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Fair enough. I just don't think there is any way the Bills can lose from this point forward. There are only a few outcomes: 1. He shows up and plays for the Bills. 2. We get something for him in trade. 3. He stays retired. Those options either help us or bear no consequence for the Bills. Each option bears consequence to Boldin, so we are holding 51 cards, and his only card is the deuce of hearts.

"Son, that chair is for NFL employees, please vacate the premises"

How are the Bills doing themselves a disservice. You could argue Boldin did the Bills a disservice. You could argue thar Boldin did himself a disservice. I fail to recognize the correlation between what has happened and the Bills "doing themselves a disservice". If anything they are trying to help their cause by getting something in return, they may have lost out on another WR expecting Boldin to play, heck they may even have kept Sammy. Perhaps the Bills were counting on Boldin, and he left them holding their dicks.

That's fine He quit on us and is dead to me, but if we can get something for him that's great. More importantly we need to make sure he goes somewhere outside the division, maybe even conference, and not to any team that regularly deals with the Pats (Browns, Raiders), or any team who's draft picks we hold (specifically KC).

The channel is a shell of a hell of a network. Currently unwatchable. Thanks disney.

I don't subscribe to the premise of this thread. Moreover, I find the use of "oppressed" in this situation to be extraordinarily disrepectful and intellectually disingenuous. Boldin is unquestionably a professional. In his professional opinion, it was worth it for him to enter into the contract with the Bills. Now he has to honor the agreement he made. You guys think we should have released Jim Kelly's rights too? Was Jim oppressed? Where the !@#$ are we as a society when somebody wants to break a fair and binding employment contract, and somehow the other party on the contract is oppressing him? It is Boldin who is not doing what he said he would, is not living up to the deal, and it is obvious "retiring" was just a ploy to gain attention and/or get to play for a team he wanted to. No sympathy from me for a pro athlete who clearly knew what he was getting into, and has reaped the benefit of the NFL money machine long enough to know how it works. Multimillionaire cattle that live a richer life than almost everyone else on the planet. Cry me a river. They should be prepared to fulfill the obligations of the contracts that they sign, just like everyone else.

With any other team this fog would just be attributed to calm weather or something. But the usual suspects... you just gotta wonder. They try to cheat in many creative ways, would not be surprised if this was another attempt. Not something they could continue to do though because it is so conspicuous, which leads me to believe it's not a cheat. They are always covert.

I agree with OP, but think that was established as soon as the sched came out. We need to carry 8 or more wins into the last 4 weeks to have a chance. We will not sweep the pats and prob not the fins. We need to be in a situation where we only need 2 of the 4.

Our pass defense has been a little overhyped, but is effective mostly because of ball-hawking. Without the turnover ratio it's not very impessive at all. Losing Gaines had a massive impact too. We need depth like nobody's business. Run defense is legit. I think we still finish top 10 in scoring defense at the end of the year, again mostly due to turnovers. Tampa walked all over us up and down the field, but we won because they kept giving us (or we took, rather) the ball.

I know he has. His s/n at bbmb was GBfan2010. I have followed his posts for years. Does not make this any less rediculous. He is mostly nice and sincere, but topics like this show he can be entirely tone-deaf. I can't tell if it's accidental or if he just likes to get jabs in, in a really nice way. Nobody can legitimately think the packer fans all of the sudden understand our plight, it's just plain ludicrous.

Here we go again, Icebowl... You show up at a cancer ward and complain about a hangnail. Yeah, I'm sure it sucks losing Rodgers for the year, but don't pretend to understand or share our "heartbreak". You are a franchise of winning rings with elite long-tenured HOF QB's. We are a franchise of snakebites, unlucky breaks, and infamous failures. You are comparing apples to meercats, and it's borderline disrespectful.

Well, that pretty much sums it up. I could not vote, since there is not an option for "all of the above". In my opinion the NFL has gotten "a little big for their britches", figuring they can do whatever they want and people will just blindly follow. You can't blame them for this, it has worked up to this point, but starting just last year, the jig is up. People are getting turned off, and are turning it off. The NFL is hemorraging fans and popularity, and it's hard to point to just one thing.

Yeah, a percentage of their salary makes the most sense.

Eh. That's like fining me $15. Lynch clearly doesn't care. He never has. He is a dynamic player, but I was happy to see him go. Just another entitled rich person, who thinks he's above the rules. And maybe he is.

The Era of Entitlement is upon us. I'm not a fan of the writers at BN, so I won't pay for it, but obviously they have to keep the lights on somehow. I have had questions about the viability of brick and mortar newspaper company in this social media driven world, but it's hard to argue with the facts. If it would take a site 1000 clicks to get to a few dollars, it makes massive sense to move to a subscription model. Even if they lose a ton of readers, the remaining paying customers will generate more income. For what it's worth, I would pay a subscription to TBD.... SDS I wonder if TBN would give you a price-break per user if you included BN access on TBD, if TBD was a pay site, or if there was a "premium" TBD option with access to more features and paywall content. Like if you charged the same $3 they do, but they gave it to you on a group-rate basis of, say $1 per user. Bladeforums.com does something similar, you can pay to be a "gold member" wherein you get better access to knife makers and suppliers, as well as being able to sell (member-to-member marketplace for tickets/memorabilia?). Just a thought. Seems like a captive audience that is already deemed itself their target market. Regardless, message boards (this one for Bills) are the best source of info and analysis. Tons of dumb-dumbs, but a fair share of coherent, productive, and sometimes expert members of the community.

I did, and he does. You say he "drove his shoulder... with all his body force". That is the statement of untruth here, perhaps you should rewatch. The "force" was nothing that resembles his full "body force". Come on now, don't just stick to your guns for the sake of sticking to them. When confronted with real info, the best course of action is to concede.

I don't believe he intended (nor did he) "drive rodgers to the ground". He clearly let up, and yes he landed on rodgers, but that is definitely a clean play. No question.

Parity right now is a illusion. Some great teams are laying early season eggs, but will come around later in the year. And yes, of course the league wants the pats in the sb... the zebras are Kraft's collective personal "gimp". I would venture a guess that the teams we thought would win, will win their divisions. Does anybody actually believe the steelers, pats, and chiefs won't win their division? I doubt it. I could not care less about the nfc. That only matters if we were to make the super bowl.

Realistically a 2nd is probably top of the market. But I doubt we get that. If we do move him it will probably be for a 3 or 4 depending on the team (3 if they are a good team, 4 if not) I don't believe he will be traded though. Real tough to get a draft pick in return this early in the season, most teams want a player that can help them.

Well since twitter and facebook are the sewer of society, I would say they are not fair representations of the general sentiment. People hate the Packers because they win, plus they hit the ever-elusive "double franchise qb" whereas they have 2 elite qbs back to back in Favre and Rodgers. I always root for all the big teams to lose (pats, cowboys, packers, steelers) mostly because a HUGE portion of those fanbases are fair weather bandwagoners that don't know jack. Packers are the least objectionable though as they play far away, aren't in the conference, don't cheat, and never beat us in a super bowl. And though few years back, I have never seen more opposing fans in our stadium than GB fans that day. Was fun talking **** to all of them at the end, too....

We have a winner. Trying to be a martyr, and get his name out there. If not for kneeling, he would fade away into obscurity, and there wouldn't be hollywood elites, rappers, media, and leftys using him as their poster boy. I'm sure he loves that. If he actually wanted to play, he would not have walked away from his contract, or allowed his g/f to spear the Ravens deal. If he really really wanted to play, he would probably give up the schtick.

Meh. I would prefer the Bills brought themselves up to the level of a playoff team, rather than the rest of the league being so bad that we have a chance. This season is massively boring. Football is dying. Right in front of our eyes. First boxing, then baseball, now football. Only one sport can be king at a time, and the course of over regulation, poor product, and off field/sideline issues are decimating the ratings.

Yeah, besides him opting out on his own accord, if he were good he would have a job. Owners/coaches are fine with the BS if the player is any good at all. If anyone needs confirmation of this, see Joe Mixon, Ray Lewis, Tom Brady (multiple cheater evidence destroyer), Mike Vick, Brandon Marshall, etc, etc.... He is putting on a clinic on how not to get a job. And he's brilliant at it.

I guess I get it why they will keep Tyrod in... But I am generally in the camp of when you know a player is not the answer, there is no point in dragging it out. I think you give TT the chance to make the playoffs, but if/when we are eliminated, 5 should be done for the year. It just makes so much sense to see what you have in Peterman, and get him some live action. After all, next year he will be competing with a 2018 draft pick. Really wish the NFL had a farm system so we could see Peterman play in "the minors".

If they got rid of sammy for locker room/character/availability reasons, Bryant will NOT be a Bill.