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They could; you just don’t see it cause assistant QB coaches make very little compared to a PS player. He would just have to sign anywhere. He’ll be a coach of that I’m certain. But while he still can “play” it makes way more sense for HIM to be on a team as a player in any capacity.

Sure. I should’ve probably clarify that the value he would represent is as a bridge QB. Even the Daboll takes him thoughts center around him as a bridge. Not sure if you meant he’ll never be a season long starter in the NFL again. If that’s what you meant I’m not quite there. thanks again for clarifying

Thanks for the follow up. I got twisted with all the quotes. I can see a world where Mitch stays but I suspect he will get at least 1 reg season game which will demonstrate his worth to other teams. Fromm is the interesting one. Do we cut bait after a year? Can we get something for him (probably not)? But yes I agree we dont need to keep Fromm.

You think they keep both Fromm and Trubisky multiple years including this year?

Agree with much of your post but wouldnt call Davis (6'3" and 212 pound) small. Maybe you were thinking of McKenzie?

Was he that good of a young prospect? He was a liability on defense before this preseason. I was all aboard the trade Addison train but I am fine with this. Get something from the rooms that have good talent instead of cutting good talent.

Which players do you think we will cut that will start for another team? I agree we will cut NFL rosterable players but I dont see us cutting someone that could start. They would remain on as a backup for us.

I would not before last year we had some pretty good defenses. Unless folks think that was all Shaq and Jordan Phillips then maybe we can be ok with our defense. At the end of the year we were playing as a top 10 defense Design is that he had no prep so he wanted to see a rep like that.

Giants winning NFC Eastdivision also seems off.

I just want to dream... Really was hoping that Salah would stop whatever they roll out for an offense week 2 which meant they could steal a win. Your points about their front 4 though make sense.

Before the injuries I was pretty interested in betting the over on their win total. Now, I just hope they manage to win those games so they fall down the draft. Really hoping they could beat the pats once as you dont really need a pass rush to beat Cam in week 2. That could also continue to take the shine off BB since it would be wilson doing the winning.

Sure but I would be more happy if they beat all those teams and had pick 8 or something

AJ was doing some Lorax things (also has his number) as a pass rusher. He was standing up in amoeba front from the @Cover 1film Breakdown. @Hapless Bills Fanmight also find it interesting

Jets get to play two of those (eagles and Texans) and also get the bengals. Along with games against the Jags and Broncos they could play them selves out of the top 5? That would be the Jet thing to do.

yup and I understand the logic of this being why Butler over Zimmer. Someone said it up thread but Zimmer and Butler also sorta play different positions. At 1 Tech its sorta Butler versus Harry.

I get the logic, and think you make the exact case for why Butler over Zimmer. Ultimately, I don't agree cause I havent see Butler do it well, but we shall see very soon what the coaching staff thinks. I would also note cap impact for both these players would strongly favor Zimmer.

Thanks. I think Zimmer > Butler. I also think it might be tough (and I usually dont think its tough) to get him to PS, since he was claimed at one point last season.

How many DT do you have them going with. I have 4: Ed, Star, Zimmer, Harry. Do you have less? Do you have Butler on the team? I would also note that Zimmer got a lot of snaps last year with Harry on the team. So unless you think Star makes all the difference (and Butler is better than Zimmer) than I'm not sure how reconcile that fact.

If youre measuring impact to the team youre gonna need to show me the 10 plays where harrison phillips saves us from an embarrassing loss to the Pats by punching the ball out of Cams hands. I have both making the team.

Particularly when the rest of the room isn’t deep. I am for trading Butler, Addison, Klein. But those are deep rooms. We have no security if we trade Mitch.

To me it’s that we always have an eye on the long term cap situation and this would help. I like this move because we have so much depth at the position. Choices seem to be Cut Bam (maybe Obada but Ive liked his play) or trade Addison get 4 mil in cap and keep Bam. I’ll take the later as I didn’t see Addison do much for us the second half of the year (large part of that was snap count which could go down this year making him more effective). With what I have seen from AJE and Groot I think we have already upgraded the position group without Addison. Lastly we have a vet in the room in Jerry. lastly I’m surprised the board banging for Murphy’s head last season isn’t more on board with this move considering we have seen more out of our young DE this year than last.

Welcome to the club. I’ve been here for a week. I would literally take anything for him. Not because I don’t think he’s good but because the trade part is so crucial to the potential savings with his salary guaranteed. He’s either traded or on the team. I hope he can fetch a 7th. Literally anything for him is great cause we can’t really cut him. Also his salary isn’t that bad (only 4 mil)

So cover 0 and who’s covering Breida in that situation? That’s asking for a house call.

I understand your point, but I think Beane has been pretty open that he is thinking long term about cap. See his comments about Josh's contract and how every move was planned around that. Between those two guys thats ~7 million dollars. Long term that is capable starter at a lot of spots or depth at multiple spots. I think the balance thats going on is maximizing opportunity this year (give me the best roster we can) with maximizing the opportunity in subsequent years (maintaining cap room to make moves in the future).

The one thats interesting to me is Addison. I think hes probably our 3rd or 4th best DE but I think I would want to trade him (cut does have a bit of dead money) to get some cap savings while still having Hughes, Groot, AJE, Efe, Boogie, Bam. Otherwise were cutting someone pretty good. AJ Klein is another one. Hes def 3rd or 4th best LB I think, but I would prefer cap savings from him with how deep we are in the LB corps. Again has to be a trade I think.