL career. How do we know he's not an All-Pro caliber guard? That's what most analysts feel his best position in the pros is. So again, I'm just not sure how you can make that statement.

@Virgil, this may have already been said in the thread somewhere, but when are you tentatively planning to start the next mock draft? Wanna make sure I don't miss out.

http://setlist.com/ On the lefthand side of the above website is a "song search" function. Make sure "Grateful Dead" is chosen in the band field. Should be set to that by default. Anyway, punch in "New Speedway Boogie", or whatever song you want to find out about, and it will list every show they ever played that song in. http://headyversion.com/song/193/grateful-dead/new-speedway-boogie/ This is a website I like a lot where fans vote for their favorite live versions of songs. As to my favorite live show ever? Boy, I don't think I could choose such a thing. My favorite current live ERA is winter '73. Liquid electric jazz bliss. Thanks! I get asked this question a lot. The "why do you like the Dead?" question. I could write a doctoral dissertation on the subject. What I typed up was the most shortened and succinct version I could reasonably post to a football message board. ?

I disagree with all of this. Entirely. Jerry Garcia an average guitarist? I don't even know what to say to that. I'll just not bother. Bob Weir was a completely unique rhythm guitarist. As I mentioned in my post above, he had the unenviable task of trying to fit into a musical soundscape that featured two dominant lead players -- Jerry and Phil -- and left little room for assertive rhythm guitar. So instead of even trying that, he affected a style that is best compared to a jazz pianist like McCoy Tyner. Odd, unique, percussive, rhyhtmic jabs that no other rhythm guitarist really ever even tried. Phil Lesh only a DECENT bass player? Again, I couldn't disagree more. A completely unique player. No bassist in rock music sounds like Phil Lesh. He is also a highly trained classical musician with a deep knowledge of the form. The way he completely eschews traditional bass playing and instead basically plays it like a lead instrument is awe-inspiring. The degree to which he uses the high register of an instrument whose high register is rarely so well used, again...hard to put words to. Just amazing, really. To each their own. As I stated above, music is highly subjective. Neither of us is "right". I do, however, COMPLETELY disagree with everything you said. I also completely disagree that Umphrey's friggin McGee has more musical prowess than the Grateful Dead. But again, to each their own.

I am an obsessive Deadhead. With each year that goes by, I just get more and more into the Dead. It never gets old to me. One key thing to know, by the way, is that listening to their live shows is absolutely, positively the way to understand and enjoy them best. The Dead themselves agree. They were just never really able to match the greatness of their live shows in a studio setting. More on that below. First, in short: music is highly subjective. Each band puts off a certain "frequency" that either resonates with you or it doesn't. If the Dead don't resonate with you, that's perfectly fine. There are PLENTY of popular artists who I just don't "get". I'm not a big Bruce Springsteen, Rolling Stones, or Led Zeppelin guy. I can appreciate why people like their music, and I can admit that they're objectively "good", whatever that means. It's just not for me. As Ram Dass would say: "I just have no business with them". Now, let me tell you why I love the Grateful Dead. If you don't want to really find out what the Dead is all about, just click away now, because this is it: 1.) The musicians - Each musician in the Dead comes from a different background. Jerry Garcia was brought up on bluegrass and folk music. He is also highly influenced by Django Reinhart. His style is melodically unique and no one else sounds like him. The second you hear Jerry Garcia, you know it's Jerry Garcia. He's unique largely because the scales and themes that he predominantly uses are NOT based in blues and R&B. This alone sets him apart from just about every popular rock guitarist ever. His choice of notes...what can I say? His guitar SOUNDS like a sunny day in California. It SOUNDS like happiness. Then you have Phil Lesh, the bassist, who is a classical and avante garde musician who plays the bass in a highly irregular fashion. He is as much a "lead player" as Jerry Garcia. In order to provide back balance to these two "lead players" (Phil and Jerry), the rhythm guitarist, Bob Weir, plays in a highly unique, "percussive" sort of style that can best be likened to the way pianist McCoy Tyner played behind John Coltrane. He fills in the empty spaces and keeps things grounded. Along with him are the two drummers. Bill Kretuzman comes from a marching band background, whereas Mickey Hart is versed in world rhythms, poly-rhythms, and odd percussion instruments. The two of them together combine to create a one-of-a-kind, drummer-with-four-arms sound that offsets the wild musical adventurousness of Jerry Garcia and Phil Lesh. Lastly, the keyboardists. The first was Pigpen, who was a blues guy through and through. After him came Keith Godchaux, who was a classical pianist. After him came Brent Mydland, who played a B3 organ and had a raspy, soulful voice that added new color to the band. Going back over what I've just elucidated, you have players from bluegrass, folk, country, blues, classical, world music, and R&B backgrounds, which combine into a strange and completely unique amalgam of Americana. The band has songs in each of these styles, too. To listen to the Grateful Dead is to listen to the entire history of American music. Oh, and the singing? You're right, they don't have "good" singing voices. I'll defer to Sam Cooke here, who once said "the degree to which you should be considered a good singer ought to be based not on how 'beautiful' your voice is, but by how effectively you can convince us that you're telling the truth". When Jerry Garcia or Bob Weir sang, I always believed them. 2.) The Songbook - None of the above would matter much if the songs sucked. I'm not a fan of Phish, or Widespread Panic, or any other "jam music", for instance, because the songs are no good and the jams/solo sections are aimless, masturbatory silliness. In the Dead's case, the lyrics are provided by Robert Hunter, who is an EXTREMELY underrated lyricist. His writing is heavily steeped in literary history. He uses strange, Joycean word combinations. He writes about "the old, strange, weird America". About gamblers, thieves, cowboys, murderers, love, poker games, travelers, and death. He's such a strong lyricist that Bob Dylan actually asked Hunter to write some songs for him. How many people has Bob Dylan asked to write songs for HIM? Not many. Aside from the lyrics, the musical compositions themselves are often bizarre and/or brilliant. They often play in strange time signatures. They also often string songs together end-to-end during live shows, or begin with a song, move through a few others, then back to the original. They have some highly musically complex compositions that bely the "silly hippie band" stereotype that most apply to them. Many a "serious musician" has been talked into listening to the Grateful Dead, nearly against their will, only to be blown away by the musical dexterity and originality of the band. Their songs are catchy. They evoke true and honest feeling. They're often deeply sad. They seem to have an ethereal ability to change meaning over time and to mean completely different things to different people. They have an absolutely amazing, dense, beautiful songbook. 3.) The improvisation/the recorded history - The Grateful Dead had nearly every show they ever played over the course of a 30-year-career recorded. They usually toured 7-9 months out of the year. But what kind of nut would want to LISTEN to 30 years of the same band? Well, here's the thing: They never played the same show twice. Not just the setlist of songs they chose, but the WAY they played each song...was never the same twice. Each song and each show were completely unique, like snowflakes. So I can sit down with 30 versions of a song, and each one will be different. This provides for the listener what essentially amounts to a vast, nearly inexhaustible treasure hunt. The ability to find which shows were good and for what reasons. Which particular versions of songs were transcendent and why. The REASON the shows and songs were so different is that the band essentially used the songs as jumping off points for improvisation -- much like you find in jazz music. The muse might catch them in a certain way on a certain night and take them to new heights. Or it might not, and they might lay down a stinker. The fans came along for the ride and gave them permission to search for the muse each night. This meant that, when things WEREN'T going well, the show wasn't going to bowl anyone ever. If they DID catch that unspeakable SOMETHING, though, it meant vastly higher highs than bands who DIDN'T take the same type of risks were capable of achieving. This night-to-night search is what the Dead's musical journey was all about. In addition, as you might imagine, over the course of 30 years, the band changed a lot. The instruments they played, the effects they used, the songs that came and went from their repertoire. In short, they changed and evolved countless times over the course of their history. The one common thread that snaked through their entire career, though? That would be... 4.) Psychedelic group mind/the live show experience - From their first days as a band, the Grateful Dead were taking psychedelics together. Coming up in San Francisco in 1965, they would all drop acid and go to one of Ken Kesey's Acid Tests (all night, acid-fueled, multi-media drenched bacchanalias where anything goes), where they were the house band and could play anything they wanted. These constant psychedelic sessions and the frequency with which the Dead played together fused them together into a sort of group mind that is hard to understand or empathize with unless you've had psychedelic experience yourself. The players learned to listen to each other deeply, to leave space for each other, to anticipate where the others were going and beat them to the punch. When the Dead were "on", they were six men playing as one organism -- as the band would say, "the music played the band". Not only that, but the audience, too, became a part of the show. The wild, wooly, traveling circus of lunatics that followed the Grateful Dead and filed into the shows each night helped dictate the outcome of the music. A really hot and involved crowd often meant a great set from the band. There weren't big light shows or pyrotechnics, just a pure exchange between audience and band, such that the boundaries between the two dissolved. The old saying "there is NOTHING like a Grateful Dead show" is absolutely true. It was like an ancient, tribal ritual brought back from from..well...from the dead, I guess. Human beings have been getting together for centuries, taking different mind-altering substances, and dancing around fires to music in order to transcend common reality and reach the Heavens. Dead shows called to mind exactly that type of ritual. There was no judgement at these shows, no cynical laughter at someone for dancing too funny. To be at a Grateful Dead show was to be completely free. No matter how weird you were, you were never the weirdest guy there. There was a palpable feeling of love, community, comraderie, compassion, and shared joy at these shows. Everyone took care of each other. Everyone was there for the same thing -- transcendence. Again, this is hard to describe in words and I'm sure sounds trite and silly to someone who never experienced it. What can I say? Some things are beyond words, and Grateful Dead shows are definitely one of those things. So...if you're with me this far....the combination of the musicians, the lyrics, the musical compositions, the vast array of musical styles which ultimately comprise the entire history of American music, the improvisation, the impact of psychedelics, the atmosphere at live shows, the community of fans...it all combined to make a completely unique, unmatched, unrivaled, and absolutely magical experience. In all likelihood, the Deadheads probably detract from the band, because people see all the hippie-dippie fans and just assume it must all be hippie-dippie throwaway music. But it's not. It's deep, dense, rich, beautiful stuff, and there is nothing on earth quite like it. If you don't like it, if you "have no business with it", if it doesn't resonate with you, that's fine. But to those for whom it DOES resonate...it is a great blessing. It is grace. It is magic. Click any one of the links below and pull it up on your phone and go for a drive on a sunny day with the windows down and blast it. If that doesn't "do it" for you, nothing of theirs likely ever will. And that's okay. The following three shows are from three of the best years of their touring career. The first is the most popularly traded Dead show of all time, which some consider to be their best, from 5-8-77 at Cornell University. The second is from 11-11-73 at Winterland Arena, and the third is from their famed Europe '72 tour, taking place on 04-17-72. https://archive.org/details/gd77-05-08.sbd.hicks.4982.sbeok.shnf. https://archive.org/details/gd73-11-11.sbd.schlissel.14105.sbeok.shnf https://archive.org/details/gd1972-04-17.sbd.sirmick.34038.sbeok.flacf Hope this helps.

People like the 90s and 60s throwbacks because, subconsciously, they bring up feelings of glory days gone by. in my opinion, in terms of merely aesthetic value, the current Bills jerseys are the best ever. If the Bills start winning consistently, maybe people will stop wanting to change jerseys so much, because they’ll associate THESE jerseys with glory days. Hell, the Bills have already made the playoffs TWICE in them!

Yep, and it lost them a first round bye in the playoffs. loved it.

Incorrect. His last REGULAR SEASON loss was to Fitz. His last loss in a Pats jersey was to Tannehill.

Not just a loss, but one that happened in Foxborough, against a Ryan Tanehill QBed team, via a pick-6 thrown to former Patriot Logan Ryan. Bliss.

Bucs unis...look the same to me as the pre-digital numbers unis. So basically they just admitted that they ***** up and went back in time. The Falcons unis are NOT good. Should go back to the Neon Deion look full time.

Even 2 hours (As opposed to four) would be better.