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I call him the pukey eyeroller (its way more expansive than the Coleman discussion) Its whatever though ... To each their own

I think all he was trying to point out (and he is right) is that the Bills picks included at least 4 (I think more maybe) Alpha-Dog Team Captains from the college team they were on, and that it was part of the consideration in drafting them (Beane spoke on this and validated it) due to a large turnover in team leaders lost from the Bills (Poyer, Hyde, Morse, Diggs, Trey day, etc.). I think that is a sound and logical approach by the team for this draft. As far as the WR, I wanted to move up for BTJ or stay for Legette, but the guy we took is further along in development than Legette and rates/shows well enough in lots of other areas besides 40 time (he runs faster than 4.6 per Beanes mentioned GPS on the filed results), and I'll trust the team on that not hindering him too much. We'll find out in 2 or 3 years (Like with any prospect, its not an exact science).

awful comparisons. Those comparisons are actually addressed in this cover 1 video. I'd recommend it - He's a waaay better athlete than Benjamin was and the hands and over the top abilities in tight coverage are worlds better than Gabe.

All the remaining WR's have flaws. Opinions are fun but nobody here (or amongst the teams) knows at all which guys will overcome those flaws and which won't. For that reason I hope we choose 2 WR in the next 4 picks. My preference at 33 is Mitchell, but it seems like there's still quite a few possibilities (including another trade) that would make some sense. Franklin wouldn't anger me either...

I don't think Franklin makes it to the 3rd round.

WAAAAYYY more productive than Graham, no?

No doubt on the DeJean point. I imagine he is by far the best rated player available still, but I still want a WR instead if I had my way, as irrational as it may be!

Its awesome that PFN has the 1st round filled in!

38 spots... so OVER a full round, not half a round.

People saying we helped KC are really that dense? We got equal trade value per the Rich Hill value chart and turned a 4th into a 3rd rd pick. KC would have drafted Worthy where they sat or even in the 29,30 or 31 spot. The Bills didn't want Worthy. We went all of 4 spots back.... oh no!

Yes we did in fact it was almost a dead even match. The value #’s differed by 1 point

Clowns, look at your own polls on who to take if you had your choice with the Bills staying at 28 or trading back? Worthy was what, 20% of the share? Now KC has him and we still pick 4 picks later and gained a 3rd rounder and its freakout time...smdh

down 4 spots. Plenty of WR left. We got a 3rd now. What's not to like?

It was beyond predictable that so many of you would act as if you all thought Xavier 160 lb Worthy was the next Randy Moss just as soon as KC picked him.

BPA might be a DB or Newton, yikes

Yep and he also believes momentum in sports competition to be a fairy tale, which anyone who has played organized team sports can tell you is bs.

He actually said on yesterday's show how trading way up would be the stupidest idea possible, and that math backs that up.... I disagree with him, but that's his take.

As the draft rapidly approaches, all I can say to everyone is to learn from the past. Learn from the Josh Allen selection. NONE of us know more than the teams spending thousands of man hours on these guys, not only on the field, but how these guys fit to their teams, what their mental and medical situations are, how much of a risk the teams are willing to take on a guy, etc. Also none of us INCLUDING the teams know if any of these guys will work out in the league. The pre-draft rankings you have or agree with out there probably don't come too close to matching any other team's draft board, especially as you get out of the 1st 20 prospects. Sure there are players with higher odds than others... Resist drawing your lines in the sand where you claim either "Super Bowl here we come!" or "This team is doomed and set back 5 years!" after your team's selection. You have no idea of that. The league turns over much faster than it used to in terms of rosters. Take the choices that are made and try to reason why they were, and know that a whole organization is behind the decision. There are going to be "sure thing" players who end up failing, along with RAS score 1.5 players who shine in the game. Bottom line, try to enjoy the draft.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KaesKe20/gamelog/2003/

Traded 28 plus next year's 1 and the 2 we got from the Diggs trade.

Many people are underselling XL because of what they've parroted from other people, and that's fine. I also suspect the "intellect concerns" could wrongly be tied to something as silly as him having a strong southern dialect. A one trick pony he is NOT. Watch the all-snaps video. Anyway, 1st round picks are for athletic traits and upside in my opinion. I do think LM is going to be a reliable, consistent separator and fine player and would be happy to get him as well, just not my preference. If he is part of a "double dip" at WR I'd be ecstatic. I am not one of those "this guy is great, so this other guy sucks" people that are so common on forums.

well good on the Bills if we can get enough negative talk about BTJ to have him slide closer or even all the way to 28!

I'm swinging for a home run, so I'm taking Legette.

I think most serious football fans in these type of discussions know that teams play a lot more zone now. What some here are referring to in most cases when they reference needing a WR who can beat man is our need to have players that are able to win vs the clutching and grabbing type man coverage that is legalized (unwritten rule) in the NFL playoffs every year. Credit folks like @BADOLBILZ for pointing this out many times previously. With that said it comes down to those folks wanting a type of WR that can consistently win against those tactics. After that, it comes down to trying to judge these draft prospects in that area. I am not sold that looking purely at their numbers vs man or press man in college alone are going to provide those complete answers. Sometimes its a little more obvious than that, ie. some athleticism/size combinations just win more easily vs those tactics.

Nailed it!