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No, I meant in prior chances at the position... It was ugly

Seemingly everyone forgot that Urbick simply CANNOT shotgun snap? That just slightly hinders an offense....

Thats just it- I thanked Astro for that as well. The other thing I saw Friday at Camp that I don't see ANYWHERE is that Tyrod doesn't throw on time. He rarely makes a decision and throws it within a 3 to 4 second window. That should be a MASSIVE red flag to ALL the reporters / experts / wtvr they claim to be.

Thanks Astro! I share your thoughts on Randell Johnson - He is a total beast in waiting. He was eating up blockers in that same drill Friday afternoon. Thanks for your reports being more realistic and unbiased regarding the QB's ( P. Harvin not running the route correctly, etc.). On Friday I noticed that Tyrod almost never gets the ball out in time. ( generally in a real NFL drop back your going to get 3 seconds, maybe 4 at most to decide and throw). Unfortunately , for me, this rules out ANY chance of him realistically starting for the Bills. I can definitely see him coming in for spot duty though. Ej seems to be much better at the long balls than he used to be... Still a bit inconsistent on the shorter throws. I'd go with EJ if I were them, but I can see them leaning to Cassel still. He won't fair any better than Orton unfortunately though. A point regrading your mention of the TE's - don't forget Marquise Gray ( to me he's a lock and the #2 ). O'leary was getting absolutely blown up in the TE/FB/RB vs. outside pass rush drill this past Friday.

This ^^

Haha ... Wtvr the spelling is

I bet he starts opposite Gilmour. He's become a good player and this is the perfect scheme for his skills.

Yes. All Day. Hot pocket experts be damned. With relatively equal Quarterbacking and good fortune with injuries, Sammy is going to end up better than all the guys in his class by a lot IMO.... Even if no, we wouldn't getting a savior QB this year at pick 19.

why would you redraft any position group from a draft that occured less than a year ago? O-linemen can certainly often do take more than one season to develop. Hot pocket thinking...

JMO - Mariota has got a long, hard climb ahead of him to become an NFL Caliber QB. His throws both in traffic and more than 10 yards down the field leave a lot to be desired. Especially for someone to be taken in the top 10 (if the hype is real) (so go ahead Philly )

This ^^ Not even a debate really. And someone compared OJ to Demarco friggin Murray????

WTF?

No way is Harvin a better #2 than Woods. More like #3 and will run a lot of Jet sweep action, especially if EJ is the QB

Well said

No. All the relevant concerned parties feel like the 2 sides are very close to a new deal.

Don't see any logic to the idea. Nope - not gonna happen. (Would be more than shocked if it did).

Thats great but did you believe all those things when you SAW the man play in college ( about Clausen). I sure didn't see it, I do see it in Winston. I don't know if he'll even be a "good" starter but I'm quite confident he'll be far more relevant than Clauson ever was.

I think with confidence that Winston will be a much, much better QB than Clauson ever dreamed of being. He reads the whole field, has very good ball placement, and keeps his eyes down field. His distractions may get to him, but I'd take that bet all day long that he'll fair much better than Clauson.

WHAT???? Seriously about the D? This D is certainly better than NE (just won the bowl). Along with many of the recent Super Bowl winners not named Seahawks or Ravens

Gotcha

The level of ignorance in the musical realm is often staggering, but I've come to expect that in the fast paced, dumb it down world we live in. All you can do is try to enlighten a few along the way who are willing to listen.

Saying you don't like them is certainly reasonable. Saying the Allman Bros suck ( whether you like them or not ) isn't going to enhance any of your points about music amongst reasonable folk.

This ^^^^ The "proven" analytics is not actually proven... It's results are looked at in a vacuum and are not NECESSARILY valid.

Huge props to these guys!

Threads like this remind me of the hate portion of my love/hate relationship with this board. Watkins is a WR stud in every imaginable way. Just wait til we see him (hopefully) with a competent Qb. AND **** just wait to the teams with the other Wr's we didnt pick arent often down in a game by 20 points and throwing up gift 9 routes in garbage time (Not talking about OBJ). But OH NO we missed out on the next Andrew Luck with our 19th overall pick we woulda had in round 1 this year! Wwwaaaahhhh...