NoSaint

Oh man, now stumbled into thoughts of WRs being better than posters were giving credit for. It’s all good. We all flub takes but maybe chill on the “anyone paying attention knew we wouldn’t be good” angle here?

I recall you being pretty positive, and at times insultingly so.... actually clicking in your history just found you predicting 10-6 and an improvement from last year going into camp which is a stark difference from this Unless you are including yourself in that group

Remind me when you got on the “obviously intended to tank” train?

I hadn’t considered that. Consider my glass half full again!

What percentage of Brees or Brady’s come from wr mistakes? Or are we pretending that peterman is the only that deals with that?

What’s our pace for td-int ratio now? It’s among the worst ever before getting worse today

Hard to fault a dude for making business decisions when the teams put him in this spot

Thats what gets me. As short as we’ve been with guys we go out and get a guy with known motivational issues? For a season many here call intentionally terrible? Why?

What odds are you giving on a bet here?

But the flip side is we are starting the guy coaches thought won the qb competition (and by wide enough margin to trade McCarron).... traded for benjamin this isnt totally out of their control

This.

About $3.50

Otherwise we’d be money

Itll be tough waiting on free agency and seeing how they will spend the money. I don’t think they have earned us assuming the best but that doesn’t mean it’ll go bad either. You should actually create a poll for this if you want to poll people. in this league I think you can get a much higher quality DC than OC. To get an innovative offensive mind he needs to be head coach in many cases (especially if wanting to keep him around). You can snag an excellent defensive guy at the coordinator level as defense isn’t as valued. Seems natural to me that in this leagues current state you’d only hire a defensive head coach if he were head and shoulders above the rest AND came with an excellent built in offensive partner

Well, she’s both played on an amateur level and coached college. You just happened to remember that picture and it’s location? Im not being snarky, I just find that shockingly strange.

Honestly, it’s one of the few things lately that made me feel somewhat hopeful. ive been at odds with some of beanes process. I feel like his timing and sequencing of moves, prioritization etc.... has been suspect. It’s silly but all the way back to firing the full staff and then rehiring a bunch instead of holding on to some.... to see him acknowledge imperfection is a bit heartening that he may be learning. Im not sure I love that Anderson’s the guy but at least he gets that having access to only one qb that knows the system behind your starter is no good. Basic. But better than not getting it still.

I think the distraction angle is overrated. I think two years since practicing is underdiscussed though

If nothing else, can we start scouting it better? Those two dudes are taking up like 12m this year and 2 draft picks probably Whaley’s fault

As Augie notes, talent matters. but you can coach skills like crisp route running, throwing with anticipation, making good reads, and even have a coach with great play design and sequencing. But if its me throwing to augie... well... I guess honestly..... it’s probably not THAT much worse than peterman to benjamin.

So when we fired the roughly .500 coach for underachieving with the roster, it was a situation where we didn’t think a new coach could step up and improve the record with better gameday management, slight fine tuning and chasing a qb? or did we think the roster was an absolute train wreck and decide to let the guy that assembled it take another round of free agency and the draft just for the heck of it? i was very much under the impression in January 2017 that this was a re-load and watch improved coaching make the major difference, while putting a top shelf qb option in the system.... and not a burn it all to the ground situation.

Well, the CBA and such grant players much more in the workplace than you and I normally get....

If nothing else- it’s interesting.

There are, in overly broad terms, 3 types of receivers. ones that elevate their unit, ones that are effective in a good unit, and ones that don’t really belong. He’s a perfectly fine 2, 3, 4 type player but not a game changer. He belongs though.

Can you update the first post with cliff notes on the major trades? And yet we ditched a ton of young talent and are older through the process

Right? Especially since we traded our 3 so it’s not like he’s just on the market like most teams that cut 3 and roll with just two QBs then roll in a 3 way qb competition not allowing much in the way of having a 4th guy get any reps/attention its basic planning to have soooomeone that knows the play book in case of injury if only keeping 2 active.