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Would you be happy if we go with Diggs-Davis- shakir and drafted another slot WR in rd 3 to push Shakir?

It can as long as we don’t draft cody ford in rd 2, Spencer brown rd 3 and Tommy Doyle rd 3. Beane has done nothing in the draft to suggest he can fix the line in rd 2-4.

I’d really like to have him back too. He’s my favorite player on the defense since we signed him. loved watching him play at oregon state. Just not sure he’ll come back at a discount. He’s made a good amount of money for an everyday Joe, but not for an NFL all pro. I just think he’ll chase the biggest bag or join a rival that offers more than us. I hope I’m wrong

Agreed. He’s super butt hurt and Would love to stick it to us if we won’t pay him. And that would be terrible. That Miami D is gonna be legit next year Imo

Or with the last pick in the first round. Wright to KC is my prediction. Makes too much sense.

My MVS comment has nothing to do with being and “elite” talent. You said that the talent divide isn’t as much as people say. I mentioned their WRs to compare them to ours. Their playmakers are clearly better and their OL is one of the best in the league and includes elite talent. Our OL was one of the worst. There are statistics to be found to prove almost any point someone is trying to make, regardless of how off base it is. The stats that you posted try to minimize the effectiveness of the Philly pass rush is proof of that. Reddick, Graham and Hargrave were all top 15 in pass rush grades. Josh sweat was 8th in the league among edge rushers with 13 sacks, his pff grade was an elite 86. You can find stats to show that their pass rush was overrated…..just as easily as I found stats to the contrary. the comment about us winning the SB if we had Reid in co, could be…..but our OL wasn’t much better than the OL Reid had vs TB when Mahomes was eaten alive.

Right. Elite talen— we have Diggs. That’s all. the entire KC OL minus their RT is going to or already is getting paid mega millions. They have some elite talent on offense line ….because they paid for it (thuney + Orlando) and drafted it (creed). Smith is very good (but not elite atm, but he’ll get paid like it). We have 1 WR. That’s it. Kelce and Diggs are a wash- juju+ MVS + toney >> Knox, Davis and anyone else we found on the street. They have better weapons- they have a MUCH better OL regardless of any stats you want to find Put their OL in front of Josh, with KC weapons and Andy Reid calling plays— instead of a rookie play caller. Spags instead of one of the most passive DCs I can remember….. You likely win super bowls. where did I say our OL is the worst in league history? You’re not supposed to say anything to that….:because I didn’t say that. Maybe this is one of the problems with your posts and why I had you on ignore most of the season. Idk….talent around him = supporting cast imo. No big deal, I hear ya

He didn’t mention weaponry in the post you quoted. Maybe he did elsewhere and if so, apologies. He said talent level. i agree that Dorsey (and Allen’s injury) contributed to the offensive decline in the 2nd half of the season……but I think that we would’ve steamrolled some teams if we had KCs OL. The talent differential along the OL was massive. KC and Philly had 2 of the 3 best OLs in the league (Detroit being the other in the mix) if not the top 2.

Did you watch the KC OLine play against the Philly D that had 70 sacks this year? LT, LG, C and RG are all better than every player not named Diggs. We have one of the worst OLs in the league they have one of the best. Then add Kelce - then add Andy Reid. Mahomes was working with a LOT more than allen. That is a fact. “Elite playmakers”? Not so much. “Elite supporting cast”? absofrickinlutely. There’s a wide talent divide when you take away- von, Hyde, daquan Jones, Hamlin, crowder and a close to useless Poyer. Injuries are part of the game, but some teams can’t overcome them. How many all pros were the chiefs missing? McD- Dorsey- Frazier Vs Reid- Bienemy- Spags? Our coaches were totally outclassed by Taylor and Anarumo

Paris Johnson or Skoronski. I still haven’t watched much of the OL, not sure which one is better but Johnson looks to have the higher upside. I’d go with him.

I think he’s worth the money….as long as he’s utilized correctly. Another instance in which the GM and the coaching staff haven’t been on the same page. His production increased as the year went on and I hope that that continues. He’s really become a solid blocker and reliable in the pass game as well.

I bet he would’ve knocked down the pass on 4th and 18

I would trade one of everyone on D not named Rousseau or Milano.

Good post. I’m impressed 😉

Good. He’s a great kid and has all the tools to be special. But he’s just very good. Considering the state of our OL and playmakers, I’d rather invest that money into the offense and replace him with a cheaper option

@YoloinOhio hope all is well brother!!!

From what I’ve watched- -he has elite vision, which is the most underrated attribute of RBs imo. -for a man of his size and strength, his agility and ability it tight quarters might be the best I’ve ever seen. - close to elite contact balance. -maybe not “elite” elusiveness and explosion, but it’s close - very good receiver and in pass protection I bet he runs a sub 4.5 40. he’s special- top 5 player in the draft regardless of position imo. that said- i’d much rather have a WR or an OL.

Yeah, we could’ve drafted another Cody ford and Spencer brown had we not taken motor and moss! 😘

That was the case in 2022. Partly due to the OC. Partly due to limited OL and WR units. We definitely have a lot of work to do.

My point is: lots of QB would take a step back playing under similar circumstances. There were several factors that contributed to his “regression” or whatever people are saying. He had a lame duck OC Lombardi. A lame duck HC. Zero pass protection. Zero run game. He broke a rib in week 1. He had a torn labrum. Lost his best OL for the season and his 2nd best OL for a handful of games. Lost his go to WR for over half the year. Lost his #2 WR for a handful of games.

He also lost his only great OL for the season early on. Slater was a huge loss. Allen missed most of the season. Imagine if Dawkins and Gabe missed the same time? And gabe isn’t nearly as good as Allen. I don’t think Herbert has earned the right to be ranked ahead of Allen yet. Just like Allen hadn’t earned the right to be ranked ahead of Mahomes prior to this year…. Yet many did.

This is your point. Thanks for stating it. nothing else to see here. /endthread

And the idiots choose Gannon. Big shock

I’ve watched enough football to know: -that there are different levels of egregiousness when committing penalties. when there isn’t one defensive holding/dpi penalty thrown all game, they were clearly letting them get away with the less egregious infractions. That was a less egregious infraction. -keeping it consistent is the only thing teams and fans care about. If they would have kept it consistent, they wouldn’t have thrown a flag. we’ve seen them NOT throw flags on MUCH more egregious holds.

This just means that the cards will hire the NFC guy and keep the afc stronger