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Since Beane and Frazier have been together, that is the very first time a team has gotten a 1st down on a 1st and 20+ It happens. The fact that the secondary they patched together only gave up one big play is remarkable

I love TBD after a loss. It's like a preschool in the afternoon when children don't have their naps...

I hate the loss for what it was: a loss to a division opponent. Miami is a good team, but it literally took all of the injuries, the weather, the mistakes by the offense, and Miami making almost every critical play they had the opportunity to make - just to win by two points. They need to get people healthy over next few weeks. It is still early in a long season. At full strength, the Bills are the best team in the NFL. Of that I have no doubt. They will be fine.

His inexperience really showed on the Waddle reception and the TD. However, he wasn't ready to see the field and would never have come close to playing had it not been for extraordinary circumstances. I am certainly not going to judge him too harshly after one game and under those circumstances.

Agree. About as classless as it gets. I hope he hasn't suffered a serious injury and that he is back on the field soon.

I wasn't arguing for or against a challenge or implying whether it would or would not have been overturned if it was challenged. I also am not one that has a big problem with McDermott's challenges. I was originally replying to a poster who claimed it was contested at the point of the catch. It wasn't. It was, as they say, a "bang-bang" play and I have no idea what Davis, or any other player, felt about it at that moment. I only know that the replay shows me that Davis did, in fact, catch the ball, tuck it away and control it, and get both feet on the turf before he lost control. I have no idea if it would have been overturned. I do know I have seen plenty of receptions in the endzone be ruled catches that didn't show any more convincing evidence than the replays on this reception. As I said, I have no problem agreeing to disagree.

Well you are certainly welcome to your opinion. To me, he clearly had control of the ball and got both feet down before the defender knocked it loose. I have no problem agreeing to disagree.

I have watched the replay over and over myself. Here it is. The first replay after the play clearly shows Davis controlled the ball and it was not dislodged until after his second foot had already touched.

No, it is just an observation. you should probably have some general idea of what distinguishes a good thread from a bad thread if you want to continually start threads....

He did catch it and had control when his left foot touched and when his right foot touched

If we have to tell you, then maybe you should stop creating threads...

The Chargers suffered the worst loss. They were at home and the area of their team that they spent an enormous amount of resources to improve during the offseason got abused on the field and the scoreboard - and the offense performed in very Chargeresque fashion...

Josh Allen, Bills 'take it on the chin' after dominating box score in loss to Dolphins https://www.nfl.com/news/josh-allen-bills-take-it-on-the-chin-after-dominating-box-score-in-loss-to-dolph

Josh Allen, Bills 'take it on the chin' after dominating box score in loss to Dolphins https://www.nfl.com/news/josh-allen-bills-take-it-on-the-chin-after-dominating-box-score-in-loss-to-dolph

Davis did catch it cleanly and clearly had possession of the ball when his left foot comes down And when his right foot comes down - before the defender dislodges the ball

Good post. (1) Miami was playing against a team that at any given moment during the game was down 8-10 starters, (2) Josh Allen wasn't at his best, (3) The Bills' offense as a whole made critical mistake after critical mistake and left an easy 17-20 points on the field, and (4) Miami pretty much made every play they had an opportunity to make (the sack fumble, the strip of Davis, the critical throw to Waddle) and managed to score 21 pts on only two drives the entire game over 20 yds... Miami is a good team and still managed to need every bit of the above to win by 2 points. That is encouraging. And when Allen isn't at his best, he is still better than almost any other QBs at their best.

I'm certainly not going to fault him for tucking the ball away. It was a good defensive play. It happens.

@Bangarang you are correct Davis caught that ball cleanly. It wasn't contested at the catch point. Tucked it away The defender got his hand on the ball And then on Davis' hand And caused the ball to come out It was a good defensive play

Not to mention this stat that I saw in an article this morning in the Buffalo News: "It was the first time the Bills’ defense ever has given up a third-and-20 or more situation in the six years of the Sean McDermott and Leslie Frazier era, according to Buffalo News charting. Opponents had been 0-for-22 on third and 20 or more against the Bills since 2017." It happens. And yesterday it happened under extraordinary circumstances. It doesn't diminsh the job Frazier did yesterday in any way. Frazier did an excellent job.. Just an observation, but I find it interesting that some of the same posters who worried about Miami putting up 30+ points against this defense with the players missing going into the game, are now complaining about giving up one big play....

There is a segment of every fan base that sees things through rose colored glasses rationalizes just about everything to feel better about their team. Just as there is a segment of every fan base that sees everything through a veil of negativity and constantly whines. You might not want to listen to Von Miller's post game interview where he states "A loss like this is good medicine." Of course we all know he doesn't know nearly as much about football as you do...

Fear not, my friend. This team will be just fine.

Dane Jackson has been playing exceptionally well. With that said, I agree that our secondary will be ok.

I think the defense this week goes how the Dline goes. This is where I believe the investiment in the Dline and the rotation philosophy pays dividends. If they continue to get good pressure with four, it will be a longer day for Tua than what many people think. His only real strengths are getting the ball out quickly and his accuracy in the short to intermediate range. As a consequence, he does pretty well when blitzed but not so well when he faces pressure from four. Pressure with four, good tackling, and keep the big plays to a minimum. Hill and Waddle will make plays here and there because of their speed and quickness. The ***Pats actually did a good job of giving them some yards, but not the big plays (with the exception of the one TD catch by Waddle that was pretty much all YAC).