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Detroit is one of the (few) NFL teams with a significantly worse history than us. Despite being on of the league's oldest teams, they have never even MADE a Super Bowl. Much less won it. I would also group Cleveland, Arizona, the Los Angeles Chargers, Cincinnati, Atlanta and Tennessee/Houston as franchises who have accomplished far less than Buffalo... at least during the Super Bowl era. The NY Jets have done almost nothing outside of Super Bowl III, but at least they won a championship.

I think you are missing my point. Yes. Both Manuel and Allen were drafted with bad problems in their throwing mechanics, and the HOPE we could fix their accuracy problems. Coming out of college, there were a lot of similarities in that department. As time went along, it became clear that Manuel's problem was too deep rooted to fix. His throwing motion was already set, and it wasn't something he could re-learn from the ground-up. In contrast, we are already seeing improvements in Allen that NEVER happened with our last 1st Round QB. From college, to the Senior Bowl, to training camp/preseason, to Week 2, to now. There is growth. Yes, he's still missing lots of throws. But the GOOD throws are there multiple times each week. Which tells you he CAN get better. What happens from here is anyone's guess. Maybe Allen hits a wall. But maybe he continues to improve.

Most coaches in this league are average. They aren't brilliant strategists or motivators. They have a system, scheme and style. And if their team is full of talented football players who fit into the puzzle, they will be successful. If their team is full of bad players or poor fits, they will fail. Rex Ryan did not fail here because he was a bad coach. He failed here because his defensive scheme did not fit the talent, he had a mediocre/below average QB, he did not see eye-to-eye with the GM and his laid-back style was a poor fit for the rest of this organization. I doubt Sean McDermott is a significantly better or worse coach than Ryan. He's just different. His success will not be dependent on whether he is an offensive or defensive coach. It will not depend on whether he is conservative or aggressive. It will not depend on his personality in press conferences, how much he uses the word "process" or how often he claps during games. At the end of the day, his success will depend on whether Josh Allen becomes a franchise quarterback, and whether Brandon Beane can consistently find talent that fits his scheme and vision. End of story. It's fine to debate. But calling for a coaches head based on whether he kicked a field goal, punted or went for it on 4th down during a tie-game is ridiculous. There was sound reasoning for all three options.

I mentioned this in a different thread, but I'll say it again. When Josh Allen sets his feet and steps into his throws, his passes are usually right on the money. His misses (and no doubt there are more than what is ideal) are usually due to him rushing, failing to re-set his feet, relying on just his arm to wing it, etc., etc. The key with making Allen more accurate is not overhauling his throwing motion or footwork. It's just getting him to be more consistent in doing it right. This is MUCH DIFFERENT than someone like EJ Manuel, who never displayed good QB mechanics and always seemed to just be throwing the ball in the receiver's "general direction." My guess is that Manuel never really learned how to be a Quarterback, and just needed too much work by the time he reached the NFL.

He was down after getting hit earlier in the game. That does not necessarily mean he was "INJURED" and INCAPABLE of making a field goal, or that it had anything to do with him missing. In fact, Hauschka was able to kickoff twice after halftime (which is a lot farther than a field goal) and was able to make a field goal later in the game. Why did his terrible injury not stop him on those plays? The job of the coach is to TRUST the team doctors and TRUST his players to let him know when they are unable to play. McDermott is trying to win games, and has numerous choices to make during every game. A decision is not WRONG just because YOU don't like it. A decision is not WRONG just because the play isn't successful. Fans second-guessing coaching decisions is one of the worst parts of professional sports. Sean Payton became a coaching genius after the Super Bowl onside kick. But what happens if the Saints kicker shanks it? Or the Colts recover? Or one of his players jumps offside? It was a play that could have gone either way. The same with Pete Carroll, who has been endlessly criticized for not running Marshawn Lynch in the Super Bowl. But what about Russell Wilson's responsibility to not throw the ball directly into traffic? How does Carroll's legacy change if Malcolm Butler is a split-second slower in reacting?

I'm not sure if our receivers make the difference yesterday. But I certainly believe Clay should have caught the pass in Miami, which would have been a win.

How do you know that Hauschka's injury had anything to do with the miss? The idea that "McDermott knew" he was sending out an injured kicker is very key to your argument. But it's nothing more than fan speculation from the living room. Maybe Hauschka and the doctors said he was fine. In which case, he's usually pretty good from 50+ yard kicks. The argument against PUNTING is that you have the chance to take the lead, halfway through the 4th Quarter. I absolutely hate when fans criticize coaches for gameday decisions like these. There is no "clear" right and wrong... until after the play is done and everyone has the benefit of hindsight. So many things go into coaching a football team. But fans boil the coaches performance down to whether the guy was conservative/aggressive enough in a certain situation, whether they punted or went for it, when they decide to throw challenge flags, etc, etc. The truth is, most fans are clueless and are just looking for a scapegoat to blame.

Large schematic changes are difficult to make from week-to-week. Small strategic adjustments aren't hard (at least they shouldn't be for a decent coaching staff). The best way to defend Tyrod was to have the edge defenders play contain (instead of going with a full pass rush). This forced Tyrod to stay in the pocket and throw, instead of moving around where he was most comfortable. Don't get me wrong. Teams will adjust to Allen's current play, and I wouldn't expect 100-yard rushing games to become the weekly norm. Quarterbacks cannot have consistent/long-term success in this league without being able to pass. That's why I'm putting Allen's rushing performance to the side, and trying to judge his progress on the passing side alone. I think it's pretty clear to see the improvements he's made in that area since earlier in the season.

Look at the quote in context. He's not saying ball security isn't important to him. He's saying ball security was not the first thing on his mind during that particular fumble, and he was thinking more about making a play.

I don't really care about GREAT catches. I am more concerned about the constant DROPS. Forget making the highlight play. Just make the easy ones, and this team improves by leaps and bounds.

It usually doesn't take a full season for Defensive Coordinators to adjust. Tyrod Taylor had plenty of bad games with us in that first year. He never really got better. He never really got worse. He was just up-and-down, depending on how effective defenses were at keeping him in the pocket. One strategy I saw the Jets using yesterday (mostly in the second half) was using a spy, but then sending him on a delayed blitz. It seemed that Allen was less willing to take off with defenders running at him, as opposed to standing flat-footed a few yards away. It will be interesting to see if the Lions employ a similar tactic. No doubt, Allen will eventually need to be able to beat teams with his arm.

There are certain throws an NFL quarterback needs to make, in order to be successful. Early in the season, Josh Allen was making those throws occasionally. Rare flashes that happened maybe 1-2 times per game. Over the last 3 weeks, Allen has been making those throws frequently. We are seeing those nice passes 5-10 times per game. The key now, is getting Allen to make those throws more consistently. Cut down on the handful of inaccurate misses. Learn when to throw the ball away, instead of heaving a terrible pass into traffic. Identify the check-downs, and don't always go for the big play. For all the WHINERS about Allen's completion percentage... He went 18-36 on Sunday (50 percent). If Clay and Jones don't drop those easy catches, he's up to 55 percent. Two more completions, and he's already above 61 percent. THAT'S IT. Upgrade his O-Line protection in the offseason, so he's not rushing and scrambling on every play. With better blocking from the front-five, Daboll can also send out the RBs and TEs for easy check-down passes (which he can't do now, because they need to help block).

To me, it's hilarious that "McDermott's awful conservative approach" was the WHOLE POINT of this thread. He's supposedly a TERRIBLE coach, because he refuses to attack and be aggressive. Yet, here is an example of the Bills aggressively going for the touchdown INSTEAD of getting the easy first down... And apparently, that was ALSO a bad call by this coaching staff.

I get so tired of head coaches being second-guessed for everything. The Bills had a chance to the lead with less than 8 minutes left in the 4th Quarter, during a tie-game. The option was his kicker (who is one of the league's best) to hit from 56 --- or -- 4th and 8 with a rookie QB and inconsistent offense. His defense had been playing pretty well, so he had plenty of confidence they could stop the Jets from mounting another scoring drive. If the Bills went for it on 4th and then DID NOT make it, people would be screaming how McDermott should have been smart and just taken the points in that situation.

Most players say the biggest jump is between Year 1 and Year 2. However, some players (Shaq Lawson for example) are late bloomers and take a little bit longer. I would say that with MOST players, you can tell what kind of NFL player they will be by the middle of Year 3. Also, I would strongly contest that Tremaine Edmunds has made "minimal progress" since the season began. Back in the Baltimore and San Diego games, he was getting absolutely targeted/picked on - and was a total liability in coverage. That isn't happening any more. Yes, he's making mistakes in gap assignments and doesn't always shed downfield blocks on running plays. But that happens to every Pro-Bowl linebacker in the league. Overall, he's been a solid player as a rookie, with room to grow into something better.

Why can't you teach instincts? It's basically just reading a play, recognizing what is happening quickly and then reacting. There is absolutely no reason that with on-field experience, film study and proper coaching, that Tremaine Edmunds cannot improve in this area. It's like the people that say ACCURACY cannot be taught. Well, except that accuracy usually comes down to mechanics and footwork - and there are literally hundreds of experts employed by college and NFL teams to help QBs improve in these areas. And there are literally hundreds of NFL quarterbacks (including veterans) who say they have been able to improve their accuracy over the years.

The biggest reason young players improve in Years 1, 2, etc. is experience. Virtually every NFL player (even the ones who play GREAT as rookies) talks about how difficult it is to process the difference from college to the pros. It takes time for the game to slow-down. This is not a difficult concept. Out of all the things that confuse/baffle me about this message board... This may be the most puzzling. I just can't understand how football fans who watch this sport ALL THE TIME, are determined to judge young players as busts as ROOKIES. People were saying the same thing last year about Zay Jones. They are saying the same thing about Josh Allen this year. Seriously. Do people just sit on their couches at home, and after 13 games say "Well, I guess that Edmunds guy is never going to get it." Honestly, it's ridiculous.

They are still a good defense. But probably not as good as they appeared earlier in the season. With the offense finally putting up points, teams aren't playing as conservative against our defense. They are opening things up and attacking a little bit more. And we are getting exposed in several different areas. - Our linebackers (Milano and Edmunds) are often caught in the wrong gaps or getting swallowed up in the run game. I known many people think we need to move Edmunds to the outside, but don't forget that he's only 20-years-old and has a very large frame. Don't be surprised if the coaches get him to put some weight on in the offseason, to help with shedding blocks. And hopefully the instincts improve with time. - The pass rush is inconsistent. I find this to be the case with 95% of teams around the league. They get lots of pressure one week, but can't the next week. Since Leslie Frasier is not the type of guy who likes dialing up blitzes, that means we probably need some more help on the D-Line. Shaq Lawson, Trent Murphy, Harrison Phillips and Jordan Phillips are all good players and valuable to our rotation. But none are great at getting QB pressure. Kyle Williams was that guy for a long time, but he's not consistent anymore. If we get a Top 3-5 pick, don't be surprised if we go DT. - Behind Tre'Davious White, our play at cornerback has ranged from mediocre to awful. I like Taron Johnson in the slot, but we need another starting outside CB and some better depth. We've tried multiple guys here, but nobody has been impressive.

When people start getting excited about Josh Allen's performance Sunday, the assumption is that we are talking about his rushing totals. But for me, the encouraging part is his growth in the passing game. Forget all the scrambles. Look at his first touchdown throw to Zay Jones. Look at his second touchdown throw to Zay Jones. Look at what SHOULD HAVE been a touchdown throw to Kelvin Benjamin (but he predictably dropped it). Look at the 3rd Down sideline pass from out of his endzone. Look at that touch pass to Patrick DiMarco down the sidelines. Heck... Even look at the final play of the game. Yes, it was a little bit short. But consider how much skill it took to even get the throw off - and realize it was a fingertip from being one of the most amazing plays the NFL has seen all year. How many guys have the scrambling ability AND arm to make that play? Maybe Rodgers, Newton and Mahomes?

I always try to be realistic. When they drafted Josh Allen, I honestly was disappointed. After reviewing almost all of the games from his senior year, I just felt like he had too much to improve on. With all the "sure thing" quarterbacks that fail in this league, why draft such a huge project - especially when a more NFL-ready QB was staring them right in the face (Josh Rosen). Since training camp, I have closely followed Allen's progress. I read all the training camp reports I could find. I watched every preseason snap. I've read up on All-22 Reviews during the season, and gone back after the games to re-watch all of his plays. I'm very aware that Allen's rushing ability will only get him so far. He needs to become a good NFL passer to ultimately be successful. So every time he breaks out a 25-yard scramble, I'm excited for the team, but I take it with a grain of salt when considering his development. With that said... I think the potential we see in Allen's passing ability and his growth over the last 3-4 months has been very apparent. From pocket presence, to reading the defense, to release time, to accuracy, etc. He is improving. Now he's obviously still got a ways to go, and if the growth stops here - he will ultimately flame-out as a long-term starter in this league. No doubt. But at the same time, the improvement we are already seeing is more than we EVER got from EJ Manuel. He's already in a place that JP Losman took at least 2-3 seasons to reach. And I think his downside has already reached Tyrod Taylor/Ryan Fitzpatrick levels. Comparing Allen to the other rookie QBs around the league, you can see that all 5 guys are making similar mistakes. It's just too early to tell about any of them. The encouraging thing about Allen is that: a) He was considered "rawer" than the other guys about 6 months ago, and has already reached about the same level, and b) His potential/ceiling is much higher.

I don't follow the Packers really close, but I do watch 5-6 of their games each season. It's hard for me to believe Mike McCarthy is THE problem after almost 13 years of being successful at that job. Seems more like a case of the head coach being the scapegoat. In one sense, the Packers front office has it REALLY easy. They have possibly the NFL's best quarterback, meaning they are completely set at the most important position (and have been since about 1992). If they can build even a half-decent roster around him, they should always be in serious playoff contention. But at the same time, Aaron Rodgers counts for almost 12 percent of the team's salary cap - by himself. The Packers don't have the luxury to be big spenders in free agency, and are often forced to let young talent walk (Micah Hyde for instance) right in their prime. So even though the toughest position is already taken care of, they cannot afford lackluster drafts and really need to make sure every contract dollar counts. With that said, I don't think the Packers have drafted well over the last 3-4 years. And it's finally caught up to them. The roster around Rodgers is simply NOT good anymore. At 35 years old (and injured), he is struggling to carry it all by himself. Remember that Rodgers' game has always been about his athletic ability and arm strength, so age will factor quicker than with someone like Tom Brady or Drew Brees.

Remind me what our D-Line looked like at the end of 2017. We desperately needed help. The reason Murphy and Lotulelei are "rotational" is because we were able to ALSO add Harrison Phillips in the draft, Jordan Phillips in free agency - not to mention convincing Kyle Williams to stay another year, and getting a breakout season from Shaq Lawson. Both were good adds. Not Pro-Bowlers. But players that help make this team better. And if you don't see the improvement in our Defense this season, you simply don't understand football. Plain and simple. And for the millionth time. This rebuilding project was not about JUST 2018. It was about the long-term future of this team. If Beane had used his resources on the offensive instead, everyone would be complaining that he "ignored" the defense.

When Brandon Beane speaks, it shows how clueless many whiny-@$$ people on this board really are. He clearly sees the deficiencies in our offense. He clearly saw them last offseason. But wanting something and being able to realistically obtain them is not always the same thing. We didn't have the salary cap space or the interest from guys they wanted in Free Agency, so the money went towards the defensive holes instead. After landing Allen, the draft board just didn't make it worth reaching for offensive linemen or offensive weapons, compared to the defensive talent sitting there. Beane isn't trying to rebuild the 84 Bears. He wants a powerhouse offense that can put up 30+ points every week. But he's not going to shell-out terrible/overpriced contracts or reach in the draft, just to satisfy an impatient fanbase. He knows the way to properly build a team is by being patient and smart.

I have the same question. If the Bills kept him on the roster for 4 more games, Kelvin Benjamin becomes an unrestricted free agent. Assuming he signs a decent contract (not sure how likely that is), it factors into the compensatory pick formula.

Early in the season, I thought the issues were more related to the O-Line and poor play at QB. But as the year has gone on, I'm becoming more skeptical. There are times that he's got a lane, and the acceleration just doesn't seem to be there anymore. At 30 years old and 10 years in the NFL, we shouldn't really be surprised though.