OldTimer1960

Does anyone know if Lonnie Johnson Jr is the son of former Bills TE Lonnie Johnson?

I'm not seeing two-down or rotational player. I think he is a guy that could be a disruptive 3 down player who could play inside or outside (preferably inside)

Agreed. I was just reacting to how well Foles was playing on the road against a favored team. He certainly was exceeding my expectations.

In the two seasons that followed that 27-2 TD to INT season, he had a 20-20 TD to INT ratio. Which is he, or is he somewhere in between?

I still can’t see Foles as a long-term top-end starting QB, yet he seems to be reproducing last year now. What magic does he have?

Well thought out. Yet you are suggesting throwing a lot of money around on FAs, none of whom look to be difference makers. I’m not saying that the FAs you suggest are bad players, but over paying for middling players is how to end up back in cap problems after digging out.

I might be willing to trade up to a 5th round pick for a great OL coach. Thoughts?

Was it only the offensive schemes or could it have been equally the significant added talent around him and him having learned from his rookie year? I think it all matters, including the scheme, the talent and the experience that Goff has gained. Having Todd Gurley in the backfield certainly helps a lot as well as the receivers he is working with.

We aren’t really disagreeing, but I don’t think that there should be hard rules- never draft position X high. I think you have to look at who is available at all positions in the top 10 in any draft and compare them on their merits, your needs, relative value of positions, depth in the draft at positions, etc. I’m not arguing that all positions are equally important, but for sure OLT is still a premium position (IMHO).

It is all a system of interdependent parts. By that I don’t mean “scheme” necessarily. A good OL gives receivers a bit more time to get open and the QB enough room and time to read the defense and use proper mechanics when throwing. A good OL also can allow for run plays to put you in good down and distance situations. How many offensive drives were the Bills in 2nd and 8+ yards? You are way behind the 8 ball in those situations. Good receivers help help the OL and QB look good by getting open quickly. This puts less pressure on the OL and allows the QB to make quick decisions and throw the ball before pressure gets near him. Good receivers allow more easy routine plays by getting separation, making the routine catches and, occasionally making the great catch. Further, a good OL and good receivers present a threat to the defense that makes getting the run game going much easier. The 2018 Bills offense was frequently in bad down and distance situations, had receivers who could not get open regularly and often didn’t make the routine catches, let alone the occasional special play. The OL and receivers are both important - so is the run game. Watching the Patriots, it is rarely that they dominate because they have such superior talent on the OL, in the receiving group or at RB - it is their balance and ability to be good, not necessarily great, at everything that constantly keeps defenses off balance.

I understand your point and agree, but second round picks are still high picks.

He certainly looks like a NFL OT. He is huge and looks to be pretty athletic for his size.

Lamar Jackson has been brutal today, but still too early to give up on him completely. Many on this board are waaaay too quick to trash young players. To be clear, I was not one convinced that he could succeed in the NFL, and I don’t think he is the answer at QB for Baltimore, but I don’t think he should be run out of town this early. I *would* consider drafting another QB or signing a FA.

I agree, but I can’t see the logic in using a top 10 pick on a CB when the Bills already have Tre White. I know White has two? years left on his rookie deal and they could get another top CB on a rookie deal for 4 years, but you know that they could not keep both long-term. The Bills have done this previously when they had Antoine Winfield and then drafted Nate Clements. For sure Clements was good, but ultimately they let Winfield go to FA and he played very well for several more years and then the Bills lost Clements in FA as well. I don’t want them to reach, but there are only a few premium positions that a team can budget for - QB, DE, LT, maybe 1 WR, a lockdown CB. I am not saying that other positions are not important, but ideally find a top prospect at a position that, if he pans out, you can justify paying after his rookie deal.

I don’t understand the DK Metcalf love. I know he is big and fast for his size, but he has little college production and what production he had was mostly against poor competition. He was not even the first receiving option on his own team - AJ Brown was - not to mention there is an injury issue also with Metcalf (neck) I just can’t see WR being in play at pick 9 with this class. i also can’t see OL being a possibility either unless Jonah Williams is there - and even then seems pretty high for a guy that more than a few thinks would be a Guard in the NFL. At this time, it sure looks like defense is probably the pick barring a trade down.

Looks like the Bills are picking 10th. Likely out of range for Bosa, Quinnen Williams, Ed Oliver and possibly Jonah Williams. Who looks good after that? Will Clelin Ferrell be available? - I would guess not as pass rushers go early. Would Bills take a chance on Dexter Lawerence after he was found to have banned substances (‘were they steroids?) Is Rashan Gary worth a high pick and where do you play him? So far, it doesn’t seem that a WR will be regarded highly enough to take there, but that could change as the offseason unfolds.

NFL Network is showing that the Bills have pick 10 with Denver at 9.

So far based only on what I have read about the prospects, it seems that there is a very good chance that a DT will be BPA when Bills pick. I have seen conflicting reports on DE Clelin Ferrell as a top pass rusher and Josh Allen (KY) is described as more LB than DE, so while I agree that pass rusher is a very important position and it could use an upgrade, I don’t know that there is a really good DE prospect after Bosa. For sure, player ratings can change a fair bit before the draft, but I haven’t seen a highly rated OT other than Williams from ’Bama, but several suggest that he will have to move to OG in the NFL. While WR is a major need, so far I don’t see a prospect there worth picking over one of the several highly regarded DTs.

Couple of nice throws at least. Now the sh*t run D to get gashed again

Can anyone play f-ing defense on this team? If not for 3 turnovers, Pats would have 35 already.

Terrible damn run defense

I know that the cupboard is completely bare on offense, but this team needs a lot of help on defense, too.

Run for the bus. This team is an absolute mess.

You and me as well.

His experience was on defense and he chose to trade down and acquire more picks as many here always want -AND- he picked a cornerstone player in Tre White. Have some patience, they are headed in the right direction.