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He didn't play 16 games fml

That and probably a cursory glance at his stats. Which are (EXCUSES ALERT ExCUSES ALERT) disproportionately informed by his drop rate...which would probably take more time to research than your average talking head has allotted re: Buffalo QBs. Personally I think Allen is going to blow people's minds this year. I mean, even in the Texans game which was far from his finest hour it seemed like Booger and Tessitore couldn't wrap their heads around the fact that he was able to complete passes in a competent manner. And these guys were announcing an actual NFL playoff game!

It's my firm belief that some analysts/media members don't watch enough Bills games to have an appreciation for the sort of 'work' Allen needs. Like you say he doesn't need a complete overhaul, but incremental steps that are well within the capacity of a solid QB/staff relationship.

I actually think it might be of more use to go by WR stats and work backwards to see how they perform with different QBs. This is one of the reasons I think Hopkins is such a stud. The guy puts up numbers and it doesn't matter if it's Watson, TJ Yates, Ryan Mallet, Brandon Weeden, Tom Savage, Osweiler...the guy just performs.

I would not be opposed to that idea unless there's some can't miss guy in the draft. I actually thought they were going to go after Cousins when the Redskins cut him loose and the team now is WAY better now.

fine fine

So $1k that Allen throws for more yards, TDs, and has a higher ANY/A than Watson after the regular season is completed. If either misses more games than the other we take out the average to equalize. If either misses more than 5 games bets off.

The fact that my proposing a wager is viewed by you as 'internet tough guy mode'...smh.

Nah. See while I have the courage of my convictions, some folks won't put their $$ where their mouth is.

Yea. He will. Allen puts up better numbers than Watson this year across the board.

I think he's going to have a bad year, yes.

According to this Jacoby Brissett is more responsible for receiver production than Mahomes

Are you aware when I plug in the Bills and Texans data it proves Allen is more responsible for his WR production than Deshaun Watson.

Use attempts, targets, YPA, literally anything except two random bar graphs you copy pasted from some clipart

So about this (I assume we're talking about the AP NFL CotY): unless you think 8-8 wins the AFCE, this would be lighting your money on fire as iirc every AP CotY for the last 20 years has been a division winner. Belichick has won the title three times, second to only Don Shula with 4. If you're a Bills fan, McDermott CotY+ BUF AFCE champs is a no brainer parlay. I'd spread some out on other likely division winners...just for value's sake I like Gruden +4000, McVay +2800, Tomlin +2800. Hate Stefanski because as mentioned I don't think Browns are close to winning their division, Reich, Flores

You said you don’t consider 2/3 playoff years ‘much of an accomplishment’. With respect to the recent Bills history you referenced I suggested your standards for accomplishment might be a little too high.

It's pretty remarkable how you're able to plumb the depths of misery that is the Bills' recent history and yet have such high standards for what you consider an accomplishment.

Foiled!

Please don't make me do a compilation thread quote

You're right. It's way more reasonable to care about what other people think about what DO thinks.

Posted what like 25 times in this thread since it opened a couple hrs ago

$1k says Allen best ANY/A in the division by end of regular season if you aren’t accepting don’t @me

I say Allen will blow all other AFC quarterbacks out of the water by pretty much whatever metric you want to use next season and I guarantee NOBODY chirping here will take that bet

You think so too?

You're good w/Allen ranked 3rd QB in the division?