Nihilarian

I agree! Bills fans seem to forget the 2018 season in which Daboll would go pass happy all game as soon as the Bills got behind in as little as three points. Plus, the Bills threw deep more often over any other NFL team and yet this with one of the very worst offensive lines in the league. This made no sense. First he starts Peterman. Next he asks a very raw, inexperienced QB to throw deep which usually requires time in the pocket the QB didn't have. Once the OC saw that Allen was unbelievably good at running when the pocket breaks down, he then starts calling QB runs. This season Daboll stating that the Browns were stacking the box to stop the run this season. This with 17 passes from Allen in the first half and only 3 runs from Singletary. Against the #2 in the league pass rusher in Myles Garrett. Allen 41 passes vs 20 rushes. That Cleveland game should have been a win and Daboll was out coached by Kitchens... who was just fired! The Ravens game in which the Bills OC had no answer for that cover 0 blitz. The Ravens brought seven and Daboll had no answer, not in the run game, not in the pass game. Allen was sacked six times. This with the extra time to prepare from the Thursday night game against Dallas the week previous. Asking Josh Allen to throw 39 times vs 23 runs. Singletary averaged 5.2 yards per carry in this game and simply wasn't utilized enough. The Bills defense held that vaunted Ravens offense to 24 points when they had beaten the Patriots #1 defense by 37, Bengals by 49, Texans by 41, Rams by 45 and went on to score 42 against the NY Jets after the Buffalo game. Another game the Bills could have won. The Bills were dominated on the offensive line against the Patriots, Eagles, Ravens and this OC had no answer. I don't get the love by some for a guy who's offense this season barely scored enough against bad teams to win games.

I agree with this. It's the defense that has carried this team this season and the offense has done just enough to win games. 10 of 16 games the Bills scored 20 points or less. Yes, Josh Allen has improved this season as he now has a QB coach with real NFL actual experience as a QB coach, not a WR assistant coach as the QB coach. Josh stated on many occasions how much QB coach Ken Dorsey has helped him improve. For a lot of last season Josh didn't even have a veteran QB on the roster to help show him the ropes as all he had was Daboll. Oh, and as for change. Look what happened to Jared Goff from 2016 to 2017 when Sean McVay took over as HC, Matt LaFleur took over as the Rams OC. That Rams offense went from dead last in the NFL at 32nd in 2016 to #1 in points scored #10 in yards and Goff went from looking like a wasted #1 overall to a guy who looked like he should have been the #1 overall. 2016 stats for Goff 0-7 with a 54.6 completion percentage. In 2017, to 11-4 and a 62.1 completion percentage. Coaches should be acknowledged for what they accomplish and not for who they worked for or who they know. Yea the Bills offense has improved from 2018, 31st in yards passing, 32nd in TDs. 2019 26th in yards passing, 24th in TDs.

How can someone look at those stats and think he would be a good head coach at the NFL level? It isn't because of his offensive ingenuity. In terms of Peterman, Daboll would calls plays that Peterman simply couldn't make because he simply didn't have an arm that could complete them. What does that tell you about Daboll? With Allen, the kid has the strongest arm in the NFL and yet has the worst deep completion percentage with passes over 30 yards?

I feel the same way, Daboll is taking credit for Allen can do. Let's not forget that this is the same man who though Nathan Peterman should start the 2018 season at QB. Gregg Roman would be better, Anthony Lynn would be better. Cam Cameron would be better.

You were right as Carolina is also interested in interviewing him. Not shocked at all that "Cleveland" would want to interview him. They gave Hue Jackson another year after 1-15, 0-16 seasons. Then hired the teams RB coach in Kitchens who had no experience as a HC. Stupid is what they do... I wouldn't be shocked if they actually hired him either. Just happy to see him go. Daboll is like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde as he oft times forgets he also has a run game and goes pass happy with a young, inexperienced QB against a strong pass rush. The 2019 Buffalo Bills passing offense is 26th in yards, 24th in TDs which is about the norm for this OCs Career. And isn't the passing offense supposedly his specialty with the Patriots play book? The Bills run game is more of Allen's incredible physical talent with his 510 yards rushing and 9 TDs. Also Singletary's, Gore's talent as Daboll has about as much innovation in the run game as a clay pigeon. Like I said, if Anthony Lynn parts ways with the Chargers I hope the Bills give him a shot as OC.

I was, as it reminded me of how Jim Schwartz was over looked in Buffalo in favor of Rex Ryan. Although, Schwartz did a much better job as DC and should have gotten another shot at HC IMO. I think Williams would have done a better job as HC in Cleveland as Kitchens clearly wasn't ready in my view. The fact that they hired Hue Jackson in the first place says they aren't very good at finding the right guy. C'mon, Jackson went 1-15 in 2016 & 0-16 in 2017 and they kept him after those first two seasons? Cleveland is doomed with Dorsey as GM, Haslam as owner.

Most could see that promoting Kitchens from RB's coach to OC and again to HC was a mistake. It should have been Williams with Kitchens remaining as the OC. Williams went 5-3 after the team fired Hue Jackson 2-5-1 along with OC Todd Haley. Or at least hired a better HC. Ahh, well, stupidity...this is what helps make bad teams make bad decisions.

This reminds me of my trip to Tampa stadium for that first SB. When we got there we parked far away and took a bus to the stadium. While walking near the stadium entrance a young man with his wife was carrying one of their two children on his back piggy back style. As he got near the entrance he started getting hysterical. Put his daughter down and started saying to his wife loudly that he had lost the four SB tickets in his front shirt pocket. He then started running back the way they had come. Never did stick around to find out if he found them on the ground... On another note, some jackass tried to bring a pistol into the stadium that day.

Sitting in Tampa stadium, still have the ticket stubs and seat cushions. Same with the next three SBs the Bills lost. Worst crowd ever was in Minnesota with the obnoxious Redskin fans. Cowboys and Giants fans were a dream compared to the fans who sat behind us a few rows up from the field around the 45 yard line. However, the NFL experience was great in Minnesota as not many NFL fans showed up until the weekend.

" Allen has been woeful on passes that travel at least 30 yards. That figure, according to the passing grids found on Next Gen Stats, stands at 3-for-34, a completion percentage of 8.8 percent." https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/10/24/josh-allen-buffalo-bills-quarterback-accuracy-issues-with-deep-passes/4073264002/

I want to complain about the Buffalo Bills lack of experience in seeing that cover one blitz and defeating it with the Bills OC, QB and line. And yet, this same thing happened to the Chiefs with a better OC (offensive minded HC) a better line, better receiver corps and QB. I think I heard that Josh Allen is something like 3 for 34 on deep throws (over 30 yards) this season (8.8 completion percentage) and it seemed it was so much better last season with Foster. This is something I don't get at all because Allen with that arm of his should be very good at throwing that deep ball. Its not like his receivers don't have the speed either because Brown runs a 4:43 and Foster runs a 4.41 and even McKenzie ran a 4:42.

Agreed One player on the D line is not going to take this team to the super bowl. Not when the defense is already #2 in points allowed, #3 in yards allowed. This team needs upgrades at many positions and mostly on offense! The Eagles, the Patriots, the Ravens all proved that the Bills O line is not good enough. OG, OT The Bills D line is not good enough, DE. The Bills outside pass rush is not good enough, OLB. The Bills receiver corps is not good enough WR, TE. The Bills need their first round picks with all the rest. Trent Murphy gonna be 30, Hughes 31

The Patriots triple teamed him and made him invisible in the super bowl. Me, I'd rather spread that money around to the rest of the team in building it up. Tre and others are going to need to get paid. Besides, this FO has shown they know talent so let them draft a WR, DE, OLBer, OT.

Not all QBs develop at the same pace and as the late great Bill Walsh used to say, it generally takes four years to fully develop a QB. Jim Kelly didn't fare all that well in his first two seasons in the NFL and had a 59.7 completion percentage those first two. 4-12, 7-8. The Bills are currently 10-5 and IN the playoffs. There was only a 4% chance the Bills take the division. It came down to one pass to tie the game against the #1 defense in the league AT New England. Aside from seeing what will happen in this years playoffs. I can't wait to see what this GM, HC do in the upcoming off season to find that #1 WR like Julio Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans. Upgrade the O line and Pass rush. Its an exciting time to be a Buffalo Bills fan!

With any luck perhaps the Bills face this team again in a few weeks...with a different outcome.

I've been one of his biggest critics this season. Yet, he doesn't throw, doesn't block. The offense needs some better talent and we will see. Allen needs more experience. The Line needs upgrades. The offense needs that one go to WR /TE that can't be stopped. Still, the Bills were in the red zone about to score to tie the game and just couldn't get it done...against the leagues #1 defense. If I find fault its that the run game needs to be more diverse along with finding a way to get that run game going against anyone.

There was thread after thread of some homers here talking crap before the season about if McD is going to be back next year if the Bills don't do well. All they did was complain about this GM & HC and talking about all the mistakes they have made...about getting rid of top talent like Sammy Watkins. Yet,10-5 and IN the playoffs. You know what? Those fans are still not happy. Yes, this was their first season out of cap hell, and that cap hell was without paying an elite QB. This regime didn't go crazy and sign one of those over priced cancer players. The bills have all their picks for next year to find that elite #1 WR, beef up the pass rush and O line. Be happy, they could still go all the way!

Jim Kelly played two seasons in the USFL under Mouse Davis and then in 1986 went 4-12 his first season in the NFL. 9-7 in his second season. In those first two NFL seasons he only completed 59.7% of his passes. He needed better players around him...just like Josh Allen!

Guys, the Bills came within one play of tying the team with the goat at QB with the #1 defense in the league. Plus, the Buffalo Bills are 10-5 and in the playoffs. Just relax willyas.

Welp, if the Bills beat up on Brady and he can't play against Miami. If so, I think Fitz will be this years hero much like Andy Dalton was in 2017.

Seriously, a coronary on the way from the end of this game...

On the deep throws against Baltimore. Lamar Jackson didn't complete his deeper throws either, save for that one to the TE. In actuality, it went 21 yards in the air. My take is that Josh has been told to limit the turnovers since the NE game so if he is going to err, it will be an overthrow rather than under throwing. My point though is when the Bills OC sees that his QB is having great difficulty on the day AND the Bills ran Singletary seven straight times effectively in the first series in the second quarter to gain two first downs. Then Allen ran for another first down in that same drive. Why, why, why keep calling pass plays the rest of the game? Its like all Daboll thought about is working the passing game despite everything else. The thing is, again going back to Miami, Denver, Dallas with Bills rushes vs passes. Miami, 34 rushes vs 33 passes. Denver, 47 rushes vs 25 passes. (at that time Denver had one of the best run defenses in the league #4 if I recall correctly) Dallas, 34 rushes vs 25 passes. Cleveland, 20 rushes vs 41 passes. Baltimore, 23 rushes vs 39 passes. In conclusion: want to win? Run the ball more often and pass less. Yes, Buffalo is currently #6 in rushing attempts, #5 in rushing yards. However, Josh Allen has 439 of those rushing yards with 8 rushing TDs. The Vikings Dalvin Cook has 1108 rushing yards with 13 rushing TDs. Lamar Jackson has 1103 rushing yards, 7 TDs, Mark Ingram has 963 rushing yards 10 TDs.

You would have to think so to retain any sort of hope for the season. The thing is we all saw this same thing against the Browns game (which was also very winnable) as Daboll went pass happy to the tune of 17 Allen passes in the first half and only 3 Singletary runs, 1 Gore run. Now, Daboll stated that the reason he didn't run Singletary more was because the Browns were stacking the box. I say bullcrap! Singletary 4 yards, Gore 4 yards, Singletary 9 yards, Singletary 8 yards. Singletary 3 rushes for 21 yards= 7 yards per carry. Meanwhile, just like in the Browns game Daboll had Allen playing right into the teeth of that Cleveland defense against the #2 sacker in the NFL at the time in Myles Garrett. Who had two QB hits on Allen along with a bunch of pressures. Allen 22 of 41 for 266 yards, 2 rushing TDs. In my view, either Brian Daboll is attempting to force Josh Allen into passing situations which sort of make no sense in an effort to make him better? (all those deep passing attempts on a windy day) (Allen needed to throw the ball with velocity that day so the ball didn't drift all over and get intercepted. The announcer stated he should throw with more air under it with touch... and that ball would be picked off. That announcer, like Daboll were in the booth and didn't take the wind into account.) Or, he is simply being out coached again and again? Daboll had extra time to think up a decent game plan with plenty of film on what the Ravens have done all season...and failed to dial up a game winning scheme. Adjustments during the game, Dabolls answer, keep passing... A cursory glance at Allen’s incompletions Sunday (22 in all, plus another three on plays that were called back) shows just how high a priority pressure was. The Ravens came after him like they were auditioning for “Mad Max: Fury Road.” According to an unofficial review of the game, the Ravens sent four or fewer pass rushers on just five of those 25 unsuccessful drop-backs — an 80% blitz rate. On Allen’s five incompletions in the game’s decisive drive, Martindale sent six rushers three times and saved a seven-man rush for the knockout blow. https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-ravens-bills-defense-20191209-ci4i7cxeuzenfnalwtcxmettjm-story.html I think the man is simply not that good and looking at his coaching history proves this.

When you look at the drives and series by the Bills this day I come away scratching my head as to what the Bills OC is doing? This season Allen has one of the worst deep completion percentages in the league and those deep passes are a high risk, low percentage completion rate for any QB, especially Allen. Four deep passes attempted by Allen in the first quarter, all incomplete. Jackson threw two deep, all incomplete. It was also a very windy day so why even attempt to throw deep? While I understand the idea behind the deep pass is to put the fear of god in the opposing defense so they back off stacking the box and think more about the nickle. What those deep passes by Buffalo managed to do was the opposite of what was intended as the Ravens saw that Allen wasn't going to hurt them deep they stepped up their blitzing. In the first series of the second quarter the Bills ran seven straight run plays by Singletary and the result was two first downs and Allen ran for another. The result of that drive was a FG and no sacks on Allen. Now, Singletary managed 42 yards rushing in that series on seven carries. That's six yards per carry. What happened in the very next Bills series is somewhat perplexing to me is after doing so well in the run game the Bills OC calls Gore's number for two runs while dialing up another deep pass that went incomplete. This series ended in a sack on Allen for -7 yards with a punt afterwards. The next series with 1:58 to go on the Ravens 49 because of a turnover. Five passes and a sack with a FG. More of the same in the second half as the Bills move away from running Singletary like they did and went pass happy...more sacks, more incomplete passes, more punts. The Bills best receiver this day was Singletary with 8 targets, 6 receptions for 29 yards. That #7 is glaring to me and in my view the biggest reason as to why the Buffalo Bills lost a game they could have/should have won. HARSH REALITY! Bills fans talking about playoffs...and yet don't realize that if the Bills OC keeping doing what he did or more importantly didn't do (Game plan was lacking even with extended to to prepare from Thurs night). The Bills might not win another game this season and finish 9-7 while missing the playoffs. That Ravens game might be the closest the Bills come to having a home playoff game this season.

So, did Allen have the latitude to decide to throw deep so often in that Ravens game? Does he have the ability to change the play call at the LoS depending on what he sees from the defense? It would be nice to know if it was Allen changing the play from a run to a pass or was the play call a deep pass? The Bills series in the first quarter went Punt, Punt, Punt, Fumble with two sacks along the way. Nine pass attempts vs four rush attempts. The Bills first series in the second quarter the Bills went with six straight runs by Singletary for two first downs and another run by Allen for another first down. Three passes and seven runs and the result was a FG. A very positive result that negated the pass rush and ended with a score. Eight rush attempts vs three pass attempts. The next Bills series they went with Gore 2x runs vs four passes and a sack, Punt! Questions: why go away from Singletary in the run game and why start throwing more again? Next series with 1:58 left in the first half on the Ravens 49 from a Ravens turnover. INT. Bills went Pass, pass, pass, pass, sack, pass, FG. In the second half the Bills went pass happy again. First series, sack / fumble, penalty on Balt 15 yards, pass, pass, run, pass, pass, FG. That one drive with six straight runs by Singletary the Bills drove down the field and scored. By running so much it took away the Ravens ability to sack Allen and took the ball out of Allen's hands who was having a very erratic day passing. I don't get all the pass plays after the Bills moved the ball so well by running, especially with Allen hurting his ankle.