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Manu was great- I don’t disagree. A better player than Draymond. But Draymond will be in. I have no doubt. I disagree. End

He wasn’t a pure defensive guy. He was a tremendous passer. He also averaged over 1.25 3’s per playoff game. He wasn’t a great shooter by any means, but he hit clutch shots. He was a key to 4 championships and a dynasty. Without him, they probably win none. I watched every game over those years (as Harrison Barnes was my guy). His defense and leadership in crunch time crucial to them winning titles. Tony Parker and Manu are in the HoF because they were instrumental in winning championships. draymond will be in.

I watched it when it was released and I couldn’t disagree more about newton being a fun listen. I found him painful to listen too. I’ve always been a fan of him, but he’s trying too hard

No- What I’m saying is- wait and see. Listing other players accomplishments or failures as proof that a player will have success or not proves nothing. Keons success (or lack thereof) will be determined by Keon. Not by players of the past. He can become a star. He can flop and be out of the league by the time his rookie contract is up….but that’s on him. Not examples of the past

Davante Adams had 38 catches for 446 and 3 TDs. Antonio brown 16-167-1 Chris Godwin 33-535-1 Reggie Wayne -34 575- 3 steve smith- 29-414-0 Tyreek Hill 61-593-6 isaax Bruce, Terrell Owens and Emmanuel sanders all failed to reach 525 yards. There are a lot of examples for both sides of the argument. Some of us ignore the fact that one (or several) persons success or failures doesn’t dictate another’s future.

5 time first team defense. 4 time 2nd team defense. 4 time all star. 4 time nba champion. 1x defensive player of the year. 6’7 with the ability to defend centers and every other position Tremendous facilitator. He WILL be in the Hall of Fame. There’s snow doubt in my mind. Did I say there would be? No. Put words in my mouth. You said NEVER. I said you have no clue what you’re talking about. So you don’t like that teams realized that it was much more difficult to defend a team that has 4 3 pointer shooters on the court at the same times. Spread the d out, penetrate, kick and rotate the ball til it gets an open shot. I get it. It’s not for everyone. I hate the flopping as much as anyone. It sucks. Yes- it’s a different game now. That has nothing to do with the added skill and athleticism of the players. The skill and athleticism is at an all time high. Old school fundamentals have been replaced with new fundamentals to match the new game that’s being played. If you can’t play D nowadays, you can’t play. Defense is being played…. Teams are a lot more difficult to defend due to the rules changing and the evolution of the 3 point shot. OKC plays great defense and they may win the title with one super star and 1 star (yes, Jalin Williams is a star in the making and he also plays great D) because of how they play team defense. you don’t like it. Totally acceptable. I don’t like it as much as I used to either, but I can still watch the game (I watch nba, college, BIG3 and G-league) and see how the skill level is much greater now than it was in the 80’s. These kids play WAY more ball nowadays and have much higher levels of training and coaching available to them. And it shows.

As an outside WR who makes his living deep has been the 3rd and 4th option with bum QBs. He can’t throw it to himself. Ability isn’t always measured in stats and 40 times

And even with bad tape, he was on pace for around 1000 yards as a 21 year old rookie. His yards and big plays were mostly all him too. The scramble drill big play vs Detroit was mostly Josh, but Coleman was still got open- even being so slow. Crazy how many people are writing him off solely because of his 40 time. Route running can improve and I think we’ll see that he’s improved

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You seem to love hammering an impressive rookie that got hurt and struggled afterwards. He’s made plays everywhere he’s been. you wouldn’t like to have Alec Pierce on the team? He’s back.

And he was good before the injury. Made some big time plays. Almost 20 yards per catch led the league as a slow rookie. 5th in yard per target and 7th in yards after contact among WRs. Imagine that. not sure why the heavy emphasis on his play after getting injured while not mentioning that he was impressing prior to the injury. New season- no injury- put in work. He’s going to be a solid weapon. Is he going to be “the WR1 that we need” according to so many? Probably not. A good WR2- I think so but we’ll see.

It was Kincaid prior to last seasons disappointing series of events. He could be my favorite but I’m still a little sour. Keons personality has won me over. He kills it in his interviews and has been saying ALL the right things and seems as if he’s been putting in the work this offseason. He’s up there. Shakir’s RAC ability gets me the most hyped. Benford is the quintessential pro. No talk- all action. Just stay healthy in the playoffs vs the chiefs ffs 🤦🏻‍♂️ Favorite non starter- Ty Johnson

I hate to say this, the traditions and rivalries are going to be a thing of the past now that kids can portal out and take the biggest pay day on a year to year basis. I’m happy they are getting paid. The kids deserve it imo…. But i think it will be at the expense of rivalries and tradition at the higher levels of college basketball. I’ve been a die hard UNC fan since Worthy beat Ewing in the 82 title game. Watching the players develop over the years while playing against the same players on the other acc teams was what I enjoyed the most. The rivalries were a school thing….but the players were the ones that made the rivalries so great. It was so fun to hate on Ferry, Laettner, Hurley, Jwill, Reddick and Woj. Nowadays, it seems as if 1 out of 2 great players will either go pro after one year or portal out to the highest bidder. I really hope that I’m wrong for the sake of one of my favorite past times, but the money changes everything.

You have a strange view of this. Yes- Klay and draymond will both be in the HoF. I promise. Who cares if players are transient? Does that mean they aren’t as good? It means that players have more options and more control of their futures. The great players can go where they want and play with whom they want to play with for the most part. It’s just difficult to fit 3 max contracts under the cap unless you can draft/acquire bird rights to 1 or 2 of them. but again- saying that there never be another finals with 6 HoFs is just a reckless claim and will prove incorrect. Who cares if Durant hasn’t won since leaving Gs? Does it make him any less great? He’s also 36 years old and still playing very good basketball. Barkley, and Malone never won one and both tried to latch on to already built teams in order to get themselves one because they couldn’t win one. Are you saying Durant wasn’t great because he joined a super team to win a title? The thunder were competing against 3 dynasties in the warriors, heat and spurs for every year. What does this have to do with the talent level in the nba? Nothing please provide some insight as to how the league rosters, top to bottom, is lesser now than it used to be. ai sees it differently and provides examples I’ve already given you: Yes, the consensus is that the overall talent level in the NBA is higher today than it was in the 1980s. This is due to a combination of factors, including improved training methods, a larger global talent pool, and a game that emphasizes different skills. Here's a more detailed breakdown: Improved Training and Conditioning: Modern NBA players benefit from advanced training techniques, nutrition, and access to better facilities. This leads to players being bigger, faster, and more athletic than their 1980s counterparts. Global Talent Pool: The NBA has become a truly international league, with players from all over the world showcasing their skills. This expands the talent pool and brings in players with unique backgrounds and skill sets. Evolution of the Game: The modern NBA game emphasizes skills like three-point shooting, ball-handling, and passing, which are more prevalent today. While some may argue that certain aspects of the game were more physical in the 80s, the current game requires a broader range of skills from players. Role Players: The skill level of players in the bottom half of the league is significantly higher today. Role players in the 1980s often lacked the versatility and shooting ability of today's role players. Scoring Inflation: While some argue that the increased scoring is due to rule changes and a more favorable offensive environment, it also suggests that players are more skilled at putting the ball in the basket. Comparison to the 1980s: While the 1980s were a fantastic era for the NBA, with legendary players like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Michael Jordan, the game has evolved. Today's players are not just skilled in one area, but are versatile and able to contribute in many different ways.

You’re not talking about talent top to bottom- you’re talking about the top. Not the bottom. You’re likely talking about basketball fundamentals, not skill and athleticism. The fundamentals have changed as rules have changed and the 3pt shot has evolved and has changed the way teams have to defend. It’s a different game. pretty much every finals from 2010-2017 had 6 HoFers. Maybe a couple had 5. None had less than 5. The 2017 warriors had 4 in their starting lineup. the salary cap was introduced in 84 iirc. That was another reason those lakers and Celtics teams had such great rivalries. I’m very confidant that the finals will again include 6 HoFers.

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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjWKS6GT/ loved this. This is part of why I think he’s going to be a success as a Bill. If he really does get it, like I think he does, it will be a big reason why. Processing the journey combined with work ethic to overcome and correct

I bet Randy Moss was missing jumpers 😉

Nowadays….. we’re talking about 3 decades ago. Youth ball is on a completely different level in 2024 than it was is 1994. agree to disagree. Highly unlikely Moss would’ve been a pro imo

Seriously? The best programs, much better than OSU, have offered hundreds of scholarships to 6’4 players that can’t shoot. That’s a guarantee

He wasn’t even playing man- he was standing in the middle of a zone in every highlight I’ve seen. During a time in which there was no defensive 3 seconds. He did all this as an elite athletes playing against 99.9% non elite athletes in a WV HS sure- he could’ve- maybe Angel Reese will become a 3 point shooting PG too. She’s a great athlete- she just needs to practice. I hear what you’re saying- but the odds would’ve been insanely stacked against him. Lots of things “could have happened”. This is one of 999999999999999999999 things that could’ve happened.

He rarely, if ever shot J’s. He rarely, if ever, dribbled more than 2 times going to the rack. He was 6’4 and made a living in the paint. Doing this at a time where physical play was allowed. Yes, elite athlete and maybe he could’ve learned how to shoot and dribble. Very slim chance imo. Nothing that he did well in HS to win player of the year translated to the nba except dunking- while being on the receiving end of one of the best passers most fans have ever seen.

Jwill is also his boy. No reason for him to say the opposite. Rodrick Rhodes was also 6’6 and much more physical than Moss. He couldn’t shoot the rock which ended his nba dream after 3 years of riding the pine. Moss played vs terrible comp and was running around dunking on and swatting 6’3 power forwards and stealing the ball from 5’8 guards. He was a 6’4 Center known for playing great interior d (vs bad competition) and finishing in transition. His entire game revolved around being above the rim. No handles. Zero jumper.

You’re underestimating the talent in today’s nba. Just because teams have less superstars now doesn’t have any affect on the talent level on the roster. 95% of the the best teams in the 80’s and 90’s had 2 terrible pros on them. Look at the lakers teams from 80-86- they have 3-4 of them

“have all been injured”. Josh Allen has been injured too. Literally every athlete ever has been injured. None of those guys you’ve mentioned have comparable injury history to Alexander. Not even close. I never argued the contrary.