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It's ambiguous to a fault. 'Franchise QB' is nebulous and is an argument in and of itself. And the concept that this particular season represents some make or break point for Allen and his future with the team, based on arbitrary (and still undefined) statistical analysis is just gibberish. He's proven he can be QB of a playoff team. He's proven he can improve areas of his game that are weak. The only thing he needs to 'prove' is that he can continue an upward trajectory, not hit random benchmarks that will 'prove he's made it' to appease whoever thinks that way. I'm comfortable enough he will and if he doesn't it'll be addressed one way or another by the staff. My issue (initially) was with the concept that this season will determine Allen's future as measured by various random QB stats. Then I just got annoyed by people who clearly didn't know what they were talking about.

Like I said...go read through the thread. The only hyperbole I've seen is the stuff saying how bad he is, and it's not even hyperbole, it's just flat out incorrect. There isn't a single person who will say he doesn't need to improve. I literally wrote earlier 'of course he needs to improve' verbatim. The responses you find so objectionable are just me and a couple others laughing at people who can't read charts and say 'Allen is a bottom five QB' and then can't find any stats to back that claim up so they go ahead and invent one. You feel compelled to defend that, knock yourself out.

I'm the one who brought up drops so I'll assume you're referring to me. Go be a big boy and find where I said Allen would have been Marino without them.

Oh, I'm supposed to feel sorry because you didn't read back far enough and responded to a post I made which itself was IN RESPONSE to someone saying Allen was 'bottom five in TDs thrown'? Nah. Don't jump in if you can't follow the thread. Tired of explaining simple concepts...figure this ***** out on your own

Per attempt is how you look at QB stats objectively. Not even objectively lmao...just properly. Per attempt. So ***** simple if you understand statistics even a little. Not per game. Not per start.

18th in the league in Touchdowns per Attempt but by all means keep going by TDs per game as if that has any predictive or qualitative value at all...because every QB throws the exact same amount of throws per game so it's totally logical stat to think up lmao

'Started 16 games' eh

LMFAO at this He wants everyone to get back to doing what has now crashed our country's economy twice in my wage-earning adult life? And PROLONG the disease that's partially responsible? Stay the ***** home you idiot. The working class of this country will clean up your mess as per usual.

And you're the guy who thinks 25th our of 32 equals bottom 5 Congrats

So you got nothing except fake stats that you repeated w/out verifying for yourself got it

have a good one ill wet a line for you

Yes, and even THIS year we are talking about him much differently without a statistically relevant number of dropped passes. His trajectory is firmly up. There's little reason to think he won't improve.

imo any reasonable analysis has him anywhere in that 23rd-18th range lots to work on, obviously, but the 'bottom 5' stuff is just pure nonsense

You know exactly why...this thread is full of people just outright fabricating statistics to try to argue a point. Once those are disproven, they try to invent new ones that aren't relevant. Feels like the football IQ of this place is dropping rapidly...probably should have left this one alone smdh

He changed it to 'per game TDs thrown' immediately

might go w this one

Let me guess you're using 16 as the number of games Allen played in lmao Of course you are

He was tied for 21st w/Murray and Fitz for TD passes. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/passing.htm

62.2% adjusted comp, not bottom 5 when rest of league adjusted for drops as well. but lol I'm not getting it...give us those bottom 5 categories again lmaoooooooooo Trying too hard chief

Bottom 5 of which 'numerous' statistical categories?

Left champ bailey on the bench lol

11 by my count https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2019/advanced.htm

How many of your 311 posts are about Allen?

He's already that guy tho It's the other stuff he needs to work on

Find the guy who claimed Allen was a bottom 5 passer in all categories and then mysteriously disappeared after being proven wrong. He's the one whose posts you were liking.