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Are they only using Allen's passing TDs for the total TD column?

You definitely don't have to continue this discussion. Hope you will but if not...no worries. You gave me statistics, and I took some time to go through a bit of film on Singletary. I thought it would make for a better discussion and it's not really my intention to make anyone upset. I'm just looking at the stats you provided and trying to dig a bit deeper. Singletary is not a north-south runner. I don't know why that statement is controversial with you. And my explanation for high average time behind the line of scrimmage was that RBs needing more time to reach the LOS does not correlate with an inflated YPA...it means he's having to do MORE work before he hits the LOS, not less.

Whens this dealio start

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But Singletary is pretty clearly anything but a north-south runner...what I see is him spending more time in the backfield avoiding unblocked defenders to make that time behind LOS higher. He's not doing the Leveon Bell wait behind a great oline and pick your hole (sorry), he's working in the backfield.

I will just ask again- what about a high average amount of time behind the LOS leads you to believe his YPC is inflated?

From what I've seen on tape he does fine vs eight man boxes.

LOL and Cover1 says he faced such fronts 24 times.

From what I saw we ran him a decent amount in 12 personnel...is it really that surprising he might have seen 8 man boxes more than eight times the whole season?

Yes you are correct, the nextgen stats are from the NFL and not ESPN. I will edit the post

Last year's class wasn't that highly regarded iirc...who would you have taken instead of our picks?

Yes. Our GM is scared to draft wideouts. Don't suppose you ever stop and think about what you're typing

Nice video!

Yes I know

It COULD be both, certainly, but from what I've seen it's more likely that it isn't.

theyre doomed

I mean in hindsight it's an obvious call

batting 1.000 so far

I acknowledged the possibility of ESPN having a different definition of '8 men in the box' due to how they gather their data via sensors in the OP. But imo the stills I put up are perfectly appropriate examples of traditional 8man fronts taken either immediately pre or post snap...I'm obviously trying to have an honest discussion or I wouldn't have gone through the trouble. You contend that these 8 plays are the entirety of the 5.3% of carries vs 8man fronts ESPN calculated for Singletary?

I did you one better and provided film. Would you care to elaborate or simply throw insults around

Still think he only faced 8man fronts 5.3% of the time?

It was used with such conviction though Are you prepared to say that maybe he faced more than 8 carries against 8man fronts? Do you understand how averaging a high amount of time behind the LOS is NOT really a good argument for an 'inflated' YPC?

I don't disagree. This was a particular conversation regarding certain specific aspects of Singletary's overall game, his propensity to face an inordinately low % of 8man fronts included.

Sorry, 1000% sample size

ESPN says he only faced an 8 man box 8 times. If these are the 8 times then I think it's fair to draw some conclusions from 100% sample size.