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I have no idea, but I do believe that these two are in synch and if something goes south, they both own it.

Nope - Ike died before I was born, but I'm fond of the saying. If Boettger can develop and become a contributor or starter, perhaps the saying will have a rejuvenation among Bills fans! Note the Bills colors in the button....

They Like Ike?

I disagree with this move. If Fitz was struggling, I would agree it was time to make the switch, but they are in the hunt and having a very respectable season. They are building towards something (which isn't good for the Bills, but good for them) and developing confidence, learning how to win, etc. If they sneak into the playoffs with Fitz, great, and you build on that. Once Fitz starts playing badly, or if you are mathematically eliminated from the race, then you go with Tua. This decision could cause dissention in the locker room and derail the progress they are building. I suppose, on the other hand, if Tua plays well, this could turn our to be the right move. Time will tell.

This is all true, but no team in the NFL is perfect on both sides of the ball, and special teams, at one time. I can write off Tuesday's game as an aberration (Tennessee is a good team and the Bills had a bad game, along with injuries to key players), but if we bounce back and go toe-to-toe with KC on Monday, I will believe that the Bills are a good as anyone else in the league and have as good of a shot as anyone. As Allen gets closer to his payday, the cap flexibility window starts to close, and they have to strike when they can. And yes, the Bills D was better with Shaq and Phillips (and Lorax), but those guys were up for long-term deals and while the Bills have cap space for THIS YEAR for their contracts, they don't/won't have it long term. You can't pay every good player their maximum contract value and stay under the cap.

I have no problem signing Bell for this season. I have my doubts as to how effective he is these days, but our running game is not good this year. If he works out, great; if he doesn't, he's gone after the season and no future cap hit (at least, that's how I understand it). That said, we need more help at LB and CB than at RB.

Based on what I have seen, Tannehill is a good, starting-caliber NFL QB. He was pretty bad with the Dolphins, but he was with Adam Gase and on a bad team. He had occasional good games, but wasn't good overall and that's why the Fins let him walk. Since getting the opportunity with the Titans, he has played well and played a lot of winning football. He doesn't the the high ceiling of a guy like Allen, but he can be a very effective NFL starter, and certainly was last night. And, to be clear, I am not a fan of the guy, although I am fond of his wife.

Here is my fair and balanced post: Anti-Bills: They lack depth and miss their injured players. John Brown makes a lot of great plays for the offense and draws coverage away from other guys. The defense is not the same without its 2 starting CBs and its (arguably) best LB. This year's defense, even with a full lineup, is not very good. They are thin at LB and CB, the D-line misses Star as a run-stuffer/blocker occupier and the pass rush is not getting to the QB. The Bills don't have much of a run game this year. It seems to be a combination of the line not effectively opening up holes and the RBs being small and lacking power and burst. (Maybe Yeldon can help - he was effective last night.) The Bills played a terrible game in all phases last night - they laid an egg. The coaching staff did not have them ready. I get the sense they were overlooking the Titans, who were a mess due to the COVID thing, and were looking ahead to the Chiefs. Pro-Bills: The Titans are a really good team. They were in the AFC Championship game last year for a reason. They throttled Baltimore in the playoffs. A team can lose to them without necessarily being a bad team. Most teams have a couple of bad games during the season. The Super Bowl Bills teams certainly did, the Super Bowl Patriots have too. The Bills are 4-1 and in first place at the quarter pole. Nothing to complain about. Other than the Jests, the Bills have beaten some good teams. The Dolphins aren't Super Bowl contenders, but are a solid, middle-of-the-pack competitive team. The Raiders and Rams are among the better teams in the league, evidenced by the Raiders beating KC last week and the Rams beating everyone other than the Bills. The Bills have a lot of talented players, including a franchise QB. They can use last night's game as a wakeup call and get back on track. The world is not ending and nobody needs to be fired or have their extension rescinded. As mentioned above, the Bills played a terrible game last night and got blown out by a good team that was more ready to play, but they are 4-1 and in first place. There is plenty of time for the injured guys to return and for the coaching staff to get them back on track.

Agreed. The Steelers offered him very good money and term, plus he would have remained in a place where he had sustained success. He gambled and lost.

I grew up in the Northtowns, so the only time I was near Big Tree was on gameday, and we always ate and drank at tailgates, so I have never been there. Given the proximity to the stadium, the history with the Bills and the reports of great wings, I have always wanted to get there. May its former owner RIP.

I agree with the previous post. Two examples from his rookie year are the road throttling of Minnesota and the series of bombs to Robert Foster. I think he had a fantastic game at Miami that season too, albeit in a loss (when Charles Clay had his hands on the winning TD at the goal line and couldn't hang on). Allen didn't suddenly become great. Like coach says, it's a process.

I like Tyrod and feel bad for him. Wally Pipped again. Really bad luck for Tyrod, but the fact is that these young guys who are getting the chance are playing better than he is capable of, so it's only a matter of time in these situations. I could see Tyrod going to yet another team with a newly drafted QB and being named the starter for a few weeks and losing the job again (let's hope it won't be injury-related next time). It's his "pattern," just like Fitz has his own "pattern." Rinse and repeat.

I don't want to win by forefeit. Two reasons: 1) the Bills are having a great season and don't want to have anything on their record that anyone could question the legitimacy of; and 2) I really like watching the Bills pay on Sundays and would like to so do this Sunday. It's one of the things I enjoy more than almost anything - perhaps my favorite thing to do (particularly this year, when they are really good and very entertaining). That said, I don't think the league should subject the Bills players to the risk of contracting COVID from the Titans and it seems like postponing the game will wreak havoc on the NFL schedule, given the Bills' next game is on a Thursday and the Titans have a game scheduled during the Bills' bye week. Changing the schedule could also impact other teams like the Chiefs, etc. So a forefeit probably is the most sensible thing to do. It would give the Bills the added benefit of some extra rest and preparation for the Chiefs (and the defense is pretty banged up right now and could use it), but again, I don't want the legitimacy of any Bills wins questioned down the pike.

Not sure BoB is a process guy. If Daboll moves on, I don't want this jerk in the building.

I agree with the poster above who said that the Pats would lose to KC regardless of which of their QBs plays. That said, Hoyer is a bit like Fitz. He is a veteran journeyman backup that has bounced around the league. He 's had several stints where he has made starts and played extremely well and looks like he could be a long-term starter, then he tends to revert back to poor play and teams move on from him. He could come out hot and play a really great game, although I still think the Chiefs offense is too potent and KC will win. Note I am only comparing Hoyer's on the field product to Fitz's. From a personality perspective, Fitz is a great guy that nobody compares to! (I know nothing about Hoyer's personality, nor do I really care!) As to the Titans' situation, it is unprecedented, but I think the chaos they are facing right now could be an advantage to the Bills.

I'm an NFL football addict, but even I will struggle to watch this one. I'll probably put in on the background while doing other things. I don't have any fantasy players from either team and I pity anyone who does. One poster above mentioned the Jests D, which might have some value tonight, I suppose (as might the Broncos D). That's about it.

No question. Edmunds and Milano are good ones, but we don't have much LB depth after that. Maybe Dodson? And Milano isn't guaranteed to sign. LBs don't always go high, but we won't be picking high, so perhaps one will slot in at the back of the 1st round, where the Bills will be picking. It seems like we have more depth at just about all other positions.

Without all of the injuries, maybe they'd have a chance to win a few ballgames like they did at the end of last season. But they do have the injuries, things are unraveling quickly, and they are a total dumpster fire.

I love Fitz. This thread is a fun diversion on for a Friday afternoon.

I actually like this idea. Gronk doesn't have much left in the tank, but he still can play a little bit and Allen has more to offer him than Brady at this point. The Bucs have depth at the position and he's not the main guy by any means. Can he block as well as Smith? He'd probably be excited to play for his hometown team before he retires. That said, without fans this year, it wouldn't be the same experience for him.

I would really enjoy spending an hour watching the breakdown of Allen's game on Sunday. Unfortunately my job and family get in the way. I will have to rely on others at TBD to fill me on on what it shows. Thanks to the OP for posting this and pointing out some of the highlights! Let's hope Josh can continue his fine play against a stronger defense in the Rams.

Sayers was one of the most electric, elusive backs of all time. His moves were unmatched. From my time, only Barry Sanders and OJ were even close. Also, when I lived in Chicago, I dated a girl who lived in the same condo building as Sayers. We'd see him around from time to time. He was very friendly and humble. You wouldn't know he was a celebrity if someone didn't tell you who he was.

You could be wrong, but I hope you are right! While mathematically (for division and conference standings and playoff tie-breakers), a game vs. an NFC opponent doesn't carry as much weight as an AFC game or a divisional game, with only 16 games, every game counts. If one or both of them are healthy enough to play, they will likely play.

Just a sense from what I have seen over the years, but I believe that the franchise and fanbase that Fitzy associates with most closely (other than where he might be playing at any given time) is Buffalo. The Bills were the ones that gave him the big contract and it's where he became a starter. The franchise and community fit well with his personality. As a lifelong member of the Bills "family," plus their common membership in the NFL QB "club," these guys know each other and, as another poster mentioned, they have played golf together in the past. So they are friends to some extent, and just shared a hello and a few words after the game. Probably a few more words than during the typical QB-to-QB post-game handshake.

Last year and this offseason, my biggest concern as far as depth was/is the LB position. Much more there than DB, OL, RB, etc. That said, I trust that Beane and McDermott know what they're doing and if they thought that the guys we have (such as Dodson) were good enough, perhaps we were/are OK. We'll find out on Sunday. We should still be able to score enough points to beat the Fish, but losing two key defenders will help Miami's offense and the game will be close than it would have been if Edmonds and Milano were playing.