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Are we talking about watt not being named a captain? He seems more up in the air than I thought at the start of the weekend.

So I don’t need to watch now that the season has been spoiled

Only last year were we weak against tight ends. We have been good other years. Run defense has been a problem but I don’t think they have the horses on OL.

I think youre calling Gronk last year a star? He played well in that game but I'm not sure he was a star for the year. Also looking prior to the last 7 years there was a dearth of TE talent in Super Bowl. I agree a star TE can be a tactical advantage but with limited resources how do you prioritize getting one. Are they more important than a number 3 receiver? a number 2?

Hes essentially being double teamed so yes i think it can happen. On the cody and ike discussions i think its gonna be a rotation right away. ford might start but i think ike will get reps in the games.

Word I agree. Thanks.

Sure but if were gonna contextualize the losses I think the wins should be as well. Rams had 4 TOs! in that game. Cardinals gave up a huge defensive TD that was I think at least a 10 point swing. Oakland you took off his win total but is almost certainly a loss if he stays in the game. Also very hard to get too excited by his <175 yards passing in wins against chargers and Pats. I also see some fortunate ST plays like a blocked punt against chargers and missed game tying FG on the final drive of the Cardinals game. Basically wins and losses are a team stat. I thought you were on board with that.

Early in the 4th quarter last year of week 2 I realized we were playing Fitzmagic. When Josh out dueled him I knew it was gonna be a special year. So Fitz was pretty good last year (granted all the caveats about our defense).

Cause of the dead cap Butler is not a great person for the vested veteran re-sign game. You have to pay him his guaranteed salary and then re-sign him with a new deal. Doesn't make much sense.

Agree Mac is a better passer. Was really trying to say they attack similar parts of the field (Middle and TEs). Lamar had a better line his first few years than Mac's this year. Probably a bit of a toss up right now which is better, but I can get on board with Pats OL > Ravens OL. I like Meyers don't know if I see that coming. Their offense is much better imo. They have a lot of weapons but a poor QB.

Don't forget Spencer Brown in the Lee Smith role

Sure and honestly I think his game so far has translated to the NFL about as well as can be expected. However I still see a huge windup to get the ball to the middle of the field. Processing seems to the be key to me. If he can be elite in that space he has a chance to be a good QB. Unfortunately you dont really get a good test of that in the preseason. Sure. You were the one who mentioned Brady so I thought I would sort out the part about Brady being special. Yes youre right this is their offense; however, you also don't see many high octane running offenses. The exception is Lamar who does similar things in the passing game (albeit in a less accurate way), but without his speed I dont know that yall will generate enough points.

Prior to last year we had been very good at covering TEs. We have also given more headaches to the best run offense in the league (Ravens) than any one else. I think Pats will be too one dimensional for their run game to be effective.

As @PatsFanNH mentioned up thread there is not another Brady so.... It being not in the offense is the point. Teams wont have to guard against it and can throw more peeps in the middle to stop those throws. Thats where he seems to be doing damage in the preseason. It might not be the first half of the season but it will get taken away eventually. Thats when well see if Mac will be any good.

I think its impressive from a GM perspective. Really shows how him and McD work together. Theserookies are not necessarily the best players at this moment. For example I think Josh Thomas played better than Hamlin (its close so fine if someone disagrees), but I definitely still wanted Hamlin on the roster (even potentially over Thomas). The reason (I think but would like some help with) is to retain that rookie contract and control. This doesnt happen if McD and Beane are not on the same page for roster construction both this year and going forward.

Appreciate the follow up on this rule; I was sorta answering a different question which is a bit different than the question asked and I think your answer is better for the question asked. The question I was thinking about was why don't we just make Webb a coach? For that question I just don't think its enticing enough for Webb because we wouldnt pay him as much as he would make as a player (again assuming hes not being hidden there to play later per the rule you stated). Yes you can pay a coach whatever you want, but if you start playing an Assistant QB coach so much you better believe its gonna make all your other coaches more expensive. Again thanks for the indicating the rule.

They could; you just don’t see it cause assistant QB coaches make very little compared to a PS player. He would just have to sign anywhere. He’ll be a coach of that I’m certain. But while he still can “play” it makes way more sense for HIM to be on a team as a player in any capacity.

Sure. I should’ve probably clarify that the value he would represent is as a bridge QB. Even the Daboll takes him thoughts center around him as a bridge. Not sure if you meant he’ll never be a season long starter in the NFL again. If that’s what you meant I’m not quite there. thanks again for clarifying

Thanks for the follow up. I got twisted with all the quotes. I can see a world where Mitch stays but I suspect he will get at least 1 reg season game which will demonstrate his worth to other teams. Fromm is the interesting one. Do we cut bait after a year? Can we get something for him (probably not)? But yes I agree we dont need to keep Fromm.

You think they keep both Fromm and Trubisky multiple years including this year?

Agree with much of your post but wouldnt call Davis (6'3" and 212 pound) small. Maybe you were thinking of McKenzie?

Was he that good of a young prospect? He was a liability on defense before this preseason. I was all aboard the trade Addison train but I am fine with this. Get something from the rooms that have good talent instead of cutting good talent.

Which players do you think we will cut that will start for another team? I agree we will cut NFL rosterable players but I dont see us cutting someone that could start. They would remain on as a backup for us.

I would not before last year we had some pretty good defenses. Unless folks think that was all Shaq and Jordan Phillips then maybe we can be ok with our defense. At the end of the year we were playing as a top 10 defense Design is that he had no prep so he wanted to see a rep like that.

Giants winning NFC Eastdivision also seems off.