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I had the #3 pick in an NFL.COM PPR 12 team snake league. I picked Antonio Brown...by the time my second pick came, all "sure thing #1 RB's" were off the board, so I picked Gronkowski. My QB's: Jamies Winston and Jay Cutler My Running Backs: Joe Mixon, CJ Anderson, Doug Martin, Rob Kelley, Jonathan Stewart, and Jamaal Williams My receivers: Antonio Brown, Keenan Allen, DeSean Jackson, Kenny Stills, Zay Jones My TE's: Rob Gronkowski and CJ Fidorowics PK: Blair Walsh DEF/ST: Seattle Seahawks I am pretty happy with everything, except my running backs...if Mixon turns out to be the stud that he is purported to be, I will be in decent shape...

Normally I agree with you...but you really think Kelly and Marino are two of the most overrated players in NFL history? I am kind of surprised to hear that. I know I am going to sound like a total homer, but I think, if anything, Marino was perhaps a little overrated, and Kelly a little under...though, both in the HOF, so hard to argue Jim is underrated. I do know, with Kelly, as a season ticket holder through the 80's, his presence on the Bills roster elevated the team play, pretty much from day one. I suppose you could argue that Kelly was "surrounded by talent", but his physical skills were matched by his intangibles. His failures are well documented, but his level of success was pretty high. He may not belong in the "very elite" QB's in history, all-time...but I'd say he was on the cusp. Marino, to me, always had the rocket arm, the accuracy, but it just never translated into much team success for him. He played with a lot of anger, and I am not sure it really inspired his teammates.

Even with Shady, I think a .500 season would be a pretty monumental feat for this 2017 team.

Perhaps, but money, and the likely inability to re-sign him was cited by the boy genious (Beane) as a mitigating factor in their willingness to trade Watkins. If Sammy is smart, he will spend his one year in LA, and go to a better team.

EJ was not sharp in the second pre-season game, after looking pretty decent in the first one. I happened to see both of his games with the Raiders. One think I noticed with him, in Oakland, they had him rolling out of the pocket a lot more than the Bills ever did...and he looked much more confident on roll-outs than he does standing back in the pocket. EJ will likely never amount to much, but it did illustrate to me how un-imaginative our offensive coaching has been for a long time. I had hopes that Dennison would not be afraid to coach the Bills offense as if it was a real NFL offense, but he seems to be losing pieces by the day...

It was likely McDermotts as much as anyone. From the sounds of it, Whaley had very little input into anything after McDermott was hired...he knew he was being kept on, solely to finish the work that he and his staff did with the draft. Of course, there is no way of knowing for sure, but I would be willing to bet anything, were Whaley not on his way out the door, he would have picked up Sammy's option. McDermott was the new messiah at that point.

Honestly, I have been following the Bills for too long to trust them to go all in on a top 10 QB, and have it work out...this franchise has never been able to develop a QB, at least in the modern era. Kelly came to them with two years of slinging the ball all over in the USFL. Flutie and Bledsoe were as good as they were going to be by the time the Bills got them...Ferguson had a long careeer, but it was a much different era, and QB's had much more time to hone their craft. There hasn't been much else...hate feeling so bad about this team, because, even in the worst of times, I am normally mister optimist by late August...I just am not seeing anything to hang our hats on for the forseeable future. I am hopeful McDermott can deliver and make this a respectable defense once again, but I think we are 3 years away, minimum, from being a playoff contender....and even that depends on a high rate of return on all of these draft picks.

I honestly think, had the Pegulas let Whaley pick his own coach, we would be talking about a return to the playoffs...Ryan was a disastrous hire, on all fronts. All those praising Beane for being "bold", in my opinion, are way off... he is playing it completely safe. The choice not to exercise Watkins was a bad one, and trading him for an marginal DB and a lottery ticket was just bad. It's much easier to tare a team apart than to build one. Ask Tim Murray. The Colts "sucked for Luck", and now, they pretty much "suck with Luck"... Whaley really wasn't the problem with this franchise....

I hate the whole "tank" phenomenon. Hate it. It's even worse for football, when there are so few games. As an old, long-time fan, I have to say, I just wasn't made for these times. I hate the fact that we are on the precipice of horrible season, and I hate that so many fellow fans are embracing it. Yuck...it's all wrong.

The Browns are two years ahead of us on the tank....

Bannon is out! https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/us/politics/steve-bannon-trump-white-house.html?mcubz=3

I love Sammy, and still think this was a really bad trade. That said, I am not sure, even if Sammy starts 16 games, that he is going to put up the kind of numbers that his detractors will be impressed by. Goff is terrible...and he can't throw the long-ball. I have a feeling he is going to struggle there...if I were him, I'd be careful about signing any extensions, and take my chance on the open market. If he stays healthy, he'll get paid by somebody.

It is relevant to a degree. The last GM was crucified by the media and fans for not being truthful about the way Rex Ryans' departure was handled. Sammy Watkins is better at what he does, than Rex was at what he did....

Any trades should be on the table at this point. This season is going to be "more of the same" or "worse than usual" it is looking like. Beane and McDermott want their own guys, their own identity. It would only make sense to listen to all offers. We gave away, maybe, our best player for little...I am a Tyrod supporter, but the writing is on the wall. I am pretty certain, barring some miraculous start by Tyrod, or the team as a whole, Peterman is going to be the starter before the season is over. I am certain we wouldn't get more than a 3rd, possibly a 4th for Tyrod.

I fail to see how Matthews (even if his sternum wasn't chipped), when you take away Sammy Watkins, makes the Bills any better... there are some who act like Watkins was this constant "Dez Bryant" size headache for the team...at some point, this franchise has to do something, to constantly get the benefit of every doubt...maybe it all pays off with the 9 million draft picks we have later, but right now it feels like a lot of bumbling around....and just a conscious effort by the new regime to get rid of as many players possibly, that Doug Whaley drafted. It's just stupid.

Doug Whaley didn't draft Matthews?

Your robes are showing

He's just a young white kid...he was scared. Doesn't he deserve a break? Not even an experienced Nazi☺

Why not? His words were carefully chosen, as to not offend them..yet he's willing to threaten nuclear war as just sort of "off the cuff" remark. He needs that 38% to continue loving him...

Not really...it just provides some clarification as to who he is.

http://coed.com/2017/08/12/james-alex-fields-jr-charlottesville-suspect-arrest-driver-rams-car-into-protesters-white-nationalist-rally-counter-protest-injuries/

You are in denial Rob...

If people wanting equality treatment for minorities under the law, makes them "anti-white"(according to you, the lifelong Virginian) don't you think your focus of blame is a little misguided?

Ignorance hurts

I'm kind of excited about the Bucs.