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That's why I'm still so bummed. The stubbornness of the coaching staff. How can I look forward to next year if they will continue with this kind of conservative everything?

That's a reason we're always going to be 10-6 or 11-5 and lose quickly in the playoffs. McDermott creates a reality where there are only 2 options 1. Give it to Singletary who has x% of fumbling but who can make plays 2. Give it to Gore who has a higher probability of killing a drive but less chance of fumbling. Where are the 3rd or 4th options? Will they exist next year?

This is what makes it extra tough. The scared playcalling was obvious since the beginning of the season. And very little changed. We blew it today. I hate that we have to live with this for a full year before we get a chance to redeem ourselves. Life's too short to always wait until next year, and NFL windows are definitely too short. My optimism is directly related not just to whatever improvements come on offense next year, but if the coaching staff has the obvious epiphany. Because if we keep this up for the rest of McDermott's tenure, it doesn't matter what players we have on offense, we're going to be a perennial 1 or 2 and out playoff team.

Good for him. Everyone quit on him at one point.

Are you saying that I should keep my subjective opinion to myself because "who cares"? Whatever man, I don't think you even know the purpose of what you're saying.

What are you arguing? I said that I thought his ceiling was higher than Watson's. That is my subjective opinion that started this debate.

If you're looking for an objective answer to a subjective concept, that's what I call a dead end.

As he always does. Some fans here don't deserve it. They deserve Tyrod Taylor's heart. Or lack of.

Couldn't disagree more. Brady was an outlier, and with some shady stuff around it too I might add.

Then we're thinking of different plays.

You're right. But we also choked this game away. It's hard to look at the positives. We can go 13-3 next year, but we still need to shed the label of choker in the playoffs.

It was an intense pressure moment. Very few people on earth are good in those situations, much less who play QB. And Allen did lead us into FG range on that drive to tie. Not sure why you're hung up on this.

We had him on the ropes. I always liked Watson, and he definitely has intangibles, but I still like Allen's ceiling more. Watson has incredible weapons to throw to. We should've won.

Adrenaline move.

Let's wait on the vid then. We have different memories of it.

Learning through pain is a choice. You can learn equally through winning. Where was Brady's learning through pain? Roethlisberger's? We choked today. Coaches choked. A select few players choked.

100% great play by the DB. Duke made great catches today, including an amazing 1st down catch that was called back. I was annoyed by fans clamoring for Duke, but after the last 2 weeks, I'm really raising my eyebrow at McDermott. I thought there was a reason we didn't know about. It was pure stubbornness. Or fear of making a mistake.

In games this close, bad calls decide the game. Imagine the refs made a bad call before the Immaculate Reception, or the Tyree Catch, or the Butler pick. People like to pretend that these games are always in the team's hands. They're not. Every great team relies on the refs in crunch time to make the right call. Even the greatest dynasties would not be dynasties with those types of calls. Thought experiment: when was the last time we won a game where the other team got absolutely hosed by the referees?

And who were those men in black jumpsuits who casually walked up and told the referee what to call? Weird. Never seen that before. Didn't see them again after the game.

How many missed blocks and assignments did the Oline have today?

I can't wait for a team to take Daboll away from us and fall for his BS. As cute as we seem, we run the most inefficient offense. Singletary is used maybe half as much as he should be, Foster was misused, McKenzie was underused. The truth was, I was annoyed all year with the clamoring for Duke Williams. But after seeing him the last two games, the kid is baller. I am now convinced McDermott was just stubborn. It makes me question all the other decisions we made. For all the good we've done, Allen could've developed way more this season and we should've won the division. We CHOKED today, guys. CHOKED. And we did it with the usual suspects. Cody Ford, Frank Gore, Daboll, and Allen fumbling and taking sacks. It's a miracle we even got to OT.

This game will always bother me. Always. Because we should have won.

His hero worship was always weird. Frank Gore was NEVER considered one of the greats. He was a solid player who lasted a long time. Seeing him up there with Payton and Smith is an oddity. I get treating veterans well to encourage them to come here, but not at the expense of losing. McDermott needs to look in the mirror in the offseason. And Beane needs to stop being a pansy and spend some of his salary cap on better offensive players.

We had such a good flow going on offense. You lose 2 downs with Gore and have the clock. I defend McDermott a lot, but that is absolutely awful. In the playoffs? WTF

You can't be elite at every position. He's as good or slightly better than replacement IMO. How much he gets paid doesn't matter unless it handicaps the team's salary cap. If it doesn't, then it's a personal issue between the fan and how much money another person makes.