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17 x 250 = 4250. I think that is the floor for Josh's passing yards this season. I'm guessing he'll wind up around 4600. Unlike others, I don't see the Bills trying to run more. They want to be able to run when they need to, but everyone knows you score through the passing game.

It will be interesting, no doubt. As usual, the optimists are looking for the silver lining, the pessimists are predicting failure, and the middle-grounders are playing the wait-and-see game. It is going to be extremely important for the Bills to avoid a slow start, and that worries me considering we will have two new starters at safety and an almost entirely new WR room. I’m expecting the Kincaid/Shakir/Cook show to dominate the game plan early on.

Fair points.

21. Jordan Poyer I'd go with Micah Hyde but that's just me...

It's not a "weird" response, it's the truth. We were a play away from beating KC twice -- in the playoffs. We've also had ridiculously bad luck -- in particular last year with all of the injuries on D. It's a message board, I get it, and everyone wants to pontificate. I just also realize that nothing anyone writes on this board means a damn thing outside of the entertainment value. Carry on and Go Bills!

37. George Wilson 36.

Yes, totally valid criticism of Beane. All he has done is build a roster than has won four consecutive AFCE titles with two nail-biter losses to KC in the playoffs. Blow the whole thing up. We need guys Pete Prisco thinks are stars!

Agree. The Fins got worse on defense, and while their video game offense will put up numbers in the regular season they are not better than they were a year ago. With competent quarterbacking the Jets are the threat.

It’s definitely the doldrums of the offseason when we get a$$clown threads like these. OP got pwned.

I'm expecting 7 from each of those guys so that puts us on the over.

If anyone can get me a ticket for Sunday July 28 I would sincerely appreciate it! I will be in town coincidentally and it would be my first TC visit since the Fredonia days!

I think you are underrating Carr. Under the right circumstances worse QBs than Derek Carr have won Super Bowls. The Jets have a dominant defense and good skill position players.

Of course.

Do you think the QB makes the WR or vice-versa? If you're going to talk about "bottom 5 WR rooms" I think it's relevant to know who was throwing them the ball.

Who were their QBs? Kinda relevant, don't you think?

He's dropping everything, and doing it very slowly.

The Jests don't have to "sell tickets" -- they're the Jests, a NYC-market franchise that will always be hyped. If they had signed Carr they would have almost certainly made the playoffs last year. The Rodgers signing was anything but smart.

I’m really concerned that a lot of fans are really concerned about guys running around in helmets and sweatpants in June trying to learn an offense and get familiar with each other. It’s clear that there is a direct correlation between OTAs and regular season results…right? The Bills have even looked crappy in preseason over the past few seasons. There’s very little we as fans can take from this stuff until the real games begin. Do I want to hear about guys dropping passes? Of course not. But I’m certainly not going to “worry” about it until I know who’s even on the final roster. Carry on.

This is a very easy argument to analyze. Turnovers vs. total points responsible for (all offensive TDs and FGs - leave out D/ST TDs). Simple. Compare that ratio to the other QBs and tell me what you come up with.

This board is consistent. The “we suck at WR” crowd: “most consistent” means the other guys suck and we’re doomed. The “we’ll be ok at WR” crowd: “most consistent” means a pleasant surprise coming from a talented but previously inconsistent player. You do you, Wallers…I’ll wait to see how guys look when they’re wearing pads and playing real snaps.

Obviously more pressure against Mahomes in the playoffs will help. That’s nothing earth-shattering or enlightening. What’s funny is how people look at a couple of 3-point playoff losses as some sign the Bills are not on the Chiefs’ level. The Bills are right there; the breaks just haven’t gone our way. Those are two playoff games that were literally a play away from going differently. With the organization Buffalo has I do expect things to “even out” with the Chiefs over the course of the Allen vs. Mahomes/McD vs. Reid era.

On any given play the Bills have 5 “skill” options in addition to Josh. We can disagree, but I think choosing among Kincaid, Samuel, Shakir, Coleman, Knox, Cook, Ray Davis, and (MVS or Hollins or Claypool) gives the Bills plenty of ways to stress the defense.

We can agree to disagree. Brady was thrust into a situation in which he had to figure out a way to deal with a declining, pouty Diggs and while Josh was “unleashed” we also saw a remarkable uptick from Shakir in big moments and effective use of the RBs and Kincaid. Nobody wants to give this season a chance; you’re all just looking at names on paper. You accuse me of having no context but who didn’t expect more from Davis after that breakout playoff game? His disappearance belongs on a TV missing persons show. I’m the guy who is willing to “wait and see” rather than declaring doom prematurely. You know-it-alls hate people like me who can analyze a situation logically but look for optimism rather than pessimism over something we can’t control. I’m excited about this season. Go Bills.

Sorry, I still don't see the huge fuss. They lost Diggs -- who was a shell of himself down the stretch and in the playoffs and was clearly causing locker room tension. They lost Davis, who was so inconsistent you could never count on him. They lost Harty and Sherfield, who did nothing (but thanks for that PR Deonte). Shakir blossomed late last year and one can only expect that to continue. Kincaid was everything we hoped and enters year two without having to learn the NFL game. Samuel is an above average WR who has never played with a decent QB. Coleman wasn't the guy "everybody" wanted but he's hardly what I would call a "project." Cook had a breakout season. Ray Davis looks like he could immediately contribute in the passing game. And Knox is Knox -- certainly fine as a 4th or 5th weapon, and can create mismatches. With Samuel and Shakir you have speed. With Coleman and (Hollins or Claypool or MVS) you have size. With Kincaid you have an emerging star. And, as noted in this thread, the overall depth at WR1-6 is better than it was last year. Who cares that none of the current WRs have had a 900-yard season? How have their situations changed this year? What is different than before? For nearly all of them it's pretty significant -- most notably playing with an all-world QB (except for MVS). Everyone hung up on there being no "true" WR1 is just already looking for excuses before the season even begins -- the "on paper" crowd. I'll lean towards potential and different circumstances leading to solid results. I expect the Bills passing game to be dangerous and difficult to defend, with a legitimate go-to option in Kincaid.