Boatdrinks

I believe you, but I doubt that your opinion is the majority. A new stadium will most certainly not have the same cut rate pricing schedule as the current one. The goal in business is to make more money, after all. You apparently feel very threatened by the possibility of having to pay higher prices and that’s fine. However, it is inevitable that prices go up for nearly everything consumers buy. The fact is while some fans share your take, there are likely many who won’t attend games due to the bad weather and somewhat uncontrolled atmosphere brought about by the currently cheap tickets. No amount of whining about what the Bills organization might or might not do will change this. They will put forth the business plan they feel will increase their revenue appropriately. As fans we can’t control this regardless of our individual takes on a possible new stadium.

Apparently you don’t know any , ergo they don’t exist in the humble hamlet that is WNY.

Once again, this is not about filling seats. It’s about getting fans who are paying higher prices to fill them. For every fan who shares your opinion on a climate controlled facility, it’s probable that there are 5 who would attend and pay high prices to do so in such a building. But hey , it’s simple right? Just become one of the two or three winningest franchises in the NFL. Not a predictable business model to follow there. If a team could just go grab a Roethlisberger or a Brady when they wanted to, they’d all be doing it. You need predictability, and selling seats outdoors in brutal Buffalo weather is a challenge. How much more are you willing to pay for a seat in the current building?

And that’s exactly what they want... Pride in America and celebration of her past to be condemned! That way they can sell socialism to the libtards with the message that America is bad, racist, and not inclusive. It’s sickening really, and they are buying in like sheep. That Ho-bag from the US women’s soccer team told USA Today that we really need to think about celebrating Independence Day because “ America was built on slavery”. These people are truly an embarrassment to the nation.

Yours is a tired, outdated take from circa 1982. Things have changed in the last ten years or so, and continue to improve. Also, the stadium thing isn’t about selling more tickets. It’s about increasing revenue and generating new revenue streams. That’s hard to do with a subpar stadium in a cold climate with an entrenched cut-rate pricing schedule. How do you make a substantial price increase for the same cold, bare bones seat? How do you entice the more deep pocketed fan who stays away due to cold weather and a somewhat out of control stadium environment ? As always in sports, winning is far from guaranteed yet money needs to be made. The majority of the league misses the playoffs in any given year. Seriously, even at the current bargain basement prices, the average man/ woman is hardly the target market for a pure luxury entertainment product like NFL football games. The current stadium is only about 72,000. A new facility should be around 65000 or so to create demand.

Yet violent black on black crime such as shootings are over double that of any other race. Studies sho that white on black, black on white, Hispanic on white, et al happen at about equal percentages. Why is this? Look at Chicago, for example. Yes, we are all familiar with opioids and their death toll. However those deaths are largely overdoses. Not violent murders. While anyone can become a drug addict, one race seems more inclined to just flat-out murder people. The numbers support this as factual, and it’s not racist to wonder why that is.

Trouble is , your weather scenario becomes a lot less likely after about 6 weeks into the NFL season. Is retractable possible or practical with BUF heavy snows ? I’m not sure if such a roof could withstand it.

Off the cuff , if posed with the question I’d have probably said Kelly should be around 20or so all time. This isn’t far off. Some crazy takes on here. I think Aikman is probably ranked a bit too high, but saying the Bills wouldn’t have broken the drought with Brady at QB ? You have to be kidding. I hate that choad with a passion, but the Bills would easily have been a playoff team with TB at the helm during the drought years. Multiple times, to boot.

So this is what she ( and other libs esp. millennials around the country) is referring to as a “ concentration camp” ? A disgusting example of hyperbole and just plain ignorance and disrespect. Obviously she missed her history lesson on the holocaust. The memory of that genocide should never be trivialized for political gain. Comparing the detaining of illegal immigrants to the murder of millions....where is the outrage from the liberal media ?

NYC is the economic heart of NYS. Without it, WNY is among the poorest states in the nation. Anyway, of course NYS can afford it. They will simply spend that money somewhere else so it may as well be here. NEF is pushing 50, and it’s time. No, stadiums do not do much for the local economy. No one really believes they do, but that’s not what this is all about anyway. No one really thinks that there is an economic boost. If you want your team, you have to pay to play. That’s just how it is in the NFL. The Bills aren’t operating in some vacuum, why should it be any different ? State government keeps us on the hook for so much crap, and that won’t stop if they don’t kick in toward a new stadium. They will continue to spend our money freely regardless.

Bon Jovi was the “ face “ of his ownership group , but he wasn’t the money. He’s rich, but not NFL owner rich. His partners ( and probably himself) weren’t interested in the Bills ( at least not in Buffalo) past a certain price point. The Bills in Buffalo can generate more revenue, but not as much as other cities.

This isn’t really about safety, it’s about increasing revenue. In short, how do you gain pricing power in an old stadium with few amenities and too much capacity ? That is the nut that needs to be cracked. A climate controlled stadium with less seats would be ideal, but will cost a lot to build. The original design of Rich Stadium doesn’t leave much room for massive redesigns because it is a sunken field. A major renovation is expensive too, but can it give big enough results to add pricing power for tickets and boxes ?

In a way it is, for the Bills. They can’t squueze too much more out of local,corporations because there aren’t any more. The ticket prices however , are ridiculously low ( at or near the bottom of the NFL ). So what can they do? Reduce the capacity ( fewer tickets = more demand) and price the seats higher. Quite a bit higher IF they have a climate controlled facility.

I’d have taken that $1500 gladly and moved. Hate exit row anyway lol I mean, Id have booked that seat if it’s all that was available aside from middle seats but that’s about it. I wouldn’t pay $25 extra to sit there, so I’d take $1500 gladly.

Hmmm , you’re right. Definitely an improvement and yes, better than I would have thought. I still don’t buy it, but if it were that version I’d drop a line.

She looks pretty gross currently and I doubt she was much better in 1995 or whatever. Anyway, this is clearly BS and the complicit media laps it up...

Not a surprise at all. Only home to one starting QB that has taken his team to the playoffs. That makes the AFCE a prime candidate in the discussion.

Burgertime is seriously underrated; one of the greats.

Having “ hurt feelings” over a potential future exit from SJF is silly. If the Bills were to ditch ROC for some other offsite locale that would be a different story. But to simply decide to “ stay home” for camp ( like over half of the NFL already does ) and use the facilities at OBD ? Just evolution and nothing to make a fuss over.

Pierce ( although not unusual for his position) never really looked in shape to me.

While it may not not have helped the Bills, it sure helped fans of football in general. A Pats * and Tom Brady free playoffs is always something to savor. The Bills have been bad for most of the last 20 years, but it’s much easier to enjoy the NFL in general when NE isn’t involved.

That pretty much sums it up. We are watching a collision sport after all, not a ballet.

You are correct , I was there too and remember it well. The replay was shown in the stadium. For the record, yes I hi fived other fans around me and don’t regret it one bit; I really hate that player and relished the moment. Great play by Pollard. Would I have the same reaction to a player being in a car crash or getting shot in the D.R. ? Nope. But on the field of play, all is fair game ( I don’t mean a blatant cheap shot after the play a la Gronk). The holier than thou attitude of some is hilarious. It’s a brutal sport, and fans get passionate about it. On the field these guys are well compensated modern day gladiators. It appeals to something in the deep dark recesses of our less -refined nature. I’m not going to pretend otherwise. That may work for some, but why kid yourself?

If nothing else, those fans got their comeuppance. Their team’s last 3 minutes or so , certainly the last 00:15 were a complete brain fart. Had a great opportunity to close it out and now they’re headed back to Oakland.

Ahh. Just what we need, another noob starting Pats* threads. This is a freaking Bills board, enough damn Patriots* crap on here to make you think you’re surrounded by chowderheads.