Boatdrinks

He definitely took major steps to prevent it. Without that, their situation in BUF was tenuous at best. Probably were the most vulnerable team in the league in that regard.

The Pats are really an anomaly . They won’t be vulnerable until Brady retires or his play falls off in a major way. That’s the main thing that weighs against the Bills dethroning them. Not roster turnover on either team.

If the owners are paying to build, the prices have to be high to get a significant ROV. Of course, CAL and NYC are in a league of their own when it comes to this.

While Buffalo doesn’t have the corporate presence to sell more suites, I disagree on the raising of revenue overall. There is plenty of room for that in this market, which currently has the lowest average ticket price in the league. There is an upscale market that remains largely untapped who simply won’t attend games at the current venue. This is largely due to weather and the presence of a segment of fans that currently goes to the games. This won’t change without a new venue. The stadium isn’t exactly crumbling to the ground, but it’s a woefully outdated relic from a different era of the NFL from a business standpoint.

And that is what this whole thing is really about. A new stadium = a new target demographic. They need a majorly upgraded experience to sell them, though. I don’t think that happens to the same degree with a renovated NEF. There’s only so much that’s actually possible before the cost approaches new build territory. A climate controlled environment would be a big selling point to a market that currently doesn’t attend games frequently. It just comes down to what the Pegulas decide they want.

Pretty good analysis. BUF presents a unique situation because of the things you cited, not the least of which is the owners. It really comes down to what do the Pegulas really want ? You cited an average, so the actual difference is substantial. Not minimal. Temps aren’t considered comfortable for most until it hits around 60. 50’’s is at least a light jacket and only seems decent to those used to BUF weather or worse.

Love the Bucks ! Stuck here for another 5-7 years lol. Many years in and a big hit to my pension to leave now. I’ll live, but it’s getting tougher as the weather is getting worse.

Yep, high five degrees warmer than BUF on average.That means more days in the 60s, which is a lot closer to comfortable. Trees didn’t have leaves in BUF much before Memorial Day and cherry blossoms were still around. That’s over a month after Columbus OH and a whopping two months after DC area.

But there will be someone to step in and pay it, if the Bills are in a new stadium. If it’s a reno, the PSL would have to be very low cost.

I think the projected cost of a full reno was around $500 million the last time it came up and the County rejected it. I’d guess it’s substantially higher now. The design of Rich/ NEF doesn’t lend itself to major modifications , so it will be pricey to modernize.

I’d like my chances of a decent day in CLE at the end of April much better than in BUF.

Many pools in BUF probably haven’t opened yet. Seriously, we’ve hit the upper 70’s maybe twice so far. If I still had my place in the ‘burbs with inground pool I may not have even bothered to open it yet. It was barely open 100 days a year in a good summer.

They might have similar weather, but BUF has morphed into two seasons really. Spring doesn’t exist and winter starts on around November 1st.

Surprised it came from GMF as that show features more Patriot ball-washing than most. They throw a hot take out there once in awhile to keep other teams fans ( mildly) interested.

Or the teams in the weakest divisions. Honestly I don’t care for the byes as it gets very tiresome and boring. Again, that’s today. Saw my Columbus friends at Easter time and they had already mowed their lawns 4 times. Flowers were blooming, and they hit 80 degrees several times already. Weather in BUF is awful and seems to be getting worse. Id guess that CLE is usually better as well.

Sure, but that’s a little more of a fluke. Just down the road a bit in Columbus, it’s been consistently 15-20 degrees above BUF temps, and our highs have been their lows. We’ve had seemingly perpetual cloud cover since Thanksgiving. Just terrible.

There will never be a “ Jerry world” type stadium in BUF.. A four game preseason is definitely not needed. it’s barely a three game one now, as game four is largely the players who are getting cut. The players don’t want to play preseason games , and the league doesn’t want to pay them for playing less than they already do. Of course , more real games =. more $$ in the league coffers.

I disagree. The game is popular because it’s a great game. Fans of the NFL tolerate teams like the Patriots, but we don’t love it. Far from it, and they definitely don’t make the game more popular. Football is unique in that you only have to be the better team that day ( as opposed to a series) and that the home field gives more of an advantage than in other sports.

Crazy that guys are wearing zip up long sleeves to golf in June ! Seems like the weather always sucks for Jimbos tournament , which is nuts considering it’s not in say, April. This is why the draft will never work in Buffalo; you’d have to wait until the 4th of July!

Actually ATL has some of the least expensive concession prices in the league. They just reduced prices by another %10 recently. Not sure about beer, but that hot dog will set you back $1.50. Pretzel bites are $4.50 and some chips and salsa goes for $2.50.

Such a choad...

Maybe in Georgia. I’m hoping we can get 75-80 days of decent weather up here. This year has absolutely sucked weather-wise.

DeAndre Hopkins

True. This stuff really comes down to elective lifestyle choices.

Perhaps the most brain-dead twit ever to hold her elected office. Her quotes are truly unbelievable. Scary stuff....